The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[crazyeyesreaper]

with Keis insight on his overclocking i honestly think AMD is sandbagging i bet they could easily release a 140watt 3.8ghz quadcore no issue at this point at around the $230 price point

[Kei]

Originally Posted by erocker

So everything else is bone stock voltage?! What about the NB/CPU VID or HTT voltage. I want God to bless my computer too.

Ahem...bios settings as follows

CPU = 1.450v (1.440v)
CPU/NB = 1.100v
SB = 1.20V
HTT = 1.20V
NB 1.8V = 1.8V
Ram = 1.60v (lowest the board allows or else it'd be 1.50v)
NB = 1.10v

ACC = disabled
Fan speed control = disabled (V8 comes with own fan controller which is set on lowest setting)

I told you God himself came here and blessed this thing! It's still up and running right now new screenshot to show current run time. (upper right corner)

Kei

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

with Keis insight on his overclocking i honestly think AMD is sandbagging i bet they could easily release a 140watt 3.8ghz quadcore no issue at this point at around the $230 price point

It would be very nice if AMD would release

[Kei]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

with Keis insight on his overclocking i honestly think AMD is sandbagging i bet they could easily release a 140watt 3.8ghz quadcore no issue at this point at around the $230 price point

I don't disagree in the least bit, even the C2 chips can run and much higher clock speeds than stock without upping the voltage. Even using air cooling for all my chips so far hasn't stopped me from going far higher than the stock speed on any of them with stock voltage.

I'm almost willing to bet that 3.8Ghz is actually doable on the stock 1.35v if I used the htt bus speed instead of just multiplier clocking only. It was fairly stable using just the multiplier just like the 4Ghz clock was...using the combination of the two I always find allows you to run less voltage and be far more stable.

If my most recent achievement isn't proof I don't know what is.

I think if they wanted to release another model with a higher clock speed the smartest speed would be to do 3.7Ghz which I know was easy to get on the stock 1.35v. That would allow them more flexiblity with binning of the chips, and leave a little more headroom for people to tweak so they 'feel' as though the chip is that much better.

If they go too high with the cpu speed out of the box then you KNOW how the internet gurus usually view things....yea it's a 'nice' chip and all, but you can't overclock more than 300Mhz and you need like 1.5760984357v just to get that? Screw that I'll stick to my current system (which would be a Pentium III or Athlon 3200 lol)

Kei

[crazyeyesreaper]

well my point remains come on AMD toss out some 3.8ghz chips id bet AMD would win market share with OEMs with those things as a 3.8ghz stock PII WILL in many cases be more then a match for stock i5 /i7 systems OEMs put out something along that speed could easily keep AMD going in the profitability sector since this last quater was the first time theyve been profitable in 3 years

[Kei]

Okay so I made an attempt so see if/how far the 4Ghz @ 1.440v clock would make it through the 1024M test of wPrime. It made it past the 10% mark, but that was all it had so I bumped the voltage a little to see if I could get it stable without any drastic measures.

W-I-N

4Ghz @ 1.488v passed wPrime 1024M test no problem. I didn't test any other voltages, just bumped it and tried to see if I could find a pattern to it's stablity/instablity. Didn't need a pattern because I got it on the first go lol.

Awesomeness has been achieved, I have done what I wasn't even sure could be done on air cooling...passed 1024M without using nosebleed voltages.

Kei

(no programs or functions were shut down thus the scores are a little slower, I also run with the Everest main window open as well as the side bar osd to monitor temps and fan speeds...this was on the low fan speed setting achieving 51-52C max temp)

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

yea indeed yours is 100% clear CD that OC looks damn nice was that on AIR ??

DICE and my crosshair III

[Chicken Patty]

kei

that's great man. So you started using the bus speed to overclocked and you gained more stability like that? Either way great job bro

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by cdawall

DICE and my crosshair III

Fucken EH BROTHER!!!!

