Phenom II X6 & "NEW" Phenom II X4's on the way! - Page 3

Kantastic · Feb 9, 2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica

Maybe they are going to rebrand the phenoms with new names... "Phenom III"

Then it better have the same significant increase in performance (clock per clock) there was when they went from Phenom to Phenom II.

Mussels · Feb 9, 2010, 09:28 AM

even the thread title states its still going to be phenom II x6

Aleksander · Feb 9, 2010, 10:05 AM

Even another thread stated 3xx GTX series about fermi

1Kurgan1 · Feb 9, 2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica

Even another thread stated 3xx GTX series about fermi

Except the fact that it's AMD/ATI not AMD/Nvidia, wrong company...

cdawall · Feb 9, 2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

I thought you were referring to the upcoming Intel 6 cores.

lol woops no the AMD wont compete with those unless hell freezes over and they somehow gain like 50% more efficiency

wahdangun · Feb 9, 2010, 09:39 PM

or until the bulldozer comes out

troyrae360 · Feb 9, 2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wahdangun

or until the bulldozer comes out

Yes, bulldozer is set to bulldoze i7 to the ground

Zebeon · Feb 9, 2010, 10:09 PM

When are the Phenom 6 core suppose to be out.... Release date or no?

What socket will they be anyone know yet.

erocker · Feb 9, 2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebeon

When are the Phenom 6 core suppose to be out.... Release date or no?

What socket will they be anyone know yet.

April and they will be socket AM3/AM2+

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Originally Posted by troyrae360

Yes, bulldozer is set to bulldoze i7 to the ground

It would be nice for competition sake, but don't count on it. Intel is just too big. It reamains to be seen though, if AMD does come out with something faster, will Intel counter with something better, or will they rely on their brand recognition like they did with Pentiums when K8 was king? I'm pretty sure Intel has plenty up their sleeve to counter anything AMD puts out.

Kantastic · Feb 9, 2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by erocker

It would be nice for competition sake, but don't count on it. Intel is just too big. I reamains to be seen though, if AMD does come out with something faster, will Intel counter with something better, or will they rely on their brand recognition like they did with Pentiums when K8 was king. I'm pretty sure Intel has plenty up their sleeve to counter anything AMD puts out.

I'm not one to speak but after all this legal crap I'm not sure it was brand recognition that they relied on.

nt300 · Feb 10, 2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by troyrae360

Yes, bulldozer is set to bulldoze i7 to the ground

No bulldozer is set to bulldoze the i9, i10, i11 & i12. Don't matter what Intel releases, AMD bulldozer is going to be fast

runnin17 · Mar 2, 2010, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nt300

No bulldozer is set to bulldoze the i9, i10, i11 & i12. Don't matter what Intel releases, AMD bulldozer is going to be fast

Any good links to some good info on Bulldozer???

Mar 3, 2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nt300

http://vr-zone.com/articles/thuban-b...i-x6/8399.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...echnology.html

What is the highest stock clock speed of the flagship version of these chips? I doubt it is over 3.0 GHz. Even the Core i9 extreme edition has a sub 3GHz stock speed.

Mar 3, 2010, 01:54 AM

AMD's flagship processor will never outperform Intel's flagship processor. AMD's hardware is supposed to cost much less than that of Intel, and still give good, but not better performance. The Phenom II X4 965BE is about 1/3 as fast as the Core i7 975 Extreme Edition both at stock clock speeds. I would imagine the same would hold true for whatever those Two rival companies release in the future.

troyrae360 · Mar 3, 2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkey_Business

AMD's flagship processor will never outperform Intel's flagship processor. .

well we all know thats not true as AMD processors have alredy outpreformed Intels in the past.

Super XP · Mar 3, 2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkey_Business

AMD's flagship processor will never outperform Intel's flagship processor. AMD's hardware is supposed to cost much less than that of Intel, and still give good, but not better performance. The Phenom II X4 965BE is about 1/3 as fast as the Core i7 975 Extreme Edition both at stock clock speeds. I would imagine the same would hold true for whatever those Two rival companies release in the future.

Yes not today but tomorrow is a different story. Its already quite evident that AMD's past CPU's outperformed Intel's big time.

Remember the Pentium 4's? Intel needed at least an extra 1000 MHz++ CPU clock speed over AMD Athlon 64's just to keep up with them. We don't see this today because a Phenom II @ 3.0 GHz can outperform a Core 2 or i7 @ 2.0 GHz right

Mar 3, 2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Yes not today but tomorrow is a different story. Its already quite evident that AMD's past CPU's outperformed Intel's big time.

Remember the Pentium 4's? Intel needed at least an extra 1000 MHz++ CPU clock speed over AMD Athlon 64's just to keep up with them. We don't see this today because a Phenom II @ 3.0 GHz can outperform a Core 2 or i7 @ 2.0 GHz right

AMD's chips outperformed Intel's processors back during the days of the 386, 486 and original Pentium processors. Think late 80's early 90's. Do you think that AMD will make another chip in the future which will beat out Intel?

troyrae360 · Mar 3, 2010, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkey_Business

AMD's chips outperformed Intel's processors back during the days of the 386, 486 and original Pentium processors. Think late 80's early 90's. Do you think that AMD will make another chip in the future which will beat out Intel?

Try late 90's and earler this decade,
And yes the bulldozer has a very good chance and I would say it will definitley out preform i7

Paulieg · Mar 3, 2010, 02:57 AM

Any idea on pricing for x6?

MohawkAngel · Mar 3, 2010, 03:05 AM

I would like to get the 3.1 gigs 6megs cache equivalent on my phenom but for a 6 cores and overclockd to 4 gigs like mine :P

blkhogan · Mar 3, 2010, 03:12 AM

Leo? Where the hell did that name come from? AMD usualy uses cool names like "spider" and "Dragon" to promote thier offerings. Leo? Come on AMD howabout something like "Wolf" or "bulldog", freaking Leo.

erocker · Mar 3, 2010, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

Any idea on pricing for x6?

An educated guess would be $499 on down?

Solaris17 · Mar 3, 2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nt300

No bulldozer is set to bulldoze the i9, i10, i11 & i12. Don't matter what Intel releases, AMD bulldozer is going to be fast

lolz

tell you what not to de-rail but for friendly competition you buy a bull dozer and we will have a bench off. graphics are not a concern focus on CPU score. Loser eats a sock. lets dance

blkhogan · Mar 3, 2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

lolz

tell you what not to de-rail but for friendly competition you buy a bull dozer and we will have a bench off. graphics are not a concern focus on CPU score. Loser eats a sock. lets dance

Nice.

Paulieg · Mar 3, 2010, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by erocker

An educated guess would be $499 on down?

If they want to have the x6 be competitive with i7 chips, I really think they need to be careful with pricing. There needs to be a Black Edition part available for less than $300. At least that is the only thing that would convince me to try one.

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