FRAGnSTEIN & X Scorch 360: wireless mice for the PS3 & XBOX 360

HookeyStreet · Mar 22, 2010, 04:29 PM

These look pretty cool:

http://www.bannco.com/

The 'X Scorch 360' in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIYfY95Ez8s

epicfail · Mar 22, 2010, 04:32 PM

Question isnt the reason people game and do stuff on xbox is because they dont like the mice for gaming?

kurosagi01 · Mar 22, 2010, 04:33 PM

yeah thats true lol,the concept is kinda weird though

HookeyStreet · Mar 22, 2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by epicfail

Question isnt the reason people game and do stuff on xbox is because they dont like the mice for gaming?

Ermmm, no, not really. Im used to playing FPS's on the console with a pad now, but it will NEVER compare to using a mouse. But a pad is essential for car games and beat'em ups etc, not a mouse.

LifeOnMars · Mar 22, 2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

Ermmm, no, not really. Im used to playing FPS's on the console with a pad now, but it will NEVER compare to using a mouse. But a pad is essential for car games and beat'em ups etc, not a mouse.

I must admit though, its nice having the rumble effect when firing your guns or driving around a race track, I use the Xbox 360 controller for Borderlands on the PC and Dirt 2.

ShiBDiB · Mar 22, 2010, 05:46 PM

another jab at pc gaming... i hate consoles

Reefer86 · Mar 22, 2010, 05:53 PM

nah its for those idiots that think that an xbox 360 is 10 times more powerful the any pc.

Also you could see the sensitivity on that mouse was god awful even compared to an old ball mouse.
Nothing like a 'real' mouse if u ask me

Kenshai · Mar 22, 2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefer86

nah its for those idiots that think that an xbox 360 is 10 times more powerful the any pc.

Also you could see the sensitivity on that mouse was god awful even compared to an old ball mouse.
Nothing like a 'real' mouse if u ask me

You can adjust DPI in the software on pc, I assume it saves it to the firmware and ups it in game.

HookeyStreet · Mar 22, 2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefer86

nah its for those idiots that think that an xbox 360 is 10 times more powerful the any pc.

I hope you dont mean me

epicfail · Mar 22, 2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

I hope you dont mean me

nah i think you no your place

lmao but seriously a guy i talk to sometimes when he comes were i work was like how do you play on the computer games look like so much crap on it,

i made him come to my house just to proove him wrong, lmao it was kind of funny, he was in awe and i was like so hows your xbox graphics dude

HookeyStreet · Mar 22, 2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by epicfail

nah i think you no your place

lmao but seriously a guy i talk to sometimes when he comes were i work was like how do you play on the computer games look like so much crap on it,

i made him come to my house just to proove him wrong, lmao it was kind of funny, he was in awe and i was like so hows your xbox graphics dude

I only console game because of exclusive titles (God Of War etc), convenience (less space taken up) and price. I would love to have the time/cash to build a gaming rig again

JanJan · Mar 22, 2010, 07:45 PM

i thought of crotch

epicfail · Mar 22, 2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

I only console game because of exclusive titles (God Of War etc), convenience (less space taken up) and price. I would love to have the time/cash to build a gaming rig again

all good man, just though id say those people that think that xbox360 and ps3 are superior in graphics and customizable compared to pc make me laugh

Taz100420 · Mar 22, 2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by epicfail

all good man, just though id say those people that think that xbox360 and ps3 are superior in graphics and customizable compared to pc make me laugh

I remember when the PS3 slims came out and a dude never had a PS3 b4 this was telling me how he thought that PS3 looked better than a computer and I made him eat his words when I was there with my comp with the same games side by side lol.

epicfail · Mar 22, 2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz100420

I remember when the PS3 slims came out and a dude never had a PS3 b4 this was telling me how he thought that PS3 looked better than a computer and I made him eat his words when I was there with my comp with the same games side by side lol.

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nah i think you no your place

lmao but seriously a guy i talk to sometimes when he comes were i work was like how do you play on the computer games look like so much crap on it,

i made him come to my house just to proove him wrong, lmao it was kind of funny, he was in awe and i was like so hows your xbox graphics dude

you should of quoted that post instead

but ya it was funny as hell i was like ya okay there kid, 500 fps on cod mw2 on max, and his measly 60 with worse graphics.
his response was not everyone has computers like yours, i just said mine was a crappy build compared to other people.

HookeyStreet · Mar 22, 2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz100420

I remember when the PS3 slims came out and a dude never had a PS3 b4 this was telling me how he thought that PS3 looked better than a computer and I made him eat his words when I was there with my comp with the same games side by side lol.

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Originally Posted by epicfail

you should of quoted that post instead

but ya it was funny as hell i was like ya okay there kid, 500 fps on cod mw2 on max, and his measly 60 with worse graphics.
his response was not everyone has computers like yours, i just said mine was a crappy build compared to other people.

What we have to remember is the fact that some people dont know about how good a PC can be for gaming. The general public only go by what they are told in stores like PC World. They walk in looking for a PC, the member of staff, that TBH, knows fuck all about gaming (most of the time) tells them that a factory built POS with onboard graphics will run games great.

They get home, all happy with there new £1000 PC and try to play Crysis, BAD MOVE! The PC basically says 'fuck you' and runs it as smooth as treacle. The said person goes from

to

BUT, this same person, pops a game like God Of War 3 into his nice new PS3 Slim, connects it to his nice new 1080p LCD TV and thinks WOW, that looks the bollox! (and rightly so, its superb!)

So whos to blame? The uneducated public (lets face it, we all start somewhere when it comes to PC's lol) or the arsehole @ PC World that mislead the customer and put him off PC gaming for life?

digibucc · Mar 22, 2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

What we have to remember is the fact that some people dont know about how good a PC can be for gaming. The general public only go by what they are told in stores like PC World. They walk in looking for a PC, the member of staff, that TBH, knows fuck all about gaming (most of the time) tells them that a factory built POS with onboard graphics will run games great.

