Simple WCG PPD Estimator

[Ion] · Dec 21, 2009, 04:56 PM

I just wrote a simple program that will estimate your WCG PPD for the following CPUs:
Core 2 Duo (Conroe)
Core 2 Quad (Kentsfield)
Core 2 Duo (Wolfdale)
Core 2 Quad (Yorkfield)
Core i3/Core i5 (Clarkdale)
Core i5 (Lynnfield)
Core i7 (quad-core)
Core i7 (hex-core)
Athlon 64X2/Athlon X2
Phenom I X3
Phenom I X4
Athlon II X2
Athlon II X3
Athlon II X4
Phenom II X2
Phenom II X3
Phenom II X4
Phenom II X6
*New with V. 0.5.9b: PPD Estimates for Core i3/i5, Athlon II and Phenom II X6

Currently there is no support for Core i5/Core i7 and older Athlon 64/Athlon 64x2 CPUs, if I can get PPD number for those CPUs I will include an estimator for them. PPD estimates for the Phenom I CPUs are probably not nearly as accurate as those of the other CPUs, I had no actual number to base them off of so I just looked at other benchmarks comparing Phenom I and Core 2. PPD estimations are given as credits reported by the WCG website and as points reported by BOINC, BOINCstats, and Free-DC

Disclaimer: All estimates given are estimates, actual results will be different. PPD will vary by as much as 50% between two consecutive days due to the nature of the WCG validation process.

I wrote this program in C++ on Windows 7 x64, but I have also tested it on Windows 7 x32 and Windows XP x32, and encountered no errors. If you do have issues, please tell me so I can resolve them. Source code may be available at some point in the future.

EDIT: I've updated the program and it now runs on systems without VS2008/VS2010, if the first version didn't work please try this version.

EDIT 10/25/10: Two new versions are out with support for new CPUs. I'm sorry it's taken so long, but Athlon II, Phenom II X6, and the Core i3/Core i5 CPUs are now supported.

'WCG PPD Estimator.exe' is my text-only version, 'Estimator_GUI.exe' is FordGT90Concept's GUI version.

Linux support is coming at some point, but no ETA

EDIT AGAIN! (14 June 13)
I'm collecting more data and will be releasing a version with support for SB/IVB & AMD FX before too long! Haswell too, if I can get the numbers for it

stanhemi · Dec 21, 2009, 05:02 PM

windows 7 x64

Solaris17 · Dec 21, 2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanhemi

windows 7 x64

http://img.techpowerup.org/091221/Capturerrr.jpg

got same error on my laptop. vista X32

BraveSoul · Dec 21, 2009, 05:11 PM

windows 7 64
same error ,, this is good idea becoming real

Kreij · Dec 21, 2009, 05:25 PM

Those getting the error need this

[Ion] · Dec 21, 2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreij

Those getting the error need this

Thanks, I've added that to the OP

BraveSoul · Dec 21, 2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreij

Those getting the error need this

im assuming restart is required....still no go

stanhemi · Dec 21, 2009, 05:42 PM

i install Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x86) restart my pc and still the same error

Kreij · Dec 21, 2009, 07:08 PM

Hmmm ... Try this one. It's SP1 of the redistrabutable.

Strange, even without SP1 it should have stopped the s-b-s errors.

stanhemi · Dec 21, 2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreij

Hmmm ... Try this one. It's SP1 of the redistrabutable.

Strange, even without SP1 it should have stopped the s-b-s errors.

no still don't work

(and don't work on my other pc vista 32bit and xp 32bit)

A Cheese Danish · Dec 21, 2009, 08:10 PM

It works with my laptop.
I also have VS 08 installed.

Kreij · Dec 21, 2009, 08:18 PM

It works here on my XP (32 bit), but I have VS 2008 installed also.
I believe an assembly is missing on the machines that are getting the errors, but the 2008 redist should have fixed that.

Can't test it at home either as I have VS 2008 installed there too.

@ION : I you can't figure it out post the source and I'll take a look at it. No guarantees however.

[Ion] · Dec 21, 2009, 08:36 PM

OK, I have VS 2008 on all of the three computers I tried it on, so I didn't think to try it on one without VS 2008.

@Kreij: YGPM regarding source code
My dad's a programmer, I'll get him to look at it if Kreij can't help

Kreij · Dec 21, 2009, 10:46 PM

Ion, try this.

Go into your project->properties.
Under manifest Tool, go to Input and Output
Set Embed Manifest to No.
Recompile and put executable here again for them to try.

Mindweaver · Dec 22, 2009, 01:52 AM

Great idea ION!

I'm dl'n it now, and will install it on my laptop with "Win 7 x32".

Mindweaver · Dec 22, 2009, 02:03 AM

Same error on "Win 7 x32".

