AMD Cedar Reference Design Board Pictured

btarunr · Jan 13, 2010, 05:26 PM

AMD's entry-level graphics processor in its DirectX 11 compliant generation, the Radeon HD 5000 series is codenamed "Cedar". This GPU is expected to be half as powerful as the "Redwood" GPU, with an expected 200 stream processors, 64-bit GDDR5/GDDR3 memory interface, and DirectX 11 compliance. It will make for two initial product SKUs: the Radeon HD 5400 series (probably Cedar with GDDR3 memory), and Radeon HD 5500 series (probably Cedar with GDDR5 memory). There are three models slated for release later this month: Radeon HD 5450, Radeon HD 5550, and Radeon HD 5570.

A low-profile reference design engineering sample's picture made it to our friends at Arab Hardware. The picture reveals a low-profile design which is slightly longer than the PCI-Express interface itself, keeps the black PCB color theme for the HD 5000 series going, and uses a tiny GPU cooler. DVI-D and DisplayPort connectors are located on the card, while a full-height bracket can expand the connectivity with a D-Sub connector. Products based on the Cedar GPU are expected to be positioned well within the $100 mark, and aimed at media-centric home users and full-time HTPCs.

Source: Arab Hardware Forums

DanTheBanjoman · Jan 13, 2010, 05:29 PM

Are they produced in Cedar Mill?

El_Mayo · Jan 13, 2010, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Are they produced in Cedar Mill?

Spamming the forum you moderate/administrate?

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jan 13, 2010, 05:34 PM

y so srs may0?

DanTheBanjoman · Jan 13, 2010, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Mayo

Spamming the forum you moderate/administrate?

How am I spamming? Besides, report the post if you disagree.

I do find it silly that AMD calls a chip Cedar while Intel has Cedar Mill.

btarunr · Jan 13, 2010, 05:38 PM

Intel names its chips after American villages, while AMD's Evergreen chips are named after trees?

Cedar, Cypress, Redwood, Juniper...they're all trees, which are "evergreen" in nature.

DaC · Jan 13, 2010, 05:39 PM

I don't know about names, but 200sp gddr5 64 bits if under $50.00 seems to kill everything out there in the wild....

El_Mayo · Jan 13, 2010, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

How am I spamming? Besides, report the post if you disagree.

I do find it silly that AMD calls a chip Cedar while Intel has Cedar Mill.

lmao i was joking

how much will these 5400 and 5300 series cost?

Semi-Lobster · Jan 13, 2010, 06:06 PM

What neat little card, wonder what the specs are for it and if it will be hybrid-crossfireable in the future

locoty · Jan 13, 2010, 06:11 PM

i'm sure it will be 50-70 dollars

if this powerful enough low end gpu trend continue, next year we we will have a mobo with a nice integrated video card powerful enough to play crysis

theorw · Jan 13, 2010, 06:14 PM

I love how well designed the voltage regualtor area is designed in EVERY 5xxx card.Even here in lower end u can find quality mosfets and coils AND SOLID STATE CAPS ONLY !GOOD JOB ATI!

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jan 13, 2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theorw

I love how well designed the voltage regualtor area is designed in EVERY 5xxx card.Even here in lower end u can find quality mosfets and coils AND SOLID STATE CAPS ONLY !GOOD JOB ATI!

until the custom boards ....

tonyd223 · Jan 13, 2010, 06:35 PM

bought a 4550 about a month ago for the media pc - love these low powered cards - so cheap, so useful for outputting HDMI accelerated video...

theorw · Jan 13, 2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

until the custom boards ....

Yeah u are right but this wasnt encountered in the previous generations lower end cards...
U COULD FIND A WHOLE MEM (or even GPU) PHASE ON ELECTROLYTIC CAPS!!!!!!!!!
8600GT had electrolytic!8400...and of course 43xx etc.

lemonadesoda · Jan 13, 2010, 07:27 PM

Active cooling! for such a low end device. Unforgiveable. This thing should be silent or it just aint clever efficiency in my books

eidairaman1 · Jan 13, 2010, 07:35 PM

Dude the thing is like a Radeon 9700 Pro, power wise.

mtosev · Jan 13, 2010, 07:48 PM

64bit > performance killer. meh. too bad. they cude have used 128bit.

DaC · Jan 13, 2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

Active cooling! for such a low end device. Unforgiveable. This thing should be silent or it just aint clever efficiency in my books

I've never saw a reference design with passive cooler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtosev

64bit > performance killer. meh. too bad. they cude have used 128bit.

64 bits over gddr5 is more like 128bits on gddr3, isn't it ?

robal · Jan 13, 2010, 07:51 PM

Yay ! Low profile ! I like that.
I hope some OEM will release passive cooled version.

mtosev · Jan 13, 2010, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaC

I've never saw a reference design with passive cooler.

64 bits over gddr5 is more like 128bits on gddr3, isn't it ?

dunno

haven't seen a review of a graphic card that has GDDR5 and a 64bit bus.

Imsochobo · Jan 13, 2010, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Dude the thing is like a Radeon 9700 Pro, power wise.

Nope dont think so

its slower than any AMD graphicscard from the 3 series, although memory bandwidth is lower on 3450> 33xx 32xx 24xx 23xx 22xx ...

When will system memory ever be fast ? (for igp's)

Core I7 however have a little potential, trichannel, 28 gb/sec = a 7600 GT max OC.

newtekie1 · Jan 13, 2010, 07:59 PM

What are we talking here? Sub-8600GT performance from the specs? Those could barely handle DX10...forget about running anything DX11 on these cards.

I'm very interested in the power consumption number though, these things should be killer for HTPC setups.

Meizuman · Jan 13, 2010, 08:02 PM

I could imagine this and the integrated 890GX in hybrid crossfire doing some major budget fps numbers on some older titles...

Fourstaff · Jan 13, 2010, 08:06 PM

It still smokes my 4570 big time, I only have 64bit bus, 512mb ddr2 memory and 80 unified shaders (wonder what unified means)

Easo · Jan 13, 2010, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

(wonder what unified means)

That the shader can do anything, before dx 10 card generation in place of shaders were shader and vertex pipelines, which were doing only their stuff.

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