They get home, all happy with there new £1000 PC and try to play Crysis, BAD MOVE! The PC basically says 'fuck you' and runs it as smooth as treacle. The said person goes from

to

BUT, this same person, pops a game like God Of War 3 into his nice new PS3 Slim, connects it to his nice new 1080p LCD TV and thinks WOW, that looks the bollox! (and rightly so, its superb!)

So whos to blame? The uneducated public (lets face it, we all start somewhere when it comes to PC's lol) or the arsehole @ PC World that mislead the customer and put him off PC gaming for life?

QFT

it's the uneducated masses to blame... there will always be those trying to mislead. you have to be intelligent and aware enough to be responsible for yourself. the thing that sucks is their misdeeds affect us all by proxy. if facts actually mattered we would have PC games that actually make use of the PC, instead of treating it as another console to port to.

WhiteNoise · Mar 22, 2010, 09:42 PM

I own the FragFX for the PS3. its exactly the same thing as the brand you posted.

I bought it because I HATE playing fps games on a console with a standard console pad. In fact I have skipped over many good titles because of this fact.

Once I bought my FragFX I was able to play these games for the first time and it was close to the same effect as a true mouse and keyboard provides. When I play friends they think I'm cheating because my aim so so spot on.

digibucc · Mar 22, 2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteNoise

I own the FragFX for the PS3. its exactly the same thing as the brand you posted.

I bought it because I HATE playing fps games on a console with a standard console pad. In fact I have skipped over many good titles because of this fact.

Once I bought my FragFX I was able to play these games for the first time and it was close to the same effect as a true mouse and keyboard provides. When I play friends they think I'm cheating because my aim so so spot on.

not exactly the same. from what I read the fragnstein is better. and fragfx seems to have some shady marketing

can't argue with experience though... if it's good it's good

I have been wondering, and wanting to get one for awhile. For exclusive shooters on my PS3

WhiteNoise · Mar 22, 2010, 09:54 PM

What makes the Fragnstein better exactly? I ask because I'll buy it if its that much better.

Kenshai · Mar 22, 2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteNoise

What makes the Fragnstein better exactly? I ask because I'll buy it if its that much better.

Honestly, if you don't have any issues with what you're using why switch?

HookeyStreet · Mar 22, 2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by digibucc

QFT

it's the uneducated masses to blame... there will always be those trying to mislead. you have to be intelligent and aware enough to be responsible for yourself. the thing that sucks is their misdeeds affect us all by proxy. if facts actually mattered we would have PC games that actually make use of the PC, instead of treating it as another console to port to.

I agree 110% m8. The PC gamer is being shit on from a great height. A lot of PC gamers blame the console user for this. But its the game devs/publishers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteNoise

I own the FragFX for the PS3. its exactly the same thing as the brand you posted.

I bought it because I HATE playing fps games on a console with a standard console pad. In fact I have skipped over many good titles because of this fact.

Once I bought my FragFX I was able to play these games for the first time and it was close to the same effect as a true mouse and keyboard provides. When I play friends they think I'm cheating because my aim so so spot on.

Cool, sounds good.

WhiteNoise · Mar 22, 2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshai

Honestly, if you don't have any issues with what you're using why switch?

Because its better? Plus mine is wired and I was thinking about buying the wireless FragFX but if this other brand is even better then I may as well buy it instead.

digibucc · Mar 22, 2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteNoise

What makes the Fragnstein better exactly? I ask because I'll buy it if its that much better.

from what i gather it's overall manufacturing quality is better. a lot of the stuff being said about for example it's sensitivity settings are not true. you can change it's sensitivity on the fly, you don't need to plug it into a computer.

truthfully i can't find a whole ton of info on either of them, which is what is making the decision so hard.

WhiteNoise · Mar 22, 2010, 10:33 PM

Well my FragFX has sensitivity adjustment on the fly, actually a couple adjustments on the fly and it does not need to be hooked up to a pc either. I wonder what that is about...

I have two complaints about mine:

1. it's wired (but they do make a wireless model)
2. the mouse can have a bit o lag on some games. Not really lag but a jerky kinda feeling. Not all games have this though. KillZone does. Bad Company does not. I have no idea what causes this.

Keep in mind that this is not a true mouse per say; it's a mouse that acts as the 'right' analog stick of the game controller.

Knowing that you should expect the movement and turning to act just like the controller analog stick does. Slow. Cranking up the sensitivity helps a lot but its still no where near as quick as a pc mouse.

Aiming is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier though. It truly makes fps games awesome to play on the console. Not as good as on a pc though.

You will need a lap table to use it properly.

Mar 22, 2010, 04:29 PM	#1
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WhiteNoise Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 962 (0.62/day) Thanks: 157 Thanked 198 Times in 149 Posts System Specs	Well my FragFX has sensitivity adjustment on the fly, actually a couple adjustments on the fly and it does not need to be hooked up to a pc either. I wonder what that is about... I have two complaints about mine: 1. it's wired (but they do make a wireless model) 2. the mouse can have a bit o lag on some games. Not really lag but a jerky kinda feeling. Not all games have this though. KillZone does. Bad Company does not. I have no idea what causes this. Keep in mind that this is not a true mouse per say; it's a mouse that acts as the 'right' analog stick of the game controller. Knowing that you should expect the movement and turning to act just like the controller analog stick does. Slow. Cranking up the sensitivity helps a lot but its still no where near as quick as a pc mouse. Aiming is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier though. It truly makes fps games awesome to play on the console. Not as good as on a pc though. You will need a lap table to use it properly.

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