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Old Mar 18, 2010, 10:40 PM   #101
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The way I see it is that nvidia is going for a multipurpose card. Much like acid and mkmods have said. If you said up fermi as a cruncher you can turn off your water heater and place the tank near the exhaust vents of the card. Voila you now have no gas bill for heating water and you get hot showers! Is your house cold in the winter? Buy the fermi and heat your house WHILE killing people in BC2 for the cost of JUST killing people in BC2. Awesome

I'll stick w/ my 5850 toxic though. I lovez it
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The only other way that they can put the decimal point is to the right, and that will make it an 18.0A fan.
I am sure we humans will not hear the fan itself anymore. The noise is most likely ultrasound

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Holy shit, 296W TDP? An Radeon HD5970 has a TDP of 294W. And we know that the GTX 480 WON'T outperform the 5970. Nvidia fail?
I'm amazed that you can look into your crystal ball and foresee that the GTX480 won't outperform the 5970. Really. That's incredible. How can it be that you are so certain of this so-called "fact" while the d@mned card hasn't reached any reviewer yet? Or perhaps you have someone on the inside feeding you this interesting piece of information? Sources, as usual, are deeply appreciated. Not that you might be wrong, but many people say many things without backing them up.
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No, ATi advertises the HD5870 as having a TDP of 188w, in reality it pulls ~212w under load, if you don't believe me go look at some reviews.

I'm assuming max power draw possible here with the GTX480 of 300w to get an 88w difference, however the article and leaked information actually put it in the 395w range. And 212w is just the reference design, we have already seen partners release HD5870s that are pulling over 230w.

For those of you that don't like to be bothered to read real reviews:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Powercolor...er_maximum.gif
What I find odd about that graph is the 5850 only pulling 150 while the 5870 pulls 212. I wonder if you can run a non-overclocked 5870 on one connector. Anyone wanna bet you can?

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Seems we have another 5800 on our hands.

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Do you even own a 5800 series card? They are quiet as hell.
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Yep, and the HD4870x2 is pulling well over 380w, despite the 300w limit it should be adhering to.

So where does that leave us? Where we started, knowing nothing about the actual power consumption of the GTX480.
that would be related to furmark drawing excessive power on 48x0 series cards. i get over 100W more in power draw in furmark than i do in any other GPU stress test + CPU test combined.

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Do you even own a 5800 series card? They are quiet as hell.
he means geforce FX 5800 ultra
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It is 2003 all over again...

I wonder if there will be 3d mark optimisations* this time?








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The HD5870 is 188W TDP!
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Use 5870 during summer, then GTX480 during winter. I dont understand why they are releasing GTX480 when summer is coming though.
you aint lyin! Last year my gtx 275 caused my window AC to condensate.

They have to be out of their friggin minds coming out with something this power hungry and this hot.. 7-8 months after ATI.. technology is supposed to advance overtime, this looks nothing like advancement.
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The HD5870 is 188W TDP!
Well TDP is thermal design power, so power consumption can actually higher.
The only thing we know right now is the Fermi will be a damn hot card.
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lol ive been trying to find that video i posted about a month ago that is a joke and shows the gta 4 game being run on fermi then the computer pops and explodes into sparks and smoke.. no luck.. was funny as hell though
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Leaked Fermi 470 and 480 specs and pricing

Leaked Fermi 470, 480 specs and pricing:
470 TDP 225 US$349,
480 TDP 295 US$499.

Single Fermi GPU 480 TDP is close to TDP of ATI dual 5870 GPU the 5970. The performance of Nvidia Fermi 470 VS ATI 5850 and 480 VS 5870 is 5% - 10% faster than ATI respectfully.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-g...aled/8635.html

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I feel for the people in the US who have that horrid 150v power supply.
Huh? It's 110-120v here and there's no reason to feel bad for us. Typical household breakers are rated to 15A so so we've still got room for tri SLI

That TDP is disgusting. It's also running way behind schedule and with lower yields and a partially disabled flagship chip. I'm all for healthy competition and choice, but nVidia missed it's mark this time. I hope they can make up some lost ground with their mid and low range options. Also what happened to the 3xx series? They just get cut?
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Huh? It's 110-120v here and there's no reason to feel bad for us. Typical household breakers are rated to 15A so so we've still got room for tri SLI

That TDP is disgusting. It's also running way behind schedule and with lower yields and a partially disabled flagship chip. I'm all for healthy competition and choice, but nVidia missed it's mark this time. I hope they can make up some lost ground with their mid and low range options. Also what happened to the 3xx series? They just get cut?
Their mobile DX10 chips were named the 300 series, a thread a while back said that Nvidia claimed their OEM partners pressured them into renaming Fermi into the 4xx series.
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Do you realize that the GTX 295 rated at 289W TDP is already pulling 320Ws in that graph?
Both nVidia and ATi rate their TDP by typical use, not "power virus" draw.

