Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

btarunr · Jan 28, 2010, 10:48 AM

AMD's upcoming six-core desktop processor, codenamed "Thuban" is on course for a May 2010, suggests a report. The series is likely to receive the brand name Phenom II X6. There are four models planned for release within Q2, 2010. The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Istanbul core, in the socket AM3 package, supporting dual-channel DDR3 memory. It is a monolithic multi-core design with six x86-64 cores, each with 128 KB of L1, 512 KB of L2 cache, and a 6 MB L3 cache shared between the six cores. Just as with K10 dual, triple, and quad core processors where AMD used a HyperTransport interface clock speed of 1800 MHz (3600 MT/s), or 2000 MHz (4000 MT/s), the new processor will take advantage of HyperTransport 3.x interface, with a HT speed of 2400 MHz (4800 MT/s). Thuban will be built on GlobalFoundaries' 45 nm node.

The table below lists out details of the four planned models. The model number of the top part isn't known. Most likely it is a Black Edition part, which comes with an unlocked BClk multiplier. It operates at 2.80 GHz, with a TDP of 140W. A step below is the Phenom II X6 1075T, which has an expected TDP of 125W, the 1055T is a notch below, and 1035T being the cheapest part. The exact clock speeds of the latter three models isn't known as yet. A month ahead of releasing these chips, AMD will announce the AMD 8-series chipset platform, led by 890FX (high-end, best for CrossFireX), 890GX (performance integrated graphics with CrossFire support). The AMD SB800 series southbridge chips will feature native support for SATA 6 Gb/s. Its on-die SATA controller gives out six SATA ports complete with RAID support. Some existing AM3 motherboards based on 7-series chipsets may also support Phenom II X6 with a BIOS update.

Source: OCWorkbench

lism · Jan 28, 2010, 10:57 AM

Considering the TDP values the lower models will be around 2.7GHz down to 2.5/2.4GHz. From what i dont understand yet will these chips compete against the i7 of intel? Without having software being optimized for multi-core (rendering) it will be really hard to scale with 6 cores instead of 2 for example.

xaira · Jan 28, 2010, 11:00 AM

2.8 GHZ @ 140w, not bad, i expected alot worse, well done amd. Maybe you guys can crank out an Athlon II X6 for <$150 just 4 guys like me.

Thrawn · Jan 28, 2010, 11:05 AM

"The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Shanghai core..."

Did you mean Istanbul instead of Shanghai?

btarunr · Jan 28, 2010, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrawn

"The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Shanghai core..."

Did you mean Istanbul instead of Shanghai?

Woops, thanks.

wahdangun · Jan 28, 2010, 11:15 AM

hmmm just 6 mb l3 cache? and where the hell is quad channel memory?

pantherx12 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lism

Considering the TDP values the lower models will be around 2.7GHz down to 2.5/2.4GHz. From what i dont understand yet will these chips compete against the i7 of intel? Without having software being optimized for multi-core (rendering) it will be really hard to scale with 6 cores instead of 2 for example.

These are great chips for people who use editing programs of any kind mind you, it be a while til there handy for desktop consumers, but even then, running a few games at once is always a laugh

Can't wait, may go back to AMD if the price is right.

pantherx12 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahdangun

hmmm just 6 mb l3 cache? and where the hell is quad channel memory?

Havnig a 12mb cache has less then a 12% improvement or something insane and rubbish, so its a waste of space, less cache means potentially better processing parts of the chip

As for quad channel, I suspect that won't be here til bull dozer is out.

btarunr · Jan 28, 2010, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahdangun

hmmm just 6 mb l3 cache? and where the hell is quad channel memory?

That's Magny-Corus, has 12 cores, 10 MB L3, and quad-channel DDR3. The Opteron implementation itself is far away.

HalfAHertz · Jan 28, 2010, 11:24 AM

Why did it take them so long? Istanbul has been around for over half an year on the server market, correct?

Zubasa · Jan 28, 2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfAHertz

Why did it take them so long? Istanbul has been around for over half an year on the server market, correct?

I guess they need to work out higher clocks at that 140W TDP

Afterall the Istanbuls aren't really OC friendly, and I believe they are clock quite a bit lower also?

filip007 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:36 AM

Why not 32nm, this is just Deneb with two more cores.

pantherx12 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filip007

Why not 32nm, this is just Deneb with two more cores.

And what's wrong with that?

xaira · Jan 28, 2010, 11:40 AM

as of now, it appears intel is the only company capable of 32nm production, and they aint sharing, GF 32nm shud b up and running l8r this year or early next year

pantherx12 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:42 AM

Do Intel actually have any 32nm processors out yet?

Out of the loop with things as I've been focusing on stuff in RL.

Paulieg · Jan 28, 2010, 11:43 AM

These chips may make some very good crunchers. I'll be holding on to my AM3 board just for this.

tonyd223 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:45 AM

What? No DDR2 support?

filip007 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:45 AM

What GlobalFoundaries can't make 32nm...

This article said about 12 core in 32nm, OK i can go with that...
http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/g...-soi-20090527/

xaira · Jan 28, 2010, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

Do Intel actually have any 32nm processors out yet?

Out of the loop with things as I've been focusing on stuff in RL.

yip, all the new dual i3 and i5 r 32nm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...name=Core%20i3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...name=Core%20i5

Paulieg · Jan 28, 2010, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyd223

What? No DDR2 support?

Of course not. Architecture is moving forward, not backward.

HalfAHertz · Jan 28, 2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubasa

I guess they need to work out higher clocks at that 140W TDP

Afterall the Istanbuls aren't really OC friendly, and I believe they are clock quite a bit lower also?

The 2,6Ghz Istanbul based Operton 2435 has a TDP of 125W and has been around for > 7 months. It is taking them over an year just to add DDR3 support?

Oh my I don't want to think how late Bulldozer will be if this is true.

tonyd223 · Jan 28, 2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

Of course not. Architecture is moving forward, not backward.

but me sat here with 8Gb of DDR2... boo hoo - gonna have to buy DDR3 now

xaira · Jan 28, 2010, 11:52 AM

well i much prefer 2 more cores over ddr2 support, ddr2 prices have skyrocketed rescently, sell them those 8gb, u might even get them sold for a profit

(FIH) The Don · Jan 28, 2010, 11:56 AM

now i gotta go get a new board, will do when new 890X boards come out

A Cheese Danish · Jan 28, 2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

That's Magny-Corus, has 12 cores, 10 MB L3, and quad-channel DDR3. The Opteron implementation itself is far away.

Can't wait for those!!!!

However, these Phenoms will do

Very nice AMD!

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