ZOTAC GeForce GTX 465 1024M

[W1zzard]

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Z...Force_GTX_465/

[Yellow&Nerdy?]

Yet again a card, that's performance about matches ATI, but has bigger power consumption. Should of matched the 5850 to be an attractive option. My point is: GF100-architecture is way too hot and too power hungry, wait for GF104, or go for ATI.

[Mussels]

seems weird it comes with mini HDMI, so few devices use that as an input.

btw, typo





overall power consumption of this card is quite acceptable, compared to the other fermi variants.

performance seems decent too, matching a 275/280... pity about performance per watt/dollar

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by Mussels

seems weird it comes with mini HDMI, so few devices use that as an input.

Did you see the "packaging and contents" section? It includes a mini-HDMI to HDMI dongle. They've used mini-HDMI to save space.

[v12dock]

I do not think I will be picking this card up

[Cuzza]

Thanks W1zz, quality review as always. Hmmm, better than I had expected, but I would rather splash out a bit extra for the 5850. That power draw is too much for me but I guess this card would be pretty good if you had a good WC setup to go with it. Would like to see these in SLI

[HalfAHertz]

Well it ain't no 5830, but I feel like the performance is a bit lackluster for the price.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by btarunr

Did you see the "packaging and contents" section? It includes a mini-HDMI to HDMI dongle. They've used mini-HDMI to save space.

looked like it had enough space to me, that adaptor would just be weighed down and potentially break/damage the socket.

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by Mussels

looked like it had enough space to me, that adaptor would just be weighed down and potentially break/damage the socket.

No, NVIDIA obviously thought that through before designing it that way for its top of the line series. Every GTX 400 card has mini-HDMI, and ships with that dongle.

And no, with two DVI ports, there won't be enough space for HDMI. There's no graphics card that has two DVI and HDMI in the same expansion bracket, and NVIDIA wouldn't want to intrude into the crucial hot air vent.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by btarunr

No, NVIDIA obviously thought that through before designing it that way for its top of the line series. Every GTX 400 card has mini-HDMI, and ships with that dongle.

And no, with two DVI ports, there won't be enough space for HDMI. There's no graphics card that has two DVI and HDMI in the same expansion bracket, and NVIDIA wouldn't want to intrude into the crucial hot air vent.

oh i'm sure they had reason for it, i'm just opposed to adaptors like that. you should see how bent my HDMI-> DVI adaptor is, due to the weight of a cable over two weeks... i'm just glad its the adaptor that bent, and not the HDMI socket.

I would have chosen one HDMI, one DVI, and one DP. Would have fit easier, not required weird adaptors, and supported the major connection options for years to come.

[crow1001]

Nice review, still the 465 is a POS in Europe if it hits at the price point we think it is, you can get a 5830 for £160 now in the UK.

[alwayssts]

Originally Posted by Yellow&Nerdy?

wait for GF104, or go for ATI.

I really think that should of essentially been the summary, but I respectfully accept there's politics involved in the act of being a reviewer.

I know everyone hates that guy that says "wait for the next thing" but both GF104 in it's 336sp/192-bit (assuming 24 ROP, 56 TMUs) GTX460 iteration or Barts (The 256-bit Juniper replacement I think many of us expect to be 960sp) are going to be upon us soon. The 460 likely quicker than Barts. Either one should match the performance of this part, and require under 150W. GTX460 has a stated (rumored, but likely true) TDP of 130W. I'm assuming Barts will be similar, and that isn't hard to believe if it's around RV670 size.

Link to relevant articles:

GTX460 (GF104)
Notice GF104's pcb is set up for 256-bit/1GB, and there are 16 shader blocks. 336sp/192-bit implies two of those are turned off...Grail part coming to replace GTX470? (Not to mention that in a x2 config 490...)


Southern Islands (Caicos, Turks, Barts, Cayman, Antilles)

I think the dates may be a little off (I'm thinking family launch in Q4), and I don't know if I agree Cayman is 384-bit, as 512-bit makes more sense, but there certainly is enough relevant info there to help decide if making a purchase now is a good idea.

[Blacklash]

If you're in the US spend 10 more usd and get that-

HIS H585FN1GD Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256...

[Paintface]

even my 4890 is faster

[HillBeast]

I knew it wasn't going to be good when they announced it. How is this even remotely in the same league as the 5850? Well done NVIDIA. You've proven yet again that Fermi is a flop.

One note though, I'm thinking you may need to raise your standards of GPUs W1zz. Sorry but every review I've seen lately from you has been TPU Recommended and it really is making it hard to tell whether it really is the best in it's field.

