AMD Phenom II X6 PIB Units Pictured, Turbo Core Technology Detailed - Page 2

(FIH) The Don · Apr 12, 2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm-adph

Nah, I think I'll take one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819105267

remember you need a MB with a G34 socket for that cpu

$immond$ · Apr 12, 2010, 02:00 PM

I hope to see some benches that will punch Intel in the nose!, (probably wont happen lol) Well I hope these are going to be fast CPU's my server could use a nice upgrade from the Athlon 630 processor it is currently using.

Mussels · Apr 12, 2010, 03:13 PM

500Mhz boost is nice.

hell, i might settle for the quad core version.

(FIH) The Don · Apr 12, 2010, 03:14 PM

ye, you might be able to unlock it

btarunr · Apr 12, 2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

500Mhz boost is nice.

hell, i might settle for the quad core version.

That's what most people will do...and unlock the remaining cores. It's just that I wouldn't expect a Black Edition Zosma chip.

Mussels · Apr 12, 2010, 03:20 PM

i dont even care for the unlocking, i'm all about power efficiency...

1GHz at idle (cores disabled?)
3GHz quad average/encoding
3.5Ghz dual core when gaming/older games

something akin to that, really appeals to me - a system that modifies itself based on your realtime needs.

(FIH) The Don · Apr 12, 2010, 03:21 PM

+ its affordable

Mussels · Apr 12, 2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by (FIH) The Don

+ its affordable

damn right. i can build an AMD rig (mobo + CPU + ram) for the price of a decent intel CPU.

(FIH) The Don · Apr 12, 2010, 03:26 PM

as i said before, i hope the price will be reduced a little as we saw it with the other pII's, then ill get one for the new gaming rig and retire the i7 for crunching

ASharp · Apr 12, 2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

LOL @ Intel fans who do not know AMD use to make Intels

As for the box it is not all that much different then the PHII boxes a little lighter shade of blue to tell them apart on shelf.

[deity] forbid that AMD would use a blue box. How will I ever tell them apart now?

Honestly though, if you can't tell the difference between an Intel and an AMD processor box, you probably wouldn't be buying a six core anyhow.

Mussels · Apr 12, 2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ASharp

[deity] forbid that AMD would use a blue box. How will I ever tell them apart now?

Honestly though, if you can't tell the difference between an Intel and an AMD processor box, you probably wouldn't be buying a six core anyhow.

i'm not sure man, that giant AMD logo in the middle is confusing.

(FIH) The Don · Apr 12, 2010, 04:08 PM

its a trick done by Intel, they put the AMD logo on their new boxes to get more ppl to buy their cpus

suraswami · Apr 12, 2010, 05:15 PM

hmm only 3 cores gets the turbo boost out of 6 cores. Will be interesting to see Windows keeps the game running on those boosted cores rather than on the slow cores (not sure how this will be implemented tho), may be the boosting jumps cores when the game jumps to that core (or some event in the game uses that core).

eagerly waiting for reviews.

theonedub · Apr 12, 2010, 05:30 PM

I think 6 physical cores should out perform 4 physical and 4 HT. Almost certain I am going to sell my i7 and pick up one of these instead.

When Frys starts selling them I am going to pick up two

dumo · Apr 12, 2010, 05:57 PM

Already benched

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=249434

Radical_Edward · Apr 12, 2010, 06:08 PM

Do want.

HalfAHertz · Apr 12, 2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

500Mhz boost is nice.

hell, i might settle for the quad core version.

I'm really interested in that too. Anand said that only 3 cores need to be idle on the x6, does that mean that the x4 chips will need only 1 idling core for turbo boost to be active?
And I think it's high time for some good old CPU drivers from AMD/Intel. It's obvious that MS isn't going to do anything to address thread management, even in win 7 i see thread bouncing to inactive cores...If this is Microsoft's solution for average load over the CPU I'd like an option to regulate it or disable it in the next SP...

Polarman · Apr 12, 2010, 08:17 PM

I don't really care about the box itself. Ditto for the stock cooler.

TheGuruStud · Apr 12, 2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm-adph

Nah, I think I'll take one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819105267

need those in desktop form ASAP!

LAN_deRf_HA · Apr 12, 2010, 10:18 PM

I think a lot of people will be disappointed with how little performance boost you get from 2 more cores, large increases will be limited to a few applications. The $200 one will be worth it, but with the $300 black edition you'll be better off getting an i7 920/930 for the same price.

TheGuruStud · Apr 12, 2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA

I think a lot of people will be disappointed with how little performance boost you get from 2 more cores, large increases will be limited to a few applications. The $200 one will be worth it, but with the $300 black edition you'll be better off getting an i7 920/930 for the same price.

And go to the dark side? NEVAR!

I wouldn't mind having one if I actually encoded anymore. CCE would love 6 cores, especially overclocked

FreedomEclipse · Apr 12, 2010, 10:29 PM

but wouldnt overclocking negitate the turbo core feature for enthusiast/power users??

crazyeyesreaper · Apr 12, 2010, 10:43 PM

hmm someone over to XS got a x6 and it seems in winrar its 50% faster then a q9550 at 3.8ghz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=249434

FreedomEclipse · Apr 12, 2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

hmm someone over to XS got a x6 and it seems in winrar its 50% faster then a q9550 at 3.8ghz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=249434

well I suppose thats not too bad - seeing as a Q9550 is only a quad - when it comes to compression more cores = more win

crazyeyesreaper · Apr 12, 2010, 10:59 PM

well were talking stock Phenom II x6 at 2.8ghz vs a Q9550 at 3.8 1ghz difference and the PII is still 50-60% faster granted said user with the x6 is also using a 32bit os so its not a great comparison but intresting none the less

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FreedomEclipse Crazy Dogmatic Bullsh!t! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: (British Born Chinese) London, United Kingdom Posts: 7,514 (3.38/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 1,597 Times in 1,280 Posts System Specs	but wouldnt overclocking negitate the turbo core feature for enthusiast/power users?? __________________ “I used to be a serial upgrader like you, then i took a downgrade to the knee” -FreedomEclipse

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crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,010 (3.96/day) Thanks: 760 Thanked 2,219 Times in 1,556 Posts System Specs	hmm someone over to XS got a x6 and it seems in winrar its 50% faster then a q9550 at 3.8ghz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=249434

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Apr 12, 2010, 10:59 PM	#50
crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,010 (3.96/day) Thanks: 760 Thanked 2,219 Times in 1,556 Posts System Specs	well were talking stock Phenom II x6 at 2.8ghz vs a Q9550 at 3.8 1ghz difference and the PII is still 50-60% faster granted said user with the x6 is also using a 32bit os so its not a great comparison but intresting none the less

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