Help a noob OC his Pentium D 2.8Ghz PLEASE - Page 2

brandonwh64 · Mar 18, 2010, 08:54 PM

Is this what you motherboard looks like?

guitarfreaknation · Mar 18, 2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Is this what you motherboard looks like?

http://oemzone.com/images/catalog/Lithium.jpg

Correct. Looks just like it.

xrealm20 · Mar 18, 2010, 09:02 PM

Ok - you do have a PCIe board, but I'd highly suggest getting a new motherboard - probably a p35 based board, i'm sure you can find one here on the for sale forum thread. Are you planning on getting new ram? The DDR2 you have is running at DDR2 533. That will really hurt your overclocking posibilities. Look to see if you can pick up some cheap DDR2 800 or 1066.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 18, 2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xrealm20

Ok - you do have a PCIe board, but I'd highly suggest getting a new motherboard - probably a p35 based board, i'm sure you can find one here on the for sale forum thread. Are you planning on getting new ram? The DDR2 you have is running at DDR2 533. That will really hurt your overclocking posibilities. Look to see if you can pick up some cheap DDR2 800 or 1066.

Which ram is compatible with my pc? So that I dont purchase something I cant use.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 18, 2010, 09:08 PM

BTW, someone was asking about my CPU fan, well the stock one went kaput so I put in this one.

its a Thermaltake CL-P0378 Silent 775D CPU Fan

[I.R.A]_FBi · Mar 18, 2010, 09:09 PM

you dont have an intel board

guitarfreaknation · Mar 18, 2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

you dont have an intel board

I don't believe I said I did. You gentlemen know better what I have.

cliffmidnite · Mar 18, 2010, 09:51 PM

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/Real_Temp/I would also download realtemp and prime 95 http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103
Realtemp will tell you your cpu temps and use can use prime 95 to stress test your cpu at full load to see what your max temps are. Your cpu draws either 95 watts or 130, I cant remember which one. I had a pentium D 940 and they made two models. the firs was 130 watt and the refresh was 95 watt. I personally like to overclock for pure fun of pushing a cpu as far as possible. Like someone else said, if its an HP than there wont be any overclocking options. If you do have options than there will be a menu in the bios that allows you to adjust the front side bus and vcore(which is the cpu voltage). The stock cooler on my D 940 was the size of a Tuniq tower. Let us know what options you have in the bios. You can always go for a cheap intel p45 mobo and put the pentium D in that, but for $50 bucks you could get a 2.5ghz E5200 Dual Core that outperforms your pentium D by over 30% and uses half the watts. The E5200 is also an awesome processor for an overclocking noob. They can reach 4ghz and higher and if you fry it, well it was only 50 bucks. I ran one at 4ghz for a year before selling it.

brandonwh64 · Mar 18, 2010, 10:00 PM

realtemp doesnt work for Pentium Ds

you need HWmonitor to see the temp. already went through this with my PD 830

Nick89 · Mar 18, 2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarfreaknation

Yeah but I have a 9800 GTX+ that I need to install when I get a new power supply. Im just trying to get all I can out of the pc.

One thing, You wont be able to use the 9800GTX+ because it uses PCI-E expansion slots and your motherboard only has an AGP expansion slot. You would need a motherboard with PCI-E slots.

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick89

One thing, You wont be able to use the 9800GTX+ because it uses PCI-E expansion slots and your motherboard only has an AGP expansion slot. You would need a motherboard with PCI-E slots.

the picture above shows PCI-E to me, as well as the fact his 8500GT never came out in AGP to my knowledge...

DirectorC · Mar 19, 2010, 02:37 AM

I would have just told OP to build or buy a new computer from the very start.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 05:54 AM

Appreciate all the input. So I should get rid of the 9800 GTX?

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarfreaknation

Appreciate all the input. So I should get rid of the 9800 GTX?

No, its fine. Some people mistakenly assumed your motherboard had AGP and not PCI-E, so the card will work.

The problem is that while you WILL get a big speed boost from your 8500, you will not get all the cards performance due to your CPU holding it back.

IMO, as long as your power supply is good enough use the 9800GT for now - and work on getting a new motherboard/CPU/ram combo in the near future, and move the 9800GT to that.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

No, its fine. Some people mistakenly assumed your motherboard had AGP and not PCI-E, so the card will work.

The problem is that while you WILL get a big speed boost from your 8500, you will not get all the cards performance due to your CPU holding it back.

IMO, as long as your power supply is good enough use the 9800GT for now - and work on getting a new motherboard/CPU/ram combo in the near future, and move the 9800GT to that.

Hey thanks for clearing that. Yeah I am currently not working so all my money goes into my guitar stuff.

I just found this for 400 bucks and I am thinking of getting it.

Rosewill case
Gigabyte motherboard GA-EP45T-UD3P
4 gigs of DDR 3 1066
Intel core 2 quad q9550 2.83 ghz
BFG 9600 GT 512 meg
Antec 550 watt Modular power supply
120 gig Western digital hard drive

It is an SLI MoBo, can I SLI two different Video Cards? (8500GT & 9800GTX)

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 07:12 AM

Also found this system. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/sys/1640353983.html

IF anyone can give me some input on the two I would really appreciate it.

DirectorC · Mar 19, 2010, 07:13 AM

400 for all that? Suspicious, they are basically selling it for the cost of CPU, memory, and mobo. Though, those are really the only things worth much in there.

