MSI HD 5870 Lightning 1 GB GDDR5

W1zzard · Mar 9, 2010, 12:37 PM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...870_Lightning/

Kitkat · Mar 11, 2010, 10:43 PM

plz tell me u have an 5870 asus top and your doing it next and soon rofl

KainXS · Mar 11, 2010, 10:48 PM

1100mhz on air, thats crazy

W1zzard · Mar 11, 2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitkat

plz tell me u have an 5870 asus top and your doing it next and soon rofl

atm i'm only signed up for the ares and the matrix :P

Kitkat · Mar 11, 2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

atm i'm only signed up for the ares and the matrix :P

lol yay and aww at the same time lol..... you know what i mean.

Andy77 · Mar 11, 2010, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

atm i'm only signed up for the ares and the matrix :P

The Matrix is fine, thanks! Unfortunately I hoped that the Lightning would offer some competition to ASUS and will make prices sync, but if Matrix will do better, then there's no reason for them not to up its price.

BTW, why are most review sites interested in taking an OC orientated card and put it to regular tests but leave the OC part just on one page. Seriously, every other site did that.

BTW, W1zz... any thought if you could be doing a x58 vs 890FX comparison? Maybe using the ASUS Matrix? And/or Xfire?

I know, I know... I'm asking for a lot.

Anyway, here is hoping for the better!

KainXS · Mar 11, 2010, 11:18 PM

you sign up for those cards to review from the manufacturer or something, do you stll get to keep them like before.

SteelSix · Mar 11, 2010, 11:45 PM

Come on Newegg..

Zubasa · Mar 12, 2010, 12:21 AM

Medicore at best... LOL $500, what a nice buy.

lism · Mar 12, 2010, 05:42 AM

Basicly that silver edge protecting the core from being crushed is in the way?

I used to had this problem too on my older X800XT, that stupid thing was in the way for a heatsink to apply good enough without having extreme temperatures.

Also 1400+ on LN2 on Both Gpu/Mem is just outstanding. The rv870 is really a decent chip.

W1zzard · Mar 12, 2010, 07:07 AM

no, the silver shim is not in the way. the screw posts on the cooler are too long

overclocking101 · Mar 12, 2010, 07:23 AM

so msi put 2 8pins and with the power draw they pull it is unneccessary surprise much?? marketing gotta love it

BenchZowner · Mar 12, 2010, 08:38 AM

W1zzy you should edit the review where you quote Hipro5's posts to clarify that those clocks are for benchmarks and not 24/7 stable gaming because lots of people will get confused and think that those were 24/7 stable

HookeyStreet · Mar 12, 2010, 11:38 AM

Great review, as always. Thank you W1z. It looks like a VERY nice card

W1zzard · Mar 12, 2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

W1zzy you should edit the review where you quote Hipro5's posts to clarify that those clocks are for benchmarks and not 24/7 stable gaming because lots of people will get confused and think that those were 24/7 stable

with enough ln2 they are 24/7 stable :P

BenchZowner · Mar 12, 2010, 01:51 PM

A phase change capable to keep the card under load at -45C looks ok for 1250MHz 24/7

:
But the electricity bill disagrees

WarEagleAU · Mar 12, 2010, 03:06 PM

Wow, priced a bit more than I thought it would be, but seems to perform where I was expecting. And newegg is usually some of the lowest prices, so yeah I can see them marking it up to make some profits. Anyone think its to cover the losses of the cpus they had to overnight to everyone?

ok, bad joke, sorry.

HalfAHertz · Mar 13, 2010, 11:26 AM

Wasn't the lightning edition supposed to be at 1000MHz core at stock? I wonder why they scrapped the idea? I think this card doesn't stand out much compared to the default 5870.

Mescalamba · Mar 13, 2010, 05:30 PM

There isnt that much "good" cores for HD 5870 to make enough 1GHz series..

In fact there isnt much of them at all, 40nm proces still isnt flawless..

