AMD Unveils World’s First DirectX 11 Compliant Mobile Graphics

[btarunr]

AMD today introduced its lineup of next-generation DirectX 11-capable ATI Mobility Radeon Premium graphics, including ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 graphics, the highest performance graphics for notebooks in the world.1 The entire family of DirectX 11-capable graphics consists of ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5700, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5600 and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 series graphics. This top-to-bottom family of Direct 11-capable notebook graphics introduces compelling new features including ATI Eyefinity multi-display technology, bringing powerful visual gaming and computing innovation to the notebook PC. Notebooks featuring the new graphics technology are previewed at the 2010 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in the VISION Experience Center, located in the Grand Lobby (GL-8 and GL-10) of the Las Vegas Convention Center.

“Six months ago AMD claimed the title of undisputed technology leader in desktop graphics, and now we also offer powerful mobile graphics processors for notebooks to go with our market leadership in that segment,” said Rick Bergman, senior vice president and general manager, Products Group, AMD. “Once again, AMD changes the game both in terms of performance and experience. AMD innovations now give notebook users full DirectX 11 support, eye-opening ATI Eyefinity technology, superb HD multimedia capabilities, and ATI Stream technology designed to help optimize Windows 7 notebook performance.”



The next-generation family of DirectX 11-capable ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series graphics represents a powerful upgrade for OEMs to existing and upcoming 2009 AMD Mainstream and 2nd Generation Ultrathin notebook platforms, as well as next-generation “Danube” mainstream and “Nile” ultrathin notebook platforms scheduled to launch in the first half of 2010. These graphics innovations are designed to let you:

Accelerate your mobile performance:

• The DirectX 11-capable ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series graphics lineup is the first and only notebook graphics technology to support DirectCompute 11, allowing users to take full advantage of Windows 7, the first compute-capable operating system.
• Enjoy new features, functionality and improved performance in top media, entertainment and productivity applications made possible by ATI Stream technology.
• ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 series (and higher) graphics fully support both DirectX 11 and OpenCL, enabling broad application acceleration support today and tomorrow.

Maximize your mobile lifestyle

• ATI Eyefinity multi-display technology enables super high resolution panoramic computing for notebooks, allowing mobile users to seamlessly harness up to six monitors for improved gaming, productivity, and entertainment.
• Enjoy enhanced multimedia capabilities through Unified Video Decoder 2 technology, for upscaling beyond 1080p and dual 1080p decoding of Blu-ray video and HD streams.
• Benefit from state-of-the-art home theatre entertainment technologies including HDMI 1.3a Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, and advanced display quality from HDMI 1.3a Deep Color & x.v.Color for a theater-class entertainment experience.

Dominate your games with DirectX 11:

• Enjoy intense gaming performance, unrivalled visual quality, and an overall superior HD gaming experience on HD-capable monitors with DirectX 11 (as compared to DirectX 10.1).
• Realize the ultimate in game compatibility, as the DirectX 11 API was developed on AMD graphics hardware and all initial DirectX 11 games were developed or continue to be developed on AMD’s DirectX 11-capable hardware.
• More than 20 DirectX 11 games are currently in development, with gamers already enjoying the incredible DirectX 11 experience offered by titles such as EA Phenomic’s BattleForge, GSC Gameworld’s S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat, and Codemasters’ Colin McRae: DiRT 2.
• The next-generation DirectX 11-capable family of ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series graphics is two generations ahead of DirectX 10.0 support found in competing mobile graphics solutions.

Exceptional Power Efficiency:

• Benefit from four times the performance-per-watt efficiency over the last two generations of ATI Mobility Radeon Premium graphics thanks to improved processor design and a new 40nm process
• Experience dramatically lower idle power, saving battery power when the graphics processor isn’t needed
• Next-generation Vari-Bright technology used for optimizing notebook display brightness delivers up to 50 percent power savings over the previous generation’s software based approach
• Platform independent graphics switching technology helps to save power while offering efficient switching options
• GDDR5 Advanced Memory Support delivers double the memory bandwidth over previous generation AMD discrete graphics

Industry Quotes:
“ASUS has worked closely with AMD for years to ensure that we’re collaborating to bring the newest and most compelling notebook technologies to our customers first, and with the DirectX 11-capable family of ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series graphics and the ASUS G73 and new N series of notebooks, we’re continuing that leadership,” said P.C. Wang, Corporate Vice President & General Manager, Notebook Business Unit, System Business Group, ASUS.

