BitSquid "Stone Giant" DX11 demo... - Page 2

Lionheart · Apr 16, 2010, 11:45 AM

Hey guys, just wanted to know if anyone has used these before, they aren't benchmarks, just graphic demo's and quiet nice too.

http://developer.amd.com/samples/dem...timedemos.aspx

OnBoard · Apr 16, 2010, 06:59 PM

Yep, I do load every new demo from ATI/NVIDIA when I go for new graphics card/make. Installed my card 2 days ago and run the demos yeasterday

Ladybug was nice, but the other one a bit boring. NVIDIA hair demo seemed more impressive.

SUPERREDDEVIL · Apr 21, 2010, 11:38 PM

Tested all demos from AMD/ATI, really awesome, really heavy, you can test fully your machine with this ones, not only your graphics card, uses a lot of processor and memory, give it a try, you will not be dissapointed

LagunaX · Apr 21, 2010, 11:59 PM

Someone upload it megaupload or some host so I can try it - not a torrent guy...

EDIT: Nevermind - officially released at:
http://www.stonegiant.se/

Apa · Apr 22, 2010, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagunaX

Someone upload it megaupload or some host so I can try it - not a torrent guy...

EDIT: Nevermind - officially released at:
http://www.stonegiant.se/

Meh and here I was uploading it to both rapidshare and megaupload for you. :P

Anyway, here's the links just in case you are getting slow DL speed from their website.

http://rapidshare.com/files/37862935...etup.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/37863231...etup.part2.rar

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UMVZV517

LagunaX · Apr 22, 2010, 01:23 AM

Thank you very much Apa for your time and effort.
I'll DL from your rapidshare as a free user to get u points =)

SUPERREDDEVIL · Apr 22, 2010, 01:25 AM

Tnx for megaupload dude

cheers

RejZoR · Apr 22, 2010, 05:25 AM

Cool. Gotta try it when i get from work.

W1zzard · Apr 22, 2010, 06:38 AM

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...DX11_Demo.html

Binge · Apr 22, 2010, 07:07 AM

This is a nice demo. There's a great amount of tessellation but it runs well at just about any resolution. Probably due to the lack of AA/AF, but still pretty gorgeous.

RejZoR · Apr 22, 2010, 04:44 PM

I'm just wondering one thing around all this "tessellation" mumbo jumbo. Isn't tessellation suppose to work this way:

When something is viewed at close range (from viewport), you get loads of polygons, when object goes away from the viewport, polys decrease. This is suppose to work dynamically just like old model LOD. Just fully dynamic and much more flexible.

But from my observation, they are using tessellation on EVERYTHING regardless of "true" distance, they just increase polygons on EVERYTHING even more when you get closer. That kinda defeats a purpose of even doing tessellation, doesn't it? I mean, with it, you could pump out incredible facial animations and detailed objects in front of you without sacrificing any performance or even gaining some. Who cares about distant polygons that are blured by DOF anyway and you are focused on object in front of you anyway. Stuff far away behind it should have really low poly count and power should be shifted to objects in front where you want and expect detail. But now, framerate just goes doooooown. Like they are all thrilled by the technology but no one is using it properly.

W1zzard · Apr 22, 2010, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RejZoR

I'm just wondering one thing around all this "tessellation" mumbo jumbo. Isn't tessellation suppose to work this way:

When something is viewed at close range (from viewport), you get loads of polygons, when object goes away from the viewport, polys decrease. This is suppose to work dynamically just like old model LOD. Just fully dynamic and much more flexible.

But from my observation, they are using tessellation on EVERYTHING regardless of "true" distance, they just increase polygons on EVERYTHING even more when you get closer. That kinda defeats a purpose of even doing tessellation, doesn't it? I mean, with it, you could pump out incredible facial animations and detailed objects in front of you without sacrificing any performance or even gaining some. Who cares about distant polygons that are blured by DOF anyway and you are focused on object in front of you anyway. Stuff far away behind it should have really low poly count and power should be shifted to objects in front where you want and expect detail. But now, framerate just goes doooooown. Like they are all thrilled by the technology but no one is using it properly.

thats not how tesselation works.
tesselation uses a few-polygon model, does some tesselation magic (typically through a displacement map) and you get a high-poly model out, and it all happens inside the gpu

the advantage over high poly model all the way from hdd->memory->directx->pcie->gpu is that you move much less bytes = more performance per triangle

LagunaX · Apr 22, 2010, 10:04 PM

Crap I only get 30 FPS @ 1920x1200 stock 5870.
When at 900/1250 I get 32FPS...

