Bethsoft Injunction Reveals Elder Scrolls MMO

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 21, 2010, 09:11 PM

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A longtime (hopeful) rumor of PC Savants and MMO-addicts alike, the recent court filings of Bethsoft’s lawsuit against Fallout IP-holder Interplay have – perhaps accidentally – revealed a massively multiplayer online game based on the Elder Scrolls franchise. Found, as always, by series fansite Duck and Cover, the parent company Zenimax had hired Dark Ages of Camelot producer Matt Firor to head an online division of the company in 2007.

Since the hiring, the transcript revealed that “tens and tens of millions of dollars” have been injected into the project of “close to a hundred people.” The injunction script also mentioned that the Elder Scrolls MMO has been developed on a four-year production lifecycle, which would put its prospective release at some point in 2011. VG247 has since confirmed the project as carrying the Elder Scrolls brand. Bethsoft has not returned any call for comments from Elder-Geek.

http://elder-geek.com/2010/01/bethso...-release-date/
http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23626

WhiteLotus · Jan 21, 2010, 09:13 PM

an MMO based obilvion(esk) game...

As long as they don't make me pay every month...

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 21, 2010, 09:14 PM

Yeah Im not sure how I feel about this yet. Probably won't be until I can play it.

zithe · Jan 21, 2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

an MMO based obilvion(esk) game...

As long as they don't make me pay every month...

You can bet they will charge you. Upload bandwidth is extremely expensive.

WhiteLotus · Jan 21, 2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zithe

You can bet they will charge you. Upload bandwidth is extremely expensive.

well in that case, as long as it has 150-200 hours of gameplay in a single player mode.

zithe · Jan 21, 2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

well in that case, as long as it has 150-200 hours of gameplay in a single player mode.

Single player as in solo, yeah. lol

3870x2 · Jan 21, 2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

well in that case, as long as it has 150-200 hours of gameplay in a single player mode.

im sure it will be the same as every other MMO out there, with a shit passive battle system. Where is the active gameplay IE legend of zelda type of gameplay?

WhiteLotus · Jan 21, 2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zithe

Single player as in solo, yeah. lol

I dislike the multi-player aspect of any game. To me it just shows that the developer is too damn lazy to put any thought into a game and just makes them go PvP online to charge more.

I'm not even sure that it would work, unless it's going to be a WoW clone.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Jan 22, 2010, 08:31 AM

lol I can think of one glitch I can abuse with this one.. hit sneak button and jam the move forward button behind rat. Leave it for 1 month and you have your level 99 character with maxed out sneak lol

Frick · Jan 22, 2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

I dislike the multi-player aspect of any game. To me it just shows that the developer is too damn lazy to put any thought into a game and just makes them go PvP online to charge more.

I'm not even sure that it would work, unless it's going to be a WoW clone.

Well, it depends on which game it is. MMO's are created for multiplayer purposes, makes sense. Sometimes it feels like the creators are lazy, but let's face it: Online gaming is here to stay and I don't see that change any time soon. This and DLC is killing real games imo.

There are good mmo's though (EVE that is). WoW isn't bad, but you really need a group of friends to play with to get the most out of it. I was a hardcore solo guy, and once I got to max level there was no sense in playing anymore.

And for the record: It's Bethsoft, so it will be a bad game.

pr0n Inspector · Jan 22, 2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frick

Well, it depends on which game it is. MMO's are created for multiplayer purposes, makes sense. Sometimes it feels like the creators are lazy, but let's face it: Online gaming is here to stay and I don't see that change any time soon. This and DLC is killing real games imo.

There are good mmo's though (EVE that is). WoW isn't bad, but you really need a group of friends to play with to get the most out of it. I was a hardcore solo guy, and once I got to max level there was no sense in playing anymore.

And for the record: It's Bethsoft, so it will be a bad game.