Results kinda as expected, tough disappointed by that cooler, I guess that even "cheap n stupid" Accelero would do better job.. I really wish that manufacturers start do make "naked" graphic cards.. and let us choose best cooler (Sapphire would make a fortune on that, imagine sells of Vapor-X cooler).

KoukiFC3S · Mar 14, 2010, 09:52 AM

I just got this card; but mine seems to be stuck at 1.125v.

Are you using Afterburner 1.5?

W1zzard · Mar 14, 2010, 10:58 AM

1.51 i think

KoukiFC3S · Mar 14, 2010, 03:08 PM

Can you guys upload this version?

MSI's website only has 1.5.

Thanks!

Easo · Mar 21, 2010, 03:20 PM

Any chance that on HD 6xxx Lightning (let the brand continue) we will see those 2 GHz?

Mescalamba · Mar 21, 2010, 03:29 PM

Zero.

Even 32nm would make it able to reach 1,5 GHz.. But 2GHz hardly.. only L2N. Plus its high probability, that HD 6XXX wont be just "die-shrink". I guess they will follow current architecture and simply "double" chips (chip from HD 5770 is exact half of what is in HD 5870, or if you want it other way.. HD 5870 is exact double of HD 5770). My guess is, that for example HD 6870 will be doubled HD 5870. But it can be even 4x as 32nm is really small.

Steevo · Mar 21, 2010, 06:41 PM

W1zz, did you see a rise in stable core clock with a decrease in temps at the same voltage?

Mar 9, 2010, 12:37 PM	#1
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Mar 11, 2010, 10:43 PM	#2
Kitkat Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 767 (0.52/day) Thanks: 44 Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts	plz tell me u have an 5870 asus top and your doing it next and soon rofl

Mar 11, 2010, 10:48 PM	#3
KainXS Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,694 (2.27/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 465 Times in 382 Posts System Specs	1100mhz on air, thats crazy

Mar 11, 2010, 11:18 PM	#7
KainXS Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,694 (2.27/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 465 Times in 382 Posts System Specs	you sign up for those cards to review from the manufacturer or something, do you stll get to keep them like before.

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Mar 12, 2010, 05:42 AM	#10
lism Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 131 (0.06/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	Basicly that silver edge protecting the core from being crushed is in the way? I used to had this problem too on my older X800XT, that stupid thing was in the way for a heatsink to apply good enough without having extreme temperatures. Also 1400+ on LN2 on Both Gpu/Mem is just outstanding. The rv870 is really a decent chip.

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Mar 13, 2010, 05:30 PM	#19
Mescalamba Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 196 (0.14/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	There isnt that much "good" cores for HD 5870 to make enough 1GHz series.. In fact there isnt much of them at all, 40nm proces still isnt flawless.. Results kinda as expected, tough disappointed by that cooler, I guess that even "cheap n stupid" Accelero would do better job.. I really wish that manufacturers start do make "naked" graphic cards.. and let us choose best cooler (Sapphire would make a fortune on that, imagine sells of Vapor-X cooler).

Mar 14, 2010, 09:52 AM	#20
KoukiFC3S Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 14 (0.01/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just got this card; but mine seems to be stuck at 1.125v. Are you using Afterburner 1.5?

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W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,770 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,218 Times in 3,161 Posts System Specs	1.51 i think

Mar 14, 2010, 03:08 PM	#22
KoukiFC3S Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 14 (0.01/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can you guys upload this version? MSI's website only has 1.5. Thanks!

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Mar 21, 2010, 03:29 PM	#24
Mescalamba Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 196 (0.14/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	Zero. Even 32nm would make it able to reach 1,5 GHz.. But 2GHz hardly.. only L2N. Plus its high probability, that HD 6XXX wont be just "die-shrink". I guess they will follow current architecture and simply "double" chips (chip from HD 5770 is exact half of what is in HD 5870, or if you want it other way.. HD 5870 is exact double of HD 5770). My guess is, that for example HD 6870 will be doubled HD 5870. But it can be even 4x as 32nm is really small.

Mar 21, 2010, 06:41 PM	#25
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