Someone run their 5770 and make me feel better...

OnBoard · Apr 23, 2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagunaX

Crap I only get 30 FPS @ 1920x1200 stock 5870.
When at 900/1250 I get 32FPS...

Someone run their 5770 and make me feel better...

Got 50 frames with 5770

Well that was without tessellation. High tessellation dipped to 19fps, medium a bit better.

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Apr 16, 2010, 06:59 PM	#27
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Apr 16, 2010, 11:45 AM	#26
Lionheart Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,415 (1.85/day) Thanks: 2,482 Thanked 740 Times in 527 Posts System Specs	Hey guys, just wanted to know if anyone has used these before, they aren't benchmarks, just graphic demo's and quiet nice too. http://developer.amd.com/samples/dem...timedemos.aspx

Apr 21, 2010, 11:59 PM	#29
LagunaX Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 953 (0.62/day) Thanks: 76 Thanked 273 Times in 185 Posts System Specs	Someone upload it megaupload or some host so I can try it - not a torrent guy... EDIT: Nevermind - officially released at: http://www.stonegiant.se/ __________________ i7-3770k 4.8ghz 1.21-1.24v Delidded 3231B415 i7-2600k 4.8ghz L041C108 1.32v PLL off Venomous-X Push/Pull Asus P8P67 Vanilla Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3D/US 2x4GB @ 9-10-10-28 1T DDR3 2133 1.6v Diamond HD 7970 Corsair TX750W CM 690 II Advanced Last edited by LagunaX; Apr 22, 2010 at 12:28 AM.

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Apr 22, 2010, 01:23 AM	#31
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Apr 22, 2010, 01:25 AM	#32
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Apr 22, 2010, 05:25 AM	#33
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Apr 22, 2010, 06:38 AM	#34
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Apr 22, 2010, 04:44 PM	#36
RejZoR Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Europe/Slovenia Posts: 3,963 (1.26/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 752 Times in 540 Posts System Specs	I'm just wondering one thing around all this "tessellation" mumbo jumbo. Isn't tessellation suppose to work this way: When something is viewed at close range (from viewport), you get loads of polygons, when object goes away from the viewport, polys decrease. This is suppose to work dynamically just like old model LOD. Just fully dynamic and much more flexible. But from my observation, they are using tessellation on EVERYTHING regardless of "true" distance, they just increase polygons on EVERYTHING even more when you get closer. That kinda defeats a purpose of even doing tessellation, doesn't it? I mean, with it, you could pump out incredible facial animations and detailed objects in front of you without sacrificing any performance or even gaining some. Who cares about distant polygons that are blured by DOF anyway and you are focused on object in front of you anyway. Stuff far away behind it should have really low poly count and power should be shifted to objects in front where you want and expect detail. But now, framerate just goes doooooown. Like they are all thrilled by the technology but no one is using it properly. __________________ RejZoR's Little Secrets @ rejzor dot tk

Apr 22, 2010, 10:04 PM	#38
LagunaX Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 953 (0.62/day) Thanks: 76 Thanked 273 Times in 185 Posts System Specs	Crap I only get 30 FPS @ 1920x1200 stock 5870. When at 900/1250 I get 32FPS... Someone run their 5770 and make me feel better... __________________ i7-3770k 4.8ghz 1.21-1.24v Delidded 3231B415 i7-2600k 4.8ghz L041C108 1.32v PLL off Venomous-X Push/Pull Asus P8P67 Vanilla Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3D/US 2x4GB @ 9-10-10-28 1T DDR3 2133 1.6v Diamond HD 7970 Corsair TX750W CM 690 II Advanced Last edited by LagunaX; Apr 22, 2010 at 10:13 PM.

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