Intel Tones Down Stock CPU Cooler for LGA 775 Processors Further

btarunr · Mar 1, 2010, 10:22 AM

Intel has come up with a new design for its Fan Heat-sink Assembly (FHSA) it bundles with some (presumably dual-core) boxed socket LGA-775 processors. The new design aims at making it slightly more cost-effective by reducing the metal content, and trying to compensate with a more turbulent airflow design. While the forked aluminum fins in the old design project spirally from the base, in the new design they project radially. The CPU contact base is slightly smaller, and leveled to the fins. Changes as listed by Intel are as follows:

A slightly smaller impeller (fan speed is increased because of this but noise output stays the same)
Fan shroud hub diameter increased (from 34mm to 40mm) due to modifications to fan electronics
Heatsink fins will be straight (as opposed to curved as they are now)
The heatsink will be a bit more compact (height decreased from 18.9 mm to 18.47mm)

The new FHSA should be bundled with the latest stocks of Intel processors in the LGA 775 package. They should just about keep the processors running within recommended temperatures at stock clock speeds.

Source: TechConnect Magazine

Hazar · Mar 1, 2010, 10:59 AM

suxx..
80C - IntelBurnTest

TIGR · Mar 1, 2010, 11:15 AM

"Intel Tones Down Stock CPU Cooler for LGA 775 Processors Further" ... sounds like making a milder mild cheddar, a more economical Geo Metro, a .22 LR cartridge with a bit "toned down" stopping power....

But hey, if it makes the CPUs less expensive at the expense of a component I never use anyway, I'm all for it.

afw · Mar 1, 2010, 11:16 AM

It seems as if they are forcing people to buy aftermarket coolers for the CPUs ... really bad INTEL

JackAttack · Mar 1, 2010, 11:20 AM

I thought socket LGA-775 processors were dying out fast?
Why is Intel even bothering, flogging a dead horse?

I say this with tongue in cheek, I love my Dual Core and am buying another E8400 just for backup.

caleb · Mar 1, 2010, 11:54 AM

Waiting for i5/i7 to fill the market. For me c2d is history.
Already sold my PC runnin on a lap until it gets more PPF (polish pocket friendly).
IMHO cheap new > any old tech when it comes to computers.

entropy13 · Mar 1, 2010, 12:01 PM

That's why they've toned it down even further, the LGA775 processors will be fully replaced by the LGA1156 and LGA1366 processors sooner or later.

jpierce55 · Mar 1, 2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGR

"Intel Tones Down Stock CPU Cooler for LGA 775 Processors Further" ... sounds like making a milder mild cheddar, a more economical Geo Metro, a .22 LR cartridge with a bit "toned down" stopping power....

But hey, if it makes the CPUs less expensive at the expense of a component I never use anyway, I'm all for it.

I would really be interested in the more economical Geo Metro thank you, a cooler that doesn't work good might as well not even be in the box.

TIGR · Mar 1, 2010, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpierce55

I would really be interested in the more economical Geo Metro thank you, a cooler that doesn't work good might as well not even be in the box.

Haha ironically, I would be too ... I'm a hypermiler.

FreedomEclipse · Mar 1, 2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackAttack

I thought socket LGA-775 processors were dying out fast?
Why is Intel even bothering, flogging a dead horse?

I say this with tongue in cheek, I love my Dual Core and am buying another E8400 just for backup.

it appears their adding a handfull of processors to the 775 list - but there will be nothing above the performance of the Q9550 - so really the 3 top 775 chips, the Q9550, Q9650 & Q9770 Extreme (maybe socket 775 Xeon chips - but they werent general consumers so they dont really count) are the 'last hurrah' of the 775 era. the new chips are mainly celerons though. (I think 3 of them are & the rest are just under the performance of the Q9550 - I remember seeing a waterd down Q9550 in the intel line up report.)

I think the move is mainly to appease OEM manufacturers who might still have some old 775 boards left over that they wish to dump & at this stage how many people will buy a 775? the markets all dominated by i5's & i7's. & very few retailers will have 775 hardware in stock. So its mainly OEMs that will buy the last few processors & the less they have to pay, the happier they are - you know how the story goes...

brandonwh64 · Mar 1, 2010, 12:39 PM

hell i got one of these with my E5200 last year and it sucked so bad! idled @ 48 and loaded at over 60s

thats with some AS5 TIM

KainXS · Mar 1, 2010, 12:42 PM

if you had an E5200 idling @ 48C then it sounds like you just had a crappy heatsink on it, I had a E4400(one of the hottest C2D made) and even that only idled at 39C with the stock cooler

brandonwh64 · Mar 1, 2010, 12:43 PM

it was this crap heatsink the OP posted. i didnt run it full speed cause it made the PC sound like a jet engine. ran it about 2000RPM