Kreij · Dec 22, 2009, 02:18 AM

From what I can tell, VS is embedding an assembly declaration in the manifest that's wrong.
I am not sure if stopping the embedded manifest will work or if it will throw another errror.
You guys will have to help on this one as ION and I have VS on all our machines (which don't throw the error).

Bear with us, between ION, his dad and me we should be able to figure it out.
It's almost always something simple. Finding the problem, however, is not always so simple. DOH !!!

[Ion] · Dec 22, 2009, 02:24 AM

Kreij, I just tried what you said, and it gave the same error on a spare WinXP system (parents). Any other ideas? (If not, I'll ask my dad tomorrow)

Mindweaver · Dec 22, 2009, 02:26 AM

I'll try on my main rig later. I have VS 2008 on it. I'll post back later.

[Ion] · Dec 22, 2009, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindweaver

I'll try on my main rig later. I have VS 2008 on it. I'll post back later.

Thanks!

It seems to run fine on all systems with VS2008, but it fails on all of the others

Mindweaver · Dec 22, 2009, 02:34 AM

No problem bro! I'm working on a few crystal reports right now.. but give me about an hour and i'll test it out and post back.

Kreij · Dec 22, 2009, 02:42 AM

Boy ... it seems to be a DLL or version of a DLL that VS loads, but a normal install does not.

There is a tool that ships with Vista called sxstrace.exe (command line) that helps with these problems. Look here

@MindWeaver : What version of CR are you writing in? Have to do them all of the time myself. lol
Currently writing another C# app while trying to help here.

Mindweaver · Dec 22, 2009, 02:55 AM

I'm writing them for MAS 500 7.05, and for them to be compatible i'm using cr 10. I have cr 8,9,10 and 11. I'm thinking about getting 2008, but later down the road.

Edit: This year hasn't been that great.. So, they have cut my budget big time!...

Kreij · Dec 22, 2009, 03:04 AM

@Mindweaver : You have a budget? Lucky dog. I'm using 9 & 11 at the moment for our ERP reports.

@ ION : We aren't hijacking your thread, honest !! Just trying to stay awake by doing 10 things at once.
That being said, I am calling it a night. Spent all day coding and troubleshooting network and system problems that were mostly caused between the chair and keyboard if you know what I mean.

I'll be back about 7AM CST. Have a good evening all.

Mindweaver · Dec 22, 2009, 03:41 AM

Yepper, works fine on my main rig with vs 2008. I did notice one thing. It errors out if you answer your MHz with XXXX.X but works fine with XXXX. So, no decimals for anyone wanting to squeeze out everything...lol

Looks good ION! No green text?...

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Dec 21, 2009, 08:18 PM	#12
Kreij Hardcore Monkey Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA) Posts: 12,254 (5.27/day) Thanks: 591 Thanked 5,510 Times in 2,948 Posts System Specs	It works here on my XP (32 bit), but I have VS 2008 installed also. I believe an assembly is missing on the machines that are getting the errors, but the 2008 redist should have fixed that. Can't test it at home either as I have VS 2008 installed there too. @ION : I you can't figure it out post the source and I'll take a look at it. No guarantees however. __________________ Cloud (noun, singular): A dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure, with a user at one end and their data at the other. Get more tech news on a wide variety of topics at NextPowerUp

Dec 21, 2009, 08:36 PM	#13
[Ion] WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 10,790 (7.86/day) Thanks: 8,305 Thanked 9,484 Times in 4,320 Posts System Specs	OK, I have VS 2008 on all of the three computers I tried it on, so I didn't think to try it on one without VS 2008. @Kreij: YGPM regarding source code My dad's a programmer, I'll get him to look at it if Kreij can't help __________________ Ion's WCG Essentials Thread Crunching (64 Threads + 896 CUDA Cores + 6272 Shaders): i3-2100@ 3.1 + HD7850 -- Atom D510 @ 1.66 -- C2D-M T9600 @ 2.8 -- i7-3612QM @ 2.8 -- i7-860 @ 2.9 + HD7950 -- i7-2700k @ 4.4 + 2xGTX470 -- PentDC-M T4200 @ 2.0 -- i7-920 @ 3.83 + 3xHD7770 -- DP Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 + HD7930 -- E1600 @ 2.4 Last edited by [Ion]; Dec 21, 2009 at 08:40 PM. Reason: Spelling

Dec 21, 2009, 10:46 PM	#14
Kreij Hardcore Monkey Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA) Posts: 12,254 (5.27/day) Thanks: 591 Thanked 5,510 Times in 2,948 Posts System Specs	Ion, try this. Go into your project->properties. Under manifest Tool, go to Input and Output Set Embed Manifest to No. Recompile and put executable here again for them to try. __________________ Cloud (noun, singular): A dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure, with a user at one end and their data at the other. Get more tech news on a wide variety of topics at NextPowerUp

Dec 22, 2009, 01:52 AM	#15
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,887 (2.55/day) Thanks: 4,379 Thanked 2,365 Times in 1,183 Posts System Specs	Great idea ION! I'm dl'n it now, and will install it on my laptop with "Win 7 x32". __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523 Last edited by Mindweaver; Dec 22, 2009 at 02:00 AM.