[Kei]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

kei

that's great man. So you started using the bus speed to overclocked and you gained more stability like that? Either way great job bro

Thanks, I did the same thing with the previous boards though only the M4A78T-E and this MA770T-UD3P proved to be more stable using the bus speed generously along with the multiplier. The M3A32-MVP would do it either way and stablity was just about the same which is pretty nice.

All of the boards though usually prove to be more stable with a combination of HTT speed and multiplier once you get to the 3.9-4Ghz range it seems. This board so far has proven to be the most stable at extreme speeds like that.

Kei

[cdawall]

@kei congrats the only chip i had 24/7 stability @4ghz was my 945ES BE with water cooling chips have come aways since then

oh and my 550BE isn't tapped out yet so it might be able to pull it off who knows

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

Fucken EH BROTHER!!!!

thanks i should be clocking some new chips soon enough hopefully i can get my dual opty rig running

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by Kei

Thanks, I did the same thing with the previous boards though only the M4A78T-E and this MA770T-UD3P proved to be more stable using the bus speed generously along with the multiplier. The M3A32-MVP would do it either way and stablity was just about the same which is pretty nice.

All of the boards though usually prove to be more stable with a combination of HTT speed and multiplier once you get to the 3.9-4Ghz range it seems. This board so far has proven to be the most stable at extreme speeds like that.

Kei

I, WE wanna see a 300FSB! Nowww lol, have you tried it yet Kei?
Leave the ram on auto for timings and use the divider that runs 1600mhz with the 300 bus.... see what the timings do at 300fsb on auto.... I betcha they lower themselves

[Kei]

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

I, WE wanna see a 300FSB! Nowww lol, have you tried it yet Kei?
Leave the ram on auto for timings and use the divider that runs 1600mhz with the 300 bus.... see what the timings do at 300fsb on auto.... I betcha they lower themselves

Yawn....that's easy for me a looong time ago with 3 different boards and 2 processors lol. Even my 9850BE hit 260+ and that was with an early bios. Remember on my PII 920 I even hit 372Mhz and quit testing because I started to run out of multipliers low enough to use, and got bored too lol.

Kei

Edit: Here's something more to your liking with a 300Mhz bus speed. I didn't bother to tweak it all up as I'm trying to make a pizza...but you get the idea. 2nd screenshot

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by Kei

Yawn....that's easy for me a looong time ago with 3 different boards and 2 processors lol. Even my 9850BE hit 260+ and that was with an early bios. Remember on my PII 920 I even hit 372Mhz and quit testing because I started to run out of multipliers low enough to use, and got bored too lol.

Kei

Yawn? Im asking for a 300fsb to equal 4GHz!

Shit bro gimme a break lol.... wanna see 300+ at over 4ghz? Im running it while D/L'n and encoding vids hehe... 300 at lower multi is a breeze Kei so stop messin with me! you know what I was going on about

[Kei]

Okay okay you're going to force me to bump the volts up one more tick. Gimme a sec and I'll see if she'll post get to windows stable since it'll be 4.05Ghz. Not sure what voltage I need for that yet...brb

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

Originally Posted by Kei

Thanks, I did the same thing with the previous boards though only the M4A78T-E and this MA770T-UD3P proved to be more stable using the bus speed generously along with the multiplier. The M3A32-MVP would do it either way and stablity was just about the same which is pretty nice.

All of the boards though usually prove to be more stable with a combination of HTT speed and multiplier once you get to the 3.9-4Ghz range it seems. This board so far has proven to be the most stable at extreme speeds like that.

Kei

Maybe with better RAM I would try bus speed. It'll be a pain having to drop the RAM divider and all. I'll stick to multi for now.

[Kei]

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

Yawn? Im asking for a 300fsb to equal 4GHz!

Shit bro gimme a break lol.... wanna see 300+ at over 4ghz? Im running it while D/L'n and encoding vids hehe... 300 at lower multi is a breeze Kei so stop messin with me! you know what I was going on about

This board doesn't seem to want to run anything over 4Ghz stable (at least not without heavy voltage, and I have very limited experience with this board) so I couldn't get the screenshot for you. I can make it to just after Windows signon, but not long enough to get a shot or make a run.