“Today’s consumers demand more of their notebooks, and to meet those changing needs, MSI continually strives to offer a wide variety of notebooks infused with leading technologies,” said Sam Chern, Notebook Marketing Director, MSI. “Next-generation ATI Mobility Radeon Premium graphics are a perfect solution, introducing industry first features such as DirectX 11 gaming support that help us better address the full range of customers at affordable prices.”

Notebooks with DirectX 11-capable ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series graphics are scheduled to be available in the first half of 2010.

Detailed specifications can be found here.

[btarunr]

You may want to check out specs of each GPU in the link above. Mobility HD 5800 series chips have 800 SPs, Mobility HD 5700 and Mobility HD 5600 have 400, Mobility HD 5400 have 80...

AMD did to Mobility HD 5000 what NVIDIA did to GeForce M GTX 200 series.

[Mussels]

Unfortunately i havent memorised the 5K cards specs yet.

Radeon 5870 desktop:
* 1600 Stream Processing Units
* 80 Texture Units
* 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 32 Color ROP Units



5870 Mobility:

* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units


Oh dear god... they cut it in half! shame!

[El_Mayo]

Originally Posted by Mussels

Unfortunately i havent memorised the 5K cards specs yet.

Radeon 5870 desktop:
* 1600 Stream Processing Units
* 80 Texture Units
* 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 32 Color ROP Units



5870 Mobility:

* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units


Oh dear god... they cut it in half! shame!

so it should be as good as one of the 5770s?

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by El_Mayo

so it should be as good as one of the 5770s?

* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units



it *is* a 5770 :S







PCI-E 2.1?

[El_Mayo]

Originally Posted by Mussels

* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units



it *is* a 5770 :S

i wasn't aware of the 5770 specification

[happita]

Well, it is certainly a letdown, but it kinda makes sense.

Notebook cooling is nowhere near efficient as desktops are. But a 5770 for a notebook, that sounds pretty sweet to me.

[Caonima]

I agree with 2nd floor,a too castrated edition unlike Mobility Radeon HD 4000 series,disappointing.

[Caonima]

Even worse than desktop HD 5770,so dismal.

[Mussels]

a 5770 is enough balls for a laptop - if only they'd stuck with that name

[CharlO]

Originally Posted by btarunr

You may want to check out specs of each GPU in the link above. Mobility HD 5800 series chips have 800 SPs, Mobility HD 5700 and Mobility HD 5600 have 400, Mobility HD 5400 have 80...

AMD did to Mobility HD 5000 what NVIDIA did to GeForce M GTX 200 series.

You gotta be kidding; check this out!

Raedon Mobility HD 5870;

Speeds & Feeds
Engine clock speed: 700 MHz
Processing power (single precision): 1.12 TeraFLOPS
Polygon throughput: 700M polygons/sec
Data fetch rate (32-bit): 112 billion fetches/sec
Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 28 Gigatexels/sec
Pixel fill rate: 11.2 Gigapixels/sec
Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 44.8 Gigasamples/sec
Memory clock speed: 1.0 GHz
Memory data rate: 4.0 Gbps
Memory bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
TDP: 50 Watts

That on a laptop, my desktop is crying.

[robal]

Originally Posted by btarunr

You may want to check out specs of each GPU in the link above. Mobility HD 5800 series chips have 800 SPs, Mobility HD 5700 and Mobility HD 5600 have 400, Mobility HD 5400 have 80...

AMD did to Mobility HD 5000 what NVIDIA did to GeForce M GTX 200 series.

Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by robal

Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.

you obviously havent been paying much attention. Last generation, ATI did exactly that.


http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...fications.aspx

http://www.amd.com/us/products/noteb...870-specs.aspx

[KainXS]

well . . . . amd has pulled an nvidia on us, the future of mobility dosen't look too good now.

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by robal

Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.

No, I did, because Mobility HD 4870 had nearly the same specs as the desktop part, and the AMD RV770 (HD 4870) has nearly the same thermal characteristics as the AMD Cypress (desktop HD 5870). No laptops melted.

