Help me make right decision. i5 vs phenom x4 965

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 04:45 PM

Hello there,
i want to build new pc, will use it for photoshop, full hd media player, game console and file server.
Want to choose *right* platform, this two:
i5 + p55-ud4
phenom 964 + GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
costs about equal in our shops.
What should i bought? Need advice.

Video will be 5850 (want to add second one later).
Thanks.

HalfAHertz · Jan 16, 2010, 04:56 PM

According to AT the i5 750 is marginally better for Photoshop.

For everything else I'd say they're pretty even.

Tyrael · Jan 16, 2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belitsky

Video will be 5850 (want to add second one later).
Thanks.

Make sure that your case has enough space. The card is incredibly long!

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrael

Make sure that your case has enough space. The card is incredibly long!

Case will be Coolermaster 830.

With 850W Coolermaster Power Supply

Tyrael · Jan 16, 2010, 05:14 PM

PSU = Fantastic!
GPU Card = Get it!
PC Case = Grab it! I highly recommend!

MRCL · Jan 16, 2010, 05:17 PM

The 5850 isn't that long actually. In the Stacker there's enough room for it.

Tyrael · Jan 16, 2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MRCL

The 5850 isn't that long actually. In the Stacker there's enough room for it.

In my point of view, if its too cramped, the cable may interfere or block the airflow...

No offence!

Better case + larger case = more things you can add and modify in future.

Bo_Fox · Jan 16, 2010, 05:25 PM

If you care about power consumption, I'd go for the i5 over the Phenom.

Tyrael · Jan 16, 2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belitsky

Case will be Coolermaster 830.
http://www.pcmegastore.nl/catalog/im...vo%20Black.jpg

With 850W Coolermaster Power Supply

Here is a video of the case. Have fun watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmDxz...eature=related

HalfAHertz · Jan 16, 2010, 05:41 PM

That is a gorgeous looking case! I especially like the silver version.

Soylent Joe · Jan 16, 2010, 05:46 PM

I'd go with the i5 and UD4. Less power consumption, will probably run cooler, and you can get an i7 860 or any other badass 1156 proc. in a few years.

r9 · Jan 16, 2010, 06:02 PM

i5 and don`t look back. PII has value only if worked at stock clocks.

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 06:14 PM

Is UD4 good motherboard for OC? Whant to play with this also, when will change box cooler.

erocker · Jan 16, 2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrael

In my point of view, if its too cramped, the cable may interfere or block the airflow...

No offence!

Better case + larger case = more things you can add and modify in future.

Nvidia GTX2XX series is longer. The 5850 is as long as a motherboard. Good airflow is always a good idea though.

I would go with the i5 due to it's superior memory bandwith which will really come in handy for things such as Photoshop.

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 06:21 PM

Guys, can you recommend me memory modules for OC from this http://www.aspark.com.ua/dir/categor...gory_20_6.html site? Sorry, it's in Russian.

HalfAHertz · Jan 16, 2010, 07:01 PM

lga1156 is dual chanel, and the mem controler uses <=1.65 volts. I'd just go cheaper brand memory like OCZ or Corsair
Something like this:
http://www.aspark.com.ua/dir/categor...0_6/29148.html

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfAHertz

lga1156 is dual chanel, and the mem controler uses <=1.65 volts. I'd just go cheaper brand memory like OCZ or Corsair
Something like this:
http://www.aspark.com.ua/dir/categor...0_6/29148.html

This one with low voltage and only 1333 freq, i think i need 1600.

Fourstaff · Jan 16, 2010, 07:18 PM

I think 850w psu is overkill, a 650w should be more than enough to supply all the juices. I would go for a 750w for some upgrading space.

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

I think 850w psu is overkill, a 650w should be more than enough to supply all the juices. I would go for a 750w for some upgrading space.

I will take it cause it's with case together cost lower then case only and other 750W PSU. Just great deal i think. Will use two 5850 and a lot of hdd later.

HalfAHertz · Jan 16, 2010, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belitsky

This one with low voltage and only 1333 freq, i think i need 1600.

From my limited knowledge I can tell that timings > frequency on i7/i5. But someone with more experience in i5 overclocking should step in here.

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfAHertz

From my limited knowledge I can tell that timings > frequency on i7/i5. But someone with more experience in i5 overclocking should step in here.

ok, thank you

belitsky · Jan 16, 2010, 07:41 PM

Also i want to know what will be better: MSI P55-GD65 or GA-P55-UD4 ?

DirectorC · Jan 16, 2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by belitsky

Also i want to know what will be better: MSI P55-GD65 or GA-P55-UD4 ?

For this all you are really going to get are fanboys arguing over Gigabyte or MSI. I prefer Gigabyte because they are known to be more enthusiast friendly.

HalfAHertz · Jan 16, 2010, 08:10 PM

MSI seems to offer more features, but Gigabyte is well known for their quality.

Jan 16, 2010, 04:45 PM	#1
belitsky Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ukraine, Khmelnitskiy Posts: 44 (0.04/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Help me make right decision. i5 vs phenom x4 965 Hello there, i want to build new pc, will use it for photoshop, full hd media player, game console and file server. Want to choose right platform, this two: i5 + p55-ud4 phenom 964 + GA-MA790FXT-UD5P costs about equal in our shops. What should i bought? Need advice. Video will be 5850 (want to add second one later). Thanks.

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Jan 16, 2010, 04:56 PM	#2
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Jan 16, 2010, 05:14 PM	#5
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Jan 16, 2010, 05:25 PM	#8
Bo_Fox Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: Barack Hussein Obama-Biden's Nation Posts: 499 (0.34/day) Thanks: 166 Thanked 59 Times in 39 Posts System Specs	If you care about power consumption, I'd go for the i5 over the Phenom.

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Jan 16, 2010, 06:21 PM	#15
belitsky Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ukraine, Khmelnitskiy Posts: 44 (0.04/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Guys, can you recommend me memory modules for OC from this http://www.aspark.com.ua/dir/categor...gory_20_6.html site? Sorry, it's in Russian.

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HalfAHertz Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,741 (1.18/day) Thanks: 364 Thanked 349 Times in 252 Posts System Specs	lga1156 is dual chanel, and the mem controler uses <=1.65 volts. I'd just go cheaper brand memory like OCZ or Corsair Something like this: http://www.aspark.com.ua/dir/categor...0_6/29148.html __________________ smile or the devil will get in your head and sing karaoke forever...

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belitsky Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ukraine, Khmelnitskiy Posts: 44 (0.04/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Also i want to know what will be better: MSI P55-GD65 or GA-P55-UD4 ?

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Jan 16, 2010, 08:10 PM	#24
HalfAHertz Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,741 (1.18/day) Thanks: 364 Thanked 349 Times in 252 Posts System Specs	MSI seems to offer more features, but Gigabyte is well known for their quality. __________________ smile or the devil will get in your head and sing karaoke forever...

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