Phenom II X6 & "NEW" Phenom II X4's on the way!

[nt300]

Thuban branded as AMD Phenom II X6
Published on Friday, February 5 2010 2:10 pm

http://vr-zone.com/articles/thuban-b...i-x6/8399.html

AMD's Leo platform arrives in March 2010 and is rumoured to consist of updated Phenom II X4 processors in addition to Phenom II X6 and 890GX.

AMD Phenom II X6 “Thuban” Processors to Get Dynamic Speed Boost Technology.
AMD’s Six Core Chips to Feature Dynamic Performance Boost
[02/05/2010 07:30 AM]
by Anton Shilov
evelopers of CPUs implement special dynamic performance boosting technologies that disable certain cores and overclock the rest.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...echnology.html

[Kantastic]

So what's new?

[nt300]

Have I been sleeping

Then did you know the Hyper Transport speed is going to be 2.4GHz. Current Phenom II's are 2GHz and the AM2+ onces are 1.8GHz. This may give a performance boost and maybe just maybe this new Phenom II will take out the Core 2's and Core 2 Quad's clock for clock. As for Nehalem, I think AMD lost the boat on that along time ago.

[Kantastic]

Originally Posted by nt300

Have I been sleeping

Then did you know the Hyper Transport speed is going to be 2.4GHz. Current Phenom II's are 2GHz and the AM2+ onces are 1.8GHz. This may give a performance boost and maybe just maybe this new Phenom II will take out the Core 2's and Core 2 Quad's clock for clock. As for Nehalem, I think AMD lost the boat on that along time ago.

http://techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113955

Why I did!

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by nt300

Have I been sleeping

Then did you know the Hyper Transport speed is going to be 2.4GHz. Current Phenom II's are 2GHz and the AM2+ onces are 1.8GHz. This may give a performance boost and maybe just maybe this new Phenom II will take out the Core 2's and Core 2 Quad's clock for clock. As for Nehalem, I think AMD lost the boat on that along time ago.

The higher HT speeds wont help against Yorkfields. It isn't a bottleneck on the x4's right now anyway, so clocking it won't give you much of anything. The x6's probably benefit from it tho, and the new X4's are likely just cut down X6's, so the 2400Mhz HT just carried over.

[Kantastic]

Originally Posted by Wile E

The higher HT speeds wont help against Yorkfields. It isn't a bottleneck on the x4's right now anyway, so clocking it won't give you much of anything. The x6's probably benefit from it tho, and the new X4's are likely just cut down X6's, so the 2400Mhz HT just carried over.

Wile E lets start a bet, if what you say about X4's are true, ya think they'll be unlockable?

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by Kantastic

Wile E lets start a bet, if what you say about X4's are true, ya think they'll be unlockable?

I bet some will.

[assaulter_99]

I hope they fare well against intel's offerings. A bit of competition could bring some prices down, good for us customers.

[Mussels]

the dynamic clocks sound like intels turbo mode

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by assaulter_99

I hope they fare well against intel's offerings. A bit of competition could bring some prices down, good for us customers.

I also agree with you friend will be great if the callus of step with this release intel

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Hunt3r

I also agree with you friend will be great if the callus of step with this release intel

I think google translate has failed you

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by Mussels

I think google translate has failed you

maybe..hehe

[Indra EMC]

Originally Posted by Mussels

I think google translate has failed you

He's Brazilian mate, that's why he using google translate when he make a comment in here.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Indra EMC

He's Brazilian mate, that's why he using google translate when he make a comment in here.

indeed. i was letting him know his message wasn't understandable.

[Indra EMC]

Sorry for OUT OF TOPIC.

i never use AMD Processor, did AMD have virtual core in any phenom X4 series ?

for example (Core : 4 Threads: 8) like some of intel CPU's ?

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by Indra EMC

Sorry for OUT OF TOPIC.

i never use AMD Processor, did AMD have virtual core in any phenom X4 series ?

for example (Core : 4 Threads: 8) like some of intel CPU's ?

No. That is Intel only.

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by Indra EMC

He's Brazilian mate, that's why he using google translate when he make a comment in here.

I am Brazilian do not always use translators..Something against Brazilian friend?

[pantherx12]

Originally Posted by Wile E

No. That is Intel only.

And sunmicrosystems and IBM

[Aleksander]

I am from albania and the translation in google translate is ridiculous. I write in english myself

[Hunt3r]

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica

I am from albania and the translation in google translate is ridiculous. I write in english myself

Good for you

[nt300]

Originally Posted by Wile E

The higher HT speeds wont help against Yorkfields. It isn't a bottleneck on the x4's right now anyway, so clocking it won't give you much of anything. The x6's probably benefit from it tho, and the new X4's are likely just cut down X6's, so the 2400Mhz HT just carried over.

Increased HT speeds will benefit Phenom II's a lot more than higher CPU speeds. AMD took away the bottleneck when they trashed the FSB way back in the day. HT has no visible bottlenecks.

Originally Posted by Mussels

the dynamic clocks sound like intels turbo mode

It is AMDs version but done in a better way than what Intel is currently using.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by nt300

Increased HT speeds will benefit Phenom II's a lot more than higher CPU speeds. AMD took away the bottleneck when they trashed the FSB way back in the day. HT has no visible bottlenecks.

It is AMDs version but done in a better way than what Intel is currently using.

Right, if it has no bottlenecks, increasing it's speed won't improve performance significantly.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by nt300

It is AMDs version but done in a better way than what Intel is currently using.

cool and quiet shits all over speedstep, so yeah, sounds awesome.


800MHz 0.8v idle on my tri core, with however high these beasties go in their new turbo mode...

sounds awesome to me. power and efficiency.


wile E: with half again as many cores, a bottleneck is more likely.

[cdawall]

if the quads can unlock to X6's you may have something that competes easily with i7 6 cores in the $150-250 that would be killer if you got about the same perf as a 4ghz i7

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by Mussels

cool and quiet shits all over speedstep, so yeah, sounds awesome.


800MHz 0.8v idle on my tri core, with however high these beasties go in their new turbo mode...

sounds awesome to me. power and efficiency.


wile E: with half again as many cores, a bottleneck is more likely.

Right, but the original post I responded to on the topic was referring to the X4 versions maybe gaining peformance with the higher HT, to which I responded not likely. I figured they were neutered X6's, thus the only reason they have the 2400Mhz HT, not because it actually benefits an X4.

That explanation make sense at all?

Originally Posted by cdawall

if the quads can unlock to X6's you may have something that competes easily with i7 6 cores in the $150-250 that would be killer if you got about the same perf as a 4ghz i7

Nope, won't compete in a performance aspect. Price to performance ratio, sure, raw performance (which is all that matters to me), not likely.