You can't SLI two cards with different GPU chip, and that is not a SLI mobo anyway, it's a Crossfire mobo. Unless you feel like using the hacks that make SLI work on P45 chipsets.

Either way, if I were you I would jump on that, just ditch the 9600 for the 9800. You can then sell the 9600, probably on the for sale section on these forums.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

realtemp doesnt work for Pentium Ds

you need HWmonitor to see the temp. already went through this with my PD 830

Yeah I just found out for myself.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DirectorC

400 for all that? Suspicious, they are basically selling it for the cost of CPU, memory, and mobo. Though, those are really the only things worth much in there.

You can't SLI two cards with different GPU chip, and that is not a SLI mobo anyway, it's a Crossfire mobo. Unless you feel like using the hacks that make SLI work on P45 chipsets.

Either way, if I were you I would jump on that, just ditch the 9600 for the 9800. You can then sell the 9600, probably on the for sale section on these forums.

He. Yeah im not PC excerpt but i went on newegg and other sites to find the prices to see that it was a good deal. What did you think about the one on craigslist that I put a link to?

DirectorC · Mar 19, 2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarfreaknation

He. Yeah im not PC excerpt but i went on newegg and other sites to find the prices to see that it was a good deal. What did you think about the one on craigslist that I put a link to?

It's pretty good. It's not the newest thing around, but it is no slug either. Quad core is pretty good even though it's old, the 8800GT is great also even though it's old it can still play pretty much any game, 4GB of RAM and a Blu-Ray drive are nice features. Straight out of the box this system is better for games. But the first system has more long-term potential. Q9500 series processors get pretty close to i7, and that EP45T-UD3P supports DDR3 which is nice. It's up to you and how much money you want to spend and what your upgrade path is.

Edit: However I think getting the Q9550 system will be both more cost-effective and way more future proof. Just add a 9800 or better video card and you're set.

Thrackan · Mar 19, 2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarfreaknation

Yeah I just found out for myself.

So what are your temps?

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010, 12:28 PM

SLI requires two identical cards - you cannot mix and match.

brandonwh64 · Mar 19, 2010, 02:02 PM

Download this. it should tell you the temp. just post a screenie of it

http://www.cpuid.com/download/hwmoni...onitor_115.zip

ALSO

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarfreaknation

I just found this for 400 bucks and I am thinking of getting it.

Rosewill case
Gigabyte motherboard GA-EP45T-UD3P
4 gigs of DDR 3 1066
Intel core 2 quad q9550 2.83 ghz
BFG 9600 GT 512 meg
Antec 550 watt Modular power supply
120 gig Western digital hard drive

It is an SLI MoBo, can I SLI two different Video Cards? (8500GT & 9800GTX)

If this isnt a CL scam then i would go for it!

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Download this. it should tell you the temp. just post a screenie of it

http://www.cpuid.com/download/hwmoni...onitor_115.zip

ALSO

If this isnt a CL scam then i would go for it!

Ok. Yeah I just contacted the guy. He said he will demo it for me this weekend.

guitarfreaknation · Mar 19, 2010, 05:08 PM

Ok this is a screen of it not stressed.

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Mar 18, 2010, 09:02 PM	#28
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Mar 18, 2010, 09:51 PM	#33
cliffmidnite Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts	pentium D 820 http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/Real_Temp/I would also download realtemp and prime 95 http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103 Realtemp will tell you your cpu temps and use can use prime 95 to stress test your cpu at full load to see what your max temps are. Your cpu draws either 95 watts or 130, I cant remember which one. I had a pentium D 940 and they made two models. the firs was 130 watt and the refresh was 95 watt. I personally like to overclock for pure fun of pushing a cpu as far as possible. Like someone else said, if its an HP than there wont be any overclocking options. If you do have options than there will be a menu in the bios that allows you to adjust the front side bus and vcore(which is the cpu voltage). The stock cooler on my D 940 was the size of a Tuniq tower. Let us know what options you have in the bios. You can always go for a cheap intel p45 mobo and put the pentium D in that, but for $50 bucks you could get a 2.5ghz E5200 Dual Core that outperforms your pentium D by over 30% and uses half the watts. The E5200 is also an awesome processor for an overclocking noob. They can reach 4ghz and higher and if you fry it, well it was only 50 bucks. I ran one at 4ghz for a year before selling it.

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Mar 19, 2010, 05:54 AM	#38
guitarfreaknation Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 567 (0.49/day) Thanks: 545 Thanked 56 Times in 44 Posts System Specs	Appreciate all the input. So I should get rid of the 9800 GTX?

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guitarfreaknation Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 567 (0.49/day) Thanks: 545 Thanked 56 Times in 44 Posts System Specs	Also found this system. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/sys/1640353983.html IF anyone can give me some input on the two I would really appreciate it.

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DirectorC Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florizy Posts: 1,597 (1.24/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 269 Times in 248 Posts System Specs	400 for all that? Suspicious, they are basically selling it for the cost of CPU, memory, and mobo. Though, those are really the only things worth much in there. You can't SLI two cards with different GPU chip, and that is not a SLI mobo anyway, it's a Crossfire mobo. Unless you feel like using the hacks that make SLI work on P45 chipsets. Either way, if I were you I would jump on that, just ditch the 9600 for the 9800. You can then sell the 9600, probably on the for sale section on these forums.

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