This man speaks the truth.

twicksisted · Jan 22, 2010, 10:28 AM

lol i love the way everyone is jumping on it before its even demo'd without any thing to form an opinion on... Stop being such doom mongers lol... and...its just a game after all

slyfox2151 · Jan 22, 2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

This man speaks the truth.

Fallout 3?

von kain · Jan 22, 2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by slyfox2151

Fallout 3?

"This" man speaks the truth.

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 22, 2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frick

And for the record: It's Bethsoft, so it will be a bad game.

Bad? Um no. Buggy? Hell yes. Usually the mod community steps in and makes their games great but don't really see how that could continue on this title.

phanbuey · Jan 22, 2010, 02:54 PM

Bethesta is hit or miss... they do make some epic games... despite all the b*tching Oblivion is one of the best RPG's of all time.

pr0n Inspector · Jan 22, 2010, 03:25 PM

Far Cry 2, despite being developed by oo-bi-soft, is most representative of Bethesda games: weak story, drive-less and boring.

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 22, 2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

Far Cry 2, despite being developed by oo-bi-soft, is most representative of Bethesda games: weak story, drive-less and boring.

Well, I can't argue with your assessment of FC2 but I think you're being a bit harsh on Bethesda's work. To each his own, though.

Kreij · Jan 23, 2010, 03:27 AM

To RPG fans, the work Bethesda does is a text book example of what role playing games should strive to accomplish. The games they make are not without problems, but when you consider the epic scope of their games, the open-ended freedom to do whatever you want and the ability to use the environment for almost unlimited fun (e.g collect pillows and build a pillow wall around a guard so he can't get out) they stand alone in the genre.

That being said, I am very sceptical about their ability to pull off an MMO that would rival their SP games.

Just my 2 cents.

farlex85 · Jan 23, 2010, 03:39 AM

In many ways I think the Elder Scrolls world is perfect for a MMORPG. Huge sprawling world with virtually unlimited freedom and a somewhat disjointed yet overarching story. My only fear is their world, once populated by endless people doing the same quests and hero-ing as you are, will feel far more artificial. It's strange, but in worlds as expertly crafted as those regularly churned out by Bethesda and Bioware, the worst thing you could do for the believability of the world is add other real players, b/c so far no one has done it in a way that is truly unique. The upcoming KOTRO and now this, I hope will find some way to make each user's experience unique, the world truly dynamic based on the players' actions, rather than the old tired NPC and instance formula. That's the only way I could see these games being worth more than a taste.

Kreij · Jan 23, 2010, 04:07 AM

Very nice, Farlex. You eloquently expanded on exactly why I am sceptical about an Elder Scrolls MMO.

AphexDreamer · Jan 23, 2010, 04:34 AM

OMG some new from the God Like Developers. They wont fail!

I heard about this a while back though. I just hope its as good as the rest of the Elder Scrolls Series which I'm sure it will.

FordGT90Concept · Jan 23, 2010, 04:34 AM

I think I'll pass. I'm not a fan of MMO.

Kreij · Jan 23, 2010, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

I think I'll pass. I'm not a fan of MMO.

I'm not either. I played EQ for about 3 years, but I simply do not have the time to devote to a MMO game. I would rather just dabble in SP games when I'm not coding.

However, I would reconsider if something came along that was a really exceptional RPGMMO. The key word being "exceptional". I won't hold my breath. My idea of exceptional is still not available in SP games.

AsRock · Jan 23, 2010, 04:50 AM

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To RPG fans, the work Bethesda does is a text book example of what role playing games should strive to accomplish. The games they make are not without problems, but when you consider the epic scope of their games, the open-ended freedom to do whatever you want and the ability to use the environment for almost unlimited fun (e.g collect pillows and build a pillow wall around a guard so he can't get out) they stand alone in the genre.

That being said, I am very sceptical about their ability to pull off an MMO that would rival their SP games.

Just my 2 cents.

Yes i really enjoy there games and more so the length of them too.

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