Computer wont boot... Please help

RaPiDo987 · Jun 27, 2010, 08:46 PM

Hey Guys!

Just bought a new hard drive for my friends comp and installed win xp pro on it. Everything was going great all windows updates were installed. Then the comp decided not to boot up when I was about to give it to him.

Could not figure out why it was not booting so decide to clear the CMOS. Tried to do a full system restore and now it won't pass the first step...

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Can anyone help me?

Mobo: MSI 7211 http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=do...=1&prod_no=234
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB
CPU:???

EDIT: I update the bios using MSI uploader and don't know if that has anything to do with it. I included pic of the bios...
Will try using the memtest and a different win cd.... Thanks

Edit 2: Can't seem to find v.4 bios on the website... can any one please point me to a trust worthy site?

dr_dream · Jun 27, 2010, 08:53 PM

If you have made a BIOS reset and it still doesn't work, try to test the memories with memtest+, so we can exclude them. Also try another Windows XP version

tigger · Jun 27, 2010, 09:37 PM

Try changing the ide lead for a 80 wire one,on the bios screen it says no 80 conductor cable detected. Maybe the drive will only work with a 80 wire(conductor) cable.

erocker · Jun 27, 2010, 09:42 PM

4th pic from the left it shows no HDD.

60c at idle in the bios is a bit concerning as well.

BUCK NASTY · Jun 27, 2010, 09:47 PM

^^ +1 to erocker. Reset CMOS and check sata and HD power cables. Is the HD spinning up?

Jun 27, 2010, 09:54 PM

the one stick of memory in the photo - is that in the primary channel? Usually the first channel is closest to the cpu.

edit, doesn't really matter since it boots I guess.

RaPiDo987 · Jun 27, 2010, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

Try changing the ide lead for a 80 wire one,on the bios screen it says no 80 conductor cable detected. Maybe the drive will only work with a 80 wire(conductor) cable.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????!!!!!

ALL THIS FOR A FREAKEN CABLE????

I freaken LOVE you tigger!!!

Tigger->

<-Me

Problem solve..

dr_dream · Jun 27, 2010, 09:56 PM

1. Put the optical unit as Secondary Master and find the problem for the HDD, it should be set as Primary Master !
2. The CPU idle temperature is damn high.

LE: I was a bit late, sorry

RaPiDo987 · Jun 27, 2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

4th pic from the left it shows no HDD.

60c at idle in the bios is a bit concerning as well.

Wow, didn't notice that... Thanks... Will clean out and put new thermal one it...

RaPiDo987 · Jun 27, 2010, 10:54 PM

Next problem...
I update to SP3 and now I get this log in screen. Attachment 36630 I had this problem before... How can I delete this and make it log on regular...

Thanks

Jun 27, 2010, 11:11 PM

there are a couple methods here - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

I used to use #1

tigger · Jun 27, 2010, 11:58 PM

Glad i could help

RaPiDo987 · Jun 28, 2010, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

Glad i could help

LOL... I freaken hate this COMPUTER

I clean out the heatsink and applied some new thermal past and now it not booting to windows again. Cleared CMOS again, and got this message at the beginning

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I don't know what the heck is going on... CPU temp was at 54C idle...

Someone?

Jun 28, 2010, 12:13 AM

It says it loaded the default values. Those are usually the "fail safe" version. What happened after that?

Kantastic · Jun 28, 2010, 12:13 AM

Go to your boot settings and remove the floppy drive in the boot sequence.

The CPU is running extraordinarily hot so I would suggest you double check that you're mounting it properly, that or download RealTemp and see if it's a BIOS bug.

Fail-safe settings probably set everything to default so if you've overclocked or something those will be reset to default. Just go back in and make the changes according to what you had prior to that.

Bundy · Jun 28, 2010, 12:45 AM

+1 to check your CPU heatsink mounting. The fan is running like a turbine and the idle temp is too high. It seems like it isn't clamped down fully.

RaPiDo987 · Jun 28, 2010, 12:56 AM

Thanks guys.... I think I figure out what happen. The maid dvd rom was set to slave and was plug is as a master. I switch the jumpers to the correct settings a everything boots up correctly now... weird...

RaPiDo987 · Jun 28, 2010, 12:57 AM

Love computers but hate troubleshooting...

RaPiDo987 · Jun 28, 2010, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilyth

there are a couple methods here - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

I used to use #1

#1 work, THANKS

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!

Indra EMC · Jun 28, 2010, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaPiDo987

#1 work, THANKS

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!

So your problem was "Windows" right....

first time i read this thread, i think your bios or others firmware have a problem.

RaPiDo987 · Jun 28, 2010, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indra EMC

So your problem was "Windows" right....

first time i read this thread, i think your bios or others firmware have a problem.

LOL... Good one!!!

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Jun 27, 2010, 08:53 PM	#2
dr_dream Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 47 (0.04/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	If you have made a BIOS reset and it still doesn't work, try to test the memories with memtest+, so we can exclude them. Also try another Windows XP version __________________ PC-Waves.com

Jun 27, 2010, 09:37 PM	#3
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Jun 27, 2010, 08:46 PM	#1
RaPiDo987 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 557 (0.40/day) Thanks: 309 Thanked 110 Times in 70 Posts System Specs	Computer wont boot... Please help Hey Guys! Just bought a new hard drive for my friends comp and installed win xp pro on it. Everything was going great all windows updates were installed. Then the comp decided not to boot up when I was about to give it to him. Could not figure out why it was not booting so decide to clear the CMOS. Tried to do a full system restore and now it won't pass the first step... Can anyone help me? Mobo: MSI 7211 http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=do...=1&prod_no=234 HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB CPU:??? EDIT: I update the bios using MSI uploader and don't know if that has anything to do with it. I included pic of the bios... Will try using the memtest and a different win cd.... Thanks Edit 2: Can't seem to find v.4 bios on the website... can any one please point me to a trust worthy site? __________________ WWW.THECAMOGUY.COM Last edited