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Dec 22, 2009, 02:03 AM	#16
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,887 (2.55/day) Thanks: 4,379 Thanked 2,365 Times in 1,183 Posts System Specs	Same error on "Win 7 x32". __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

Dec 22, 2009, 02:18 AM	#17
Kreij Hardcore Monkey Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA) Posts: 12,254 (5.27/day) Thanks: 591 Thanked 5,510 Times in 2,948 Posts System Specs	From what I can tell, VS is embedding an assembly declaration in the manifest that's wrong. I am not sure if stopping the embedded manifest will work or if it will throw another errror. You guys will have to help on this one as ION and I have VS on all our machines (which don't throw the error). Bear with us, between ION, his dad and me we should be able to figure it out. It's almost always something simple. Finding the problem, however, is not always so simple. DOH !!! __________________ Cloud (noun, singular): A dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure, with a user at one end and their data at the other. Get more tech news on a wide variety of topics at NextPowerUp

Dec 22, 2009, 02:24 AM	#18
[Ion] WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 10,790 (7.86/day) Thanks: 8,305 Thanked 9,484 Times in 4,320 Posts System Specs	Kreij, I just tried what you said, and it gave the same error on a spare WinXP system (parents). Any other ideas? (If not, I'll ask my dad tomorrow) __________________ Ion's WCG Essentials Thread Crunching (64 Threads + 896 CUDA Cores + 6272 Shaders): i3-2100@ 3.1 + HD7850 -- Atom D510 @ 1.66 -- C2D-M T9600 @ 2.8 -- i7-3612QM @ 2.8 -- i7-860 @ 2.9 + HD7950 -- i7-2700k @ 4.4 + 2xGTX470 -- PentDC-M T4200 @ 2.0 -- i7-920 @ 3.83 + 3xHD7770 -- DP Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 + HD7930 -- E1600 @ 2.4

Dec 22, 2009, 02:26 AM	#19
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,887 (2.55/day) Thanks: 4,379 Thanked 2,365 Times in 1,183 Posts System Specs	I'll try on my main rig later. I have VS 2008 on it. I'll post back later. __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

Dec 22, 2009, 02:34 AM	#21
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,887 (2.55/day) Thanks: 4,379 Thanked 2,365 Times in 1,183 Posts System Specs	No problem bro! I'm working on a few crystal reports right now.. but give me about an hour and i'll test it out and post back. __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

Dec 22, 2009, 02:42 AM	#22
Kreij Hardcore Monkey Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA) Posts: 12,254 (5.27/day) Thanks: 591 Thanked 5,510 Times in 2,948 Posts System Specs	Boy ... it seems to be a DLL or version of a DLL that VS loads, but a normal install does not. There is a tool that ships with Vista called sxstrace.exe (command line) that helps with these problems. Look here @MindWeaver : What version of CR are you writing in? Have to do them all of the time myself. lol Currently writing another C# app while trying to help here. __________________ Cloud (noun, singular): A dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure, with a user at one end and their data at the other. Get more tech news on a wide variety of topics at NextPowerUp

Dec 22, 2009, 02:55 AM	#23
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,887 (2.55/day) Thanks: 4,379 Thanked 2,365 Times in 1,183 Posts System Specs	I'm writing them for MAS 500 7.05, and for them to be compatible i'm using cr 10. I have cr 8,9,10 and 11. I'm thinking about getting 2008, but later down the road. Edit: This year hasn't been that great.. So, they have cut my budget big time!... __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

Dec 22, 2009, 03:04 AM	#24
Kreij Hardcore Monkey Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA) Posts: 12,254 (5.27/day) Thanks: 591 Thanked 5,510 Times in 2,948 Posts System Specs	@Mindweaver : You have a budget? Lucky dog. I'm using 9 & 11 at the moment for our ERP reports. @ ION : We aren't hijacking your thread, honest !! Just trying to stay awake by doing 10 things at once. That being said, I am calling it a night. Spent all day coding and troubleshooting network and system problems that were mostly caused between the chair and keyboard if you know what I mean. I'll be back about 7AM CST. Have a good evening all. __________________ Cloud (noun, singular): A dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure, with a user at one end and their data at the other. Get more tech news on a wide variety of topics at NextPowerUp

Dec 22, 2009, 03:41 AM	#25
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,887 (2.55/day) Thanks: 4,379 Thanked 2,365 Times in 1,183 Posts System Specs	Yepper, works fine on my main rig with vs 2008. I did notice one thing. It errors out if you answer your MHz with XXXX.X but works fine with XXXX. So, no decimals for anyone wanting to squeeze out everything...lol Looks good ION! No green text?... __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

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