FreedomEclipse · Mar 1, 2010, 01:14 PM

I know its not right that intel did this - but on the otherhand - Arctic Cooling still makes the Freezer 7 Pro as a cheap alternative to the 'new' stock cooler. prices are stupidly cheap for them coolers (if you can find them) & it will be a lot better then the stock cooler. Im not too sure about when it comes to overclocking though. the market is dominated by 120mm tower coolers in that respect.

brandonwh64 · Mar 1, 2010, 01:16 PM

The first version of the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro was a bad experience for me. it had horrible temps on a 5400+ BE @ stock clocks/volts and the E5200 i had. I have herd that the newer revisions are alot better.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Mar 1, 2010, 01:18 PM

i have a freezer 7 pro and i can't oc my quad too much, it stinks!

gumpty · Mar 1, 2010, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Intel Tones Down Stock CPU Cooler

'Tones' is right. That thing is going to be even louder.

Not that it really matters to any of us. How many people on TPU would have even the slightest intention of using the stock cooler when they buy a processor anyway?

brandonwh64 · Mar 1, 2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

i have a freezer 7 pro and i can't oc my quad too much, it stinks!

Probly have the first revisions like mine and yes it did stink! another cooler that stunk even worse was the OCZ vanquisher! that cooler was worse than stock!

[I.R.A]_FBi · Mar 1, 2010, 01:23 PM

me?

assaulter_99 · Mar 1, 2010, 01:56 PM

Has anyone thought that if the chips don't heat that much, why does it need the thickness? They don't heat like 90nm cpus no more so I would suspect they don't need to stick in a huge stock HSF. Its not like they need to give you headroom to OC anyways, there are aftermarket for that (and its not like we were going to OC using stock anyway!)

brandonwh64 · Mar 1, 2010, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assaulter_99

Has anyone thought that if the chips don't heat that much, why does it need the thickness? They don't heat like 90nm cpus no more so I would suspect they don't need to stick in a huge stock HSF. Its not like they need to give you headroom to OC anyways, there are aftermarket for that (and its not like we were going to OC using stock anyway!)

Thats a good point assualter but as i posted before that i had this on a E5200 45nm CPU and it still ran hot. they should make it to at least to a descent job cooling @ stock settings.

newtekie1 · Mar 1, 2010, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Thats a good point assualter but as i posted before that i had this on a E5200 45nm CPU and it still ran hot. they should make it to at least to a descent job cooling @ stock settings.

They actually do, the problem is that most people seem to have a screwed up view of what acceptable temperatures are. 45°C idle with the stock cooler is acceptable, 70°C load is also. Preferable? No. Acceptable? Yes.

The stock cooler is the bare minimum, and it does a bare minimum job.

FreedomEclipse · Mar 1, 2010, 02:45 PM

well - If you dont want to spend a lot of cash for a 3rd party cooler - the freezer 7 pro would be pretty decent if no overclocking is planned.

im sure there are a few more budget options available but they obviously wont be cheap as the Freezer 7 pro - on the other hand (just googled this) OCZ's Vendetta 2 (a much better option since is 120mm) can be found for almost the same price lol its a really good cooler for the money. not exactly super cool but more the adequate for an overclocked dual or Quad (got one on my Q9550)

Initialised · Mar 1, 2010, 02:48 PM

I've seen stock clocked Lynnefields hitting 90C on stock coolers.

Can't they just charge less for the CPUs and not bother with a cooler?

DanTheBanjoman · Mar 1, 2010, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazar

suxx..
80C - IntelBurnTest

Which is well within design specs. So what is the problem? Perhaps it shortens the lifespan a bit, but I am sure it will still last until past the moment it becomes an obsolete chip anyway. So Intel makes more money, you have something to complain about, everyone is happy.

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Benchmarks:	World First 4890 Crossfire Data. Highest scoring E2160 & E4600 on CPC Leaderboard. Highest AirCool

Processor:	Dual Xeon 5506
Motherboard:	Asus Z8NA-D6
Cooling:	2x Thermalright HR-01 X/passive
Memory:	6GB Corsair something
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 260 Core 216
Hard Disk:	None
Optical Drive:	None
CRT/LCD Model:	24" Asus
Case:	Thermaltake Swing
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	620W CM
Software:	Win2k8

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