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Old Apr 24, 2010, 08:41 PM   #1
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Phenom II X6 1055T now available !!! (not 1090T yet though)

In canada: http://pccyber.com/?v=Product&i=CPU-AMD-HDT55TFBGRBOX

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maybe should have posted in Hot Deals though
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Old Apr 25, 2010, 12:45 PM   #2
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does anyone know if they'll make an Athlon II variant soon?
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From the benches I've seen it's very close to i7 920 things like encoding and muti-threaded apps. In games i7 > thuban.
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Old Apr 25, 2010, 05:27 PM   #4
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I feel better about buying an i7 920 last week lol
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In games i7 > thuban.
Why is that? Current Phenom II's can match i7's in terms of gaming performance, I don't see how an extra 2 cores will change that.
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Why is that? Current Phenom II's can match i7's in terms of gaming performance, I don't see how an extra 2 cores will change that.
There is a slight performance increase with i7. That being said, if you are strictly a gamer, a Thuban isn't for you. PII 965/955's are cheap and a better selection.
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Being 45nm with 2 extra cores only reduce OC headroom.
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Old Apr 25, 2010, 05:39 PM   #8
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really? cause from some users 4-4.2ghz on air has been doable (waiting on a real review to be sure) if its true then that throws your statement out the window

also the 1090T iswhat 3.2ghz at 125watts with 2 more cores and 9mb L3 isnt that a lower tdp then the original 965 and the same tdp of the 955 with 2 extra cores and more cache. id be willing to bet that 3.8ghz is where these processors with hit on average
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I'm sure you are aware that, this is a Phenom II with 2 more cores?
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and im sure your aware that most phenoms will reach 3.8 -4ghz extra cores or not and that some users do have these cpus and have taken them beyond 4ghz with air cooling its wait and see still but if a 2.8ghz 1055t is spanking a q9550 at 3.8 im willing to hope that the 2 extra cores will help the Phenom IIs get closer to i7 perfromance and lets face it at high resolutions the i7 dosent offer much improvement either as were still gpu bound in terms of gaming. Eitherway i want a real review to get some real facts as for now only benchmarks avaible are from sites i dont trust to even hold a penny for me
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Old Apr 25, 2010, 05:44 PM   #11
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Yea, the OCing on the 6cores do look promising.... It isn't an exact phenom II + 2 cores, it had been modified enough to allow better OCing and lower TDP
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Er yeah I agreed, 2 mores core, 33% more heat and power consume.
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how is it 33% more heat and power consumption its 125 fucking watts a 965BE C2 chip is 140tdp more cores close to same clock speed more cache and lower tdp so i fail to see a 33% increase you state
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Er yeah I agreed, 2 mores core, 33% more heat and power consume.
You do know that the TDPs are 125W for the 6core VS 140W for the old PII 965?

and PIIs are known to be cool chips

oh and read the post above mine too it doesn't seem you have been reading
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What you have been reading aren't official. That's what I meant.

I haven't stated a single fact. But yeah, it sounds magical.

http://forum.coolaler.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=25

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=235972&page=3

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and as i said im waiting on reviews but a guy over on xtreme systems has a x6 and at stock it beats out a q9550 at 3.8 so im waiting to see how things settle but i agree i saw those screen shots and called bs at the voltage... altho i wouldnt doubt that those clocks are reachable again thuban is a new stepping if i remember C2 to C3 saw an average increase of 100-200 mhz from the improved stepping
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AMD is releasing a 95W 1055T sometime in Q2 as well not just the 125W were seeing now. The 2.6Ghz 1035T X6 will also be 95W.
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So when are these things shipping?
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Tomorrow is what I understand for the 1090T. No clue for the 95W parts though.
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and im sure your aware that most phenoms will reach 3.8 -4ghz extra cores or not and that some users do have these cpus and have taken them beyond 4ghz with air cooling its wait and see still but if a 2.8ghz 1055t is spanking a q9550 at 3.8 im willing to hope that the 2 extra cores will help the Phenom IIs get closer to i7 perfromance and lets face it at high resolutions the i7 dosent offer much improvement either as were still gpu bound in terms of gaming. Eitherway i want a real review to get some real facts as for now only benchmarks avaible are from sites i dont trust to even hold a penny for me
http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...2096865_6.html

Benches are already out for thuban vs i7. In purely multithreaded apps like encoding and cinebench it's very close to i7 920. Don't forget i7 has hyperthreading so it has 8 threads vs 6 threads of thuban. In gaming though i7 smacks thuban. Most games don't take advantage of more than 2 or 4 let alone 6 threads.

You must be aware that i7 also overclock. Most do 4ghz easily if you want to talk about overclocking performance.

It's still a great upgrade path for people with AM3/AM2+ boards or people who can actually use the extra cores.
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I don't care what anybody say's ... I have my 965 BE @ 3.8ghz and work's like a charm. I will wait till the PII 12-core comes out, I'll be buying that next year :-)
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Benches are already out for thuban vs i7. In purely multithreaded apps like encoding and cinebench it's very close to i7 920. Don't forget i7 has hyperthreading so it has 8 threads vs 6 threads of thuban. In gaming though i7 smacks thuban. Most games don't take advantage of more than 2 or 4 let alone 6 threads.

You must be aware that i7 also overclock. Most do 4ghz easily if you want to talk about overclocking performance.

It's still a great upgrade path for people with AM3/AM2+ boards or people who can actually use the extra cores.
I actually haven't seen the i7 smack around Phenom II's in gaming. Besides, gaming at higher resolutions is bound more to the GPU than CPU. i7 smaks PII around with CPU intensive applications for sure, but not gaming.
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I actually haven't seen the i7 smack around Phenom II's in gaming. Besides, gaming at higher resolutions is bound more to the GPU than CPU. i7 smaks PII around with CPU intensive applications for sure, but not gaming.
A phenom 2 x4 965 @ 3.4ghz is still shy of i5 750 @ 2.66ghz in games or multithreaded apps. That's hardly keeping up. Clock for clock forget it. I7 is just that much faster.

Check the link if you haven't. In CPU intensive apps that love more cores a thuban 1055T is competitive with i7 920. In games not quite and is actually no better than phenom 2 x4.
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