[Imsochobo]

Originally Posted by robal

Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.

Ever tried W90VP ?

No.

4870 Crossfire!

Not same specs as desktop(lower clock)

But the point is:
Nvidia started doing rebrand (Lets for god sake it doesnt get worse than this with ati)
They are actually using 5770 in laptops and not 4870.
GTX260M = 9800GT for those who still doesnt know.

Anyways, dont like this, but i think nvidia kinda pushed it on them.
Still easy for us who know it, since every model is one 5X70 (X) under the desktop counterpart.
but still not right...

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Imsochobo

Ever tried W90VP ?

No.

4870 Crossfire!

Not same specs as desktop(lower clock)

But the point is:
Nvidia started doing rebrand (Lets for god sake it doesnt get worse than this with ati)
They are actually using 5770 in laptops and not 4870.
GTX260M = 9800GT for those who still doesnt know.

Anyways, dont like this, but i think nvidia kinda pushed it on them.
Still easy for us who know it, since every model is one 5X70 (X) under the desktop counterpart.
but still not right...

nvidia started rebranding a long time ago. Geforce 4MX line? yeah, geforce 2 rebadge.


Same card @ lower clocks was expected and accepted in laptop cards, at least.

Calling two cards the same name, when one is literally half the other is completely wrong. (Nvidia does worse, but this is still unacceptable)

[OneCool]

Even if they did cut it back so what.It will still be a monster in a laptop.

Id trade my HD4570 for a crippled HD5870 any day

[eidairaman1]

Only reason these cards are not matching their desktop counterparts is because of the thermal constraints found in a laptop.

You would have to run a box fan or a blow drier fan underneath just to expel the heat and that would make your balls sweat more.

The last time a Desktop and laptop video card matched as of Specs other than clock speed was the Radeon 9800 and M18 (MR9800) from 2002-2004. The M18 was found in the Dell Inspiron 9100/XPS Gen 1, which in fact was a Desktop Replacement/Hefty Laptop (Matched the weight of a Toughbook without the ruggedization). I found out the M18 was based on a newer process than the Desktop Part which was actually the AGP Radeon x800 series (R420). At that time it was possible to do that with video cards being released at a pace that was somewhat slow. Also the only way to obtain maximum performance is to have the devices hooked up to a power source other than a battery.

Since I knew about the M18 being based upon the R420 I attempted a Mod Bios flash to see if I could open more pixel pipelines- which to amazement it failed resulting in replacing the video card (500 USD at the time- OUCH!).

[CharlO]

Originally Posted by Imsochobo

GTX260M = 9800GT for those who still doesnt know.

9800GT = 8800 GT Should't have bought that

Ati is the way to go, at least now I know.

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Only reason these cards are not matching their desktop counterparts is because of the thermal constraints found in a laptop.

Orly? Where were these constraints with Mobility HD 4870? Like I said, RV770 has nearly the same thermals as Cypress, so that argument doesn't count.

[Fourstaff]

Why cant they name the current 5800M into 5700M instead to avoid confusion (and fooling the consumers)? Now everyone is pulling a Nvidia! or they are trying to release a 5900M which is equal to 5800 and 6000M which is actually 5900?

[W1zzard]

Originally Posted by btarunr

Orly? Where were these constraints with Mobility HD 4870? Like I said, RV770 has nearly the same thermals as Cypress, so that argument doesn't count.

thats exactly what i'm gonna ask amd later

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Why cant they name the current 5800M into 5700M instead to avoid confusion (and fooling the consumers)? Now everyone is pulling a Nvidia! or they are trying to release a 5900M which is equal to 5800 and 6000M which is actually 5900?

I think its the hype - when average consumers look on a Alienware website (or any other OEMs that makes gaming laptops) & they see one with a 5870mobility - they will jump hoops thinking its almost as powerful as the desktop 5870 but in which case its only half the card the real 5870 is....

pittyful really. but i agree - they give it the name of a top class performing card only to water it down by quite a bit.

lackluster. Im sure it will run games decent enough though but its not the ultimate performance one would think if he just just looking at it from a retailers website

[cuphe]

so is the mobile 5870 only slightly better than the 4870M? Because it's a 5770 and 5770 is about the 4870 in performance.