Samsung Releases Two High Contrast SyncMaster Displays

[btarunr]

Samsung introduced two high contrast LCD monitors - the SyncMaster 70 Series F2370H and SyncMaster 80 Series F2380MX. The latter targets the casual user, while the former targets professionals. Both are 23-inch displays with native resolution of 1920 x 1080 (Full HD). The selling point here is a dynamic contrast ratio of 150,000:1 and static ratio of 3,000:1. Both use HDMI for input apart from the usual DVI. Both displays further feature a wide viewing angle of 178 degrees. The F2370H and F2380MX are expected to be priced at around 640€ and 675€, respectively, when the release later this month in Korea.



Source: Akihabara News

[assaulter_99]

I love syncmasters! I tried like hell to find one im my country when I was in need of an lcd, they only had 17-19" (vga, not even dvi) in stock. I get another brand (22" / hdmi) and a couple of weeks later, they have it! I always shed a tear when I see a syncmaster

[A Cheese Danish]

SyncMasters are great! Does that price include the female in the pic to bring it to you?

[H82LUZ73]

Originally Posted by A Cheese Danish

SyncMasters are great! Does that price include the female in the pic to bring it to you?

Nope but the green zombie i hear will

[Black Hades]

Now those there sound like IPS pannels right there interesting to say the least
Also with that kind of contrast ratio it may just be the long awaited combo of IPS or PVA pannel with LED lighting.

Edit:
Confirmed on both accounts. That there's what I've been dreaming for a year now but friggin hell that's expensive...

[Completely Bonkers]

x1200 monitors are no more, , RIP.

[Black Hades]

I like so want one... even with that price... I was hanging on to my 21" CRT untill something like this came along but this sure is expensive.

Edit:

With the exception of two news sites I see the panels listed for $352 and $370, respectively!
In that price range they're going to be best sellers if true, this sounds like a bargain for IPS+LED.. I just hope they don't have any deal breaking quirks like a big input lag.

[..'Ant'..]

Looks a lot like my P2370HD.

[mchlor]

and still no new 120hz monitors.

[PP Mguire]

My Samsung > These Samsungs

[buggalugs]

wow, finally some good monitors. The contrast will really make a difference.

[MadMan007]

Color critical professionals would only want IPS but Samsung is like an inventor of PVA. So are these IPS or not? In any case 'Full HD' marketing bs irks me, it's pure marketing to make it sound good when in reality it's less screen than x1200. Too bad, I might have been interested otherwise.

LOL. 640€ ?????? That's a joke right?! Yeah must be a joke, but it's not funny!

I mean, there are a lot of monitors out there with 23" at around 150€, with superb quality, what do I need a more than 4 time expensive monitor?!

[audiotranceable]

look at that girl. She is only happy because the camera man is holding money. Want a girl to smile pull out the $50's

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

They shouldve painted the girl's face green as well

[H82LUZ73]

Originally Posted by mchlor

and still no new 120hz monitors.

So buy the tv ,They are the same thing you know.

[H82LUZ73]

Originally Posted by audiotranceable

look at that girl. She is only happy because the camera man is holding money. Want a girl to smile pull out the $50's

I thought it was if you wanted to smile drop $50`s

[pr0n Inspector]

Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

So buy the tv ,They are the same thing you know.

Show us a TV that takes 120Hz input.

[Valdez]

They are cPVA. They use the same panel with the same specs as f2380 and f2380m.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1332&Tpk=f2380

[H82LUZ73]

Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

Show us a TV that takes 120Hz input.

LOL try LG,Sony,Samsung,Vizio,RCA ect ........Geesh dude you did read the 120hz 10.1 cat readme right

•CrossFire X profiles per application will now be in a separate XML file that it will be possible to update independently of the driver itself
•ATI CrossFire X with PowerPlay for the Radeon 5×00s: reduced energy consumption of additional cards
•AMD Dual Graphics: Possibility of combining performances of the IGP of the RS880 with the forthcoming entry level GPUs from the Cedar and Park ranges.
•3D Stereoscopics: Update of the D3D driver so as to allow third party firms such as IZ3D to use their 3D solution with 120 Hz screens<<<<<<<This mean it was driver issue not TV LCD one:. Support for Bit Cauldron glasses.
•Eyefinity: Bezel Management
•Better GPU acceleration in Windows 7 Video Converter
•Support for DisplayPort Audio (already in the 9.12 hotfix)
•If laptop manufacturers allow it, possibility of installing the Catalysts on a laptop in Vista and 7
•Improvement of 2D performance in Linux
•Support for Ubuntu 9.10 and OpenSUSE 11.2

[MadMan007]

Methinks that the only people who read driver readmes are those with a company logo as their avatar

[MadMan007]

Originally Posted by Valdez

They are cPVA. They use the same panel with the same specs as f2380 and f2380m.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1332&Tpk=f2380

And apparently by the reviews it still has the typical PVA horizontal color/contrast shift issue. For monitors priced in between TN and IPS that might be an acceptable tradeoff but not for something that costs more than IPS panels.

[Valdez]

Originally Posted by MadMan007

And apparently by the reviews it still has the typical PVA horizontal color/contrast shift issue. For monitors priced in between TN and IPS that might be an acceptable tradeoff but not for something that costs more than IPS panels.

Actually f2380/m cost as much as a high-end TN monitor. It's a way less than an IPS monitor.

[Lipton]

I'm having troubles seeing how this can cater to a professional when they are cPVA and 1920x1080.

And when comparing the cPVA Samsung F2380 to the eIPS Dell 2209WA I don't have much hope for cPVA panels for 'professionals' on a budget. See http://www.erodov.com/forums/cpva-coming/22582.html

Granted, the prices are MUCH higher on these than the F2380 but I'm still not certain they can make the cPVA panel look THAT much better. Though I may be wrong.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by PP Mguire

My Samsung > These Samsungs

Maybe for you, but not for anyone that like proper color accuracy. Your samsung is Tn-Film, and looks like ass compared to an IPS or PVA panel. You have higher resolution, but at a lower picture quality. I'll take the quality over the resolution, tyvm.

Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

LOL try LG,Sony,Samsung,Vizio,RCA ect ........Geesh dude you did read the 120hz 10.1 cat readme right

•CrossFire X profiles per application will now be in a separate XML file that it will be possible to update independently of the driver itself
•ATI CrossFire X with PowerPlay for the Radeon 5×00s: reduced energy consumption of additional cards
•AMD Dual Graphics: Possibility of combining performances of the IGP of the RS880 with the forthcoming entry level GPUs from the Cedar and Park ranges.
•3D Stereoscopics: Update of the D3D driver so as to allow third party firms such as IZ3D to use their 3D solution with 120 Hz screens<<<<<<<This mean it was driver issue not TV LCD one:. Support for Bit Cauldron glasses.
•Eyefinity: Bezel Management
•Better GPU acceleration in Windows 7 Video Converter
•Support for DisplayPort Audio (already in the 9.12 hotfix)
•If laptop manufacturers allow it, possibility of installing the Catalysts on a laptop in Vista and 7
•Improvement of 2D performance in Linux
•Support for Ubuntu 9.10 and OpenSUSE 11.2

TV's don't accept 120HZ input. They upconvert 24 and 60Hz to 120Hz to prevent the subtle stutter in motion you get from 24Hz input on LCD TVs, which, prior to the release of 120Hz, only output at 60Hz. These 120Hz TVs only accept 60Hz inputs.