[DriedFrogPills]

as for it being recommended when it doesn't compete against the 5850 well, I would recommend the gtx465 still because from the looks of it at 1920x1200 its still delivering playable frame rates, if it didn't deliver those type of rates then it would not have been recommended

[wahdangun]

great review always

btw wizz why u still use COD4 for OC comparison? it's old and not so demanding game

i suggest u change it to BF:BC2 or other more demanding game

[douglatins]

I was stupid to see this review first: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html
The card showed a lot worse results than the 5850 and even sometimes worse than a GTX285 and they still recommend the card. ROFL.
Wiz review FTW

[qubit]

So, it costs about the same as my GTX 285, but gives noticeably less performance? I'll pass.

Looks like the GTX 470 is equivalent to mine on performance, so I'd be replacing my 285 solely for DX11 capability that won't be relevant for ages. I'll pass again. It looks like I'll be hanging on to my 285 for some time to come then and will be getting very good value out of it.

I'll bet the die-shrunk GTX 480 (with 512 shaders?) will be interesting and might be good enough to part my wallet from its cash.

[NdMk2o1o]

Wow this looks like a big fail imo, price/perf is terrible, heck even the 4890 was on par with it in most of the tests and can be had for at least £100 cheaper.

I really dont see the value in the fermi lineup, and thats true with both the 470 and 480 also. where the hell is the mid / low range aswell? Oh yea I forgot they are still trtying to get rid of all there last gen cards and rebadges so if you want a low or mid card then you can have an ATI 5 series or a rebadge/2** series from NV

NV really need to pull it out of the bag with their next lineup cause if they dont I wont be buying an NV card anytime soon.

[dr emulator (madmax)]

Originally Posted by Mussels

oh i'm sure they had reason for it, i'm just opposed to adaptors like that. you should see how bent my HDMI-> DVI adaptor is, due to the weight of a cable over two weeks... i'm just glad its the adaptor that bent, and not the HDMI socket.

I would have chosen one HDMI, one DVI, and one DP. Would have fit easier, not required weird adaptors, and supported the major connection options for years to come.

i had a similar problem with my old ti 4600 which broke the video in /out dongle
(had to send it back ) so when i got my new card i used a a slightly longer case screw and a piece of strong string to hold the wire
worked a treat

oh nice review as always

[douglatins]

Ive been checking some reviews, like Guru3D and they say how awesome SLI scaling is, though a single and and SLId 465 loses almost always to a 5850 and CF. I mean, who are they trying to fool?
Their conclusions seem to be way of their results. Performance, Noise, Temps, Power Consumption.

[trt740]

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

Wow this looks like a big fail imo, price/perf is terrible, heck even the 4890 was on par with it in most of the tests and can be had for at least £100 cheaper.

I really dont see the value in the fermi lineup, and thats true with both the 470 and 480 also. where the hell is the mid / low range aswell? Oh yea I forgot they are still trtying to get rid of all there last gen cards and rebadges so if you want a low or mid card then you can have an ATI 5 series or a rebadge/2** series from NV

NV really need to pull it out of the bag with their next lineup cause if they dont I wont be buying an NV card anytime soon.

Nonsense this was said about the 200 gtx series as well. Prices will drop to the 200 range, drivers will be optimized and it will turn out to be a decent mid range card, watch and see. This power consumption issue is bs, the card down-clocks when not gaming, so unless you game 24/7 it's not a issue, thats a hand job fee good promotion, by the green movement. This card is overpriced but if it came in at 200 no one would blink. However, the 400 gtx series is hardly a flop. The 5800 series is more efficient power wise but no one cares unless it is running at top speed 24/7 which it isn't.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by douglatins

Ive been checking some reviews, like Guru3D and they say how awesome SLI scaling is, though a single and and SLId 465 loses almost always to a 5850 and CF. I mean, who are they trying to fool?
Their conclusions seem to be way of their results. Performance, Noise, Temps, Power Consumption.

this card runs hot, its slow, its noisy, its got crap features and its expensive.

EDITORS CHOICE AWARD!



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[trt740]

Originally Posted by Mussels

this card runs hot, its slow, its noisy, its got crap features and its expensive.

EDITORS CHOICE AWARD!



[/sarcasm]

It's not slow, hot yes, noisy compared to what a 5850 ref cooler, hardly I heard that from W1z about my 480 gtx and it' is not true, overpriced yes big time. My 480 gtx doesn't get noisy until 60 percent plus and the AMD ref 33 percent plus, and I have had several 5850's and 5870's the cooler noise thing is non-sense ask anyone here who owns both cards.