However...I did have a non budget board before this one, and it COULD rock 300Mhz bus speed at 4Ghz cpu speed. Screenshots tell the story...add the fact that is was my partially defective ASUS M4A78T-E 790GX board makes it even more impressive.

Kei

[Kei]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

Run the test you pansy!

CP...you gave this to me earlier...allow me to return it back to you!

I'll look forward to your highest bus speed screenshot shortly lol.

Kei <--- feels incredibly pleased with himself right now

[fullinfusion]

haha Ok seriously.... David dont taunt Kei!
Here, this is what Im running ATM... notice the NB speed! Yawn

[Kei]

Sweet deal there

This board is not fond of running 3Ghz NB at least not without exceeding a very healthy amount of volts (I've not tried past 1.39v yet). I'll give it another go since I'm on a different bios this time, but I doubt the board will want to run 3Ghz. I've only had 1 board that didn't have a problem with running it even as low as 1.26v and that was the M3A32-MVP. The others required far more volts to even get to boot at that speed if it booted at all.

Kei

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by Kei

Sweet deal there

This board is not fond of running 3Ghz NB at least not without exceeding a very healthy amount of volts (I've not tried past 1.39v yet). I'll give it another go since I'm on a different bios this time, but I doubt the board will want to run 3Ghz. I've only had 1 board that didn't have a problem with running it even as low as 1.26v and that was the M3A32-MVP. The others required far more volts to even get to boot at that speed if it booted at all.

Kei

Bios blah blah lol!!! just pick one and pump up the volts bro!!!! Hell I'll send ya $10 bucks for the hydro bill! bump the volts Kei!!! What ya waiting for? a rad to keep kool? lol.... It's soon on the way... I would have posted it on Monday but the PO was closed do to the holiday.... lets try this week coming? I believe there is nothing to stop me from forcing you to custom H2O lol

[Kei]

Okay so after I posted that last reply I put on my big boy pants for a few minutes and decided to bump the volts to see if I could at least boot 3Ghz nb on this board.

Well if I have the NB voltage set to 1.30v and the cpu/nb voltage set to 1.40v then I can do it. I have absolutely no doubt that the board is pissed at me right now, but I did it anyway lol.

I couldn't get it to boot with the cpu speed at 3.9Ghz though so I just left it at 3.3Ghz without bothering to test any further speeds. The board was definitely unhappy...and I do want to sell it fairly soon so I might not want to risk anything.

Kei

[Flyordie]

My board hates running above 2.2Ghz with 1.2V :-\ It BSOD's to much... lolz. So I backed it down to 2.0Ghz.
NB Voltage was 1.2V
HT Voltage was 1.1V

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by Kei

Okay so after I posted that last reply I put on my big boy pants for a few minutes and decided to bump the volts to see if I could at least boot 3Ghz nb on this board.

Well if I have the NB voltage set to 1.30v and the cpu/nb voltage set to 1.40v then I can do it. I have absolutely no doubt that the board is pissed at me right now, but I did it anyway lol.

I couldn't get it to boot with the cpu speed at 3.9Ghz though so I just left it at 3.3Ghz without bothering to test any further speeds. The board was definitely unhappy...and I do want to sell it fairly soon so I might not want to risk anything.

Kei

CrossHair III?
hehe, that you will definitively like bro!!!!
after that no more excuses lol!!!! just kidding mate....

[Kei]

Originally Posted by Flyordie

My board hates running above 2.2Ghz with 1.2V :-\ It BSOD's to much... lolz. So I backed it down to 2.0Ghz.
NB Voltage was 1.2V
HT Voltage was 1.1V

What was your cpu/nb voltage? That's the important one to look at. It sounds like you've left this voltage stock as 2.2Ghz is able to be run on the stock voltage, but going over that most times requires a bump. That depends on the board and processor of course. With the 955 I have now and the 790GX board I used to have, I could run 2.4Ghz @ 1.1v stable which is the stock voltage.

Kei