Unless the only thing you do is looking at the furry dounut the whole day, this is the graph to look for:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/EAH_5...power_peak.gif
for some reason i can picture someone sitting there looking at the furry dounut for a whole day, and for some reason i cannot stop laughing at this thought
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5-10% FASTER BLAH BLAH

NEED BIGGER PSU BLAH BLAH

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$100-$200 MORE $$ BLAH BLAH

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It says Fastest GPU in the world!!! Really?
If its 5%-10% faster than the 5870 like what they state, then yeah..
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If its 5%-10% faster than the 5870 like what they state, then yeah..
10% faster
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I'm amazed that you can look into your crystal ball and foresee that the GTX480 won't outperform the 5970. Really. That's incredible. How can it be that you are so certain of this so-called "fact" while the d@mned card hasn't reached any reviewer yet? Or perhaps you have someone on the inside feeding you this interesting piece of information? Sources, as usual, are deeply appreciated. Not that you might be wrong, but many people say many things without backing them up.
I'm not an expert in GPUs, but I know, that it's damn right impossible to beat the other companies dual-GPU card with a single-GPU card, when both use the same manufacturing process (40nm). You can be a Nvidia fanboy all you want, but let me tell you, Nvidia is good, but it can't pull magic tricks out of it's pocket. No, I don't have any proof or sources, I'm just speculating and thinking using my brain. As far as I know, that's what the forum is for; so that people can come and say their opinions, thoughts and speculations. There is free speech in TPU, and I can pretty much say what ever I want, even though it's full of crap.
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I'm not an expert in GPUs, but I know, that it's damn right impossible to beat the other companies dual-GPU card with a single-GPU card, when both use the same manufacturing process (40nm). You can be a Nvidia fanboy all you want, but let me tell you, Nvidia is good, but it can't pull magic tricks out of it's pocket. No, I don't have any proof or sources, I'm just speculating and thinking using my brain. As far as I know, that's what the forum is for; so that people can come and say their opinions, thoughts and speculations. There is free speech in TPU, and I can pretty much say what ever I want, even though it's full of crap.
actually, you can only say what you want within our guidelines
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actually, you can only say what you want within our guidelines
Yep, but I did mean within the subject and not offensive or otherwise outside TPUs guidelines

But thanks for reminding me that there's going to be a moderator up my @ss if I post something offensive. Not that I was going to...
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What I find odd about that graph is the 5850 only pulling 150 while the 5870 pulls 212. I wonder if you can run a non-overclocked 5870 on one connector. Anyone wanna bet you can?



Do you even own a 5800 series card? They are quiet as hell.
That is a non-overclocked HD5870, the reference design actually. The voltages required to reach the HD5870 clock speeds stable, along with all 1600 Shaders, really ups the power draw.

Quiet as hell? I have to run the HD5870 we have at work at 100% fan speed to keep temps under 80°C, and it sounds like a damn leaf blower.

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that would be related to furmark drawing excessive power on 48x0 series cards. i get over 100W more in power draw in furmark than i do in any other GPU stress test + CPU test combined.



he means geforce FX 5800 ultra
I don't see what the HD48x0 series has to do with the power draw on the HD58x0 series. Furmark does max out the load on the GPU, that is why we are looking at the Maximum power draw, it does it for every GPU, it isn't like it is unfair for ATi cards...
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That is a non-overclocked HD5870, the reference design actually. The voltages required to reach the HD5870 clock speeds stable, along with all 1600 Shaders, really ups the power draw.

Quiet as hell? I have to run the HD5870 we have at work at 100% fan speed to keep temps under 80°C, and it sounds like a damn leaf blower.
I don't think it needs THAT much of a power draw to be stable and if you need to run it at 100% fan to keep it under 80c than you ether have the card WAY OC beyond its capabilities or something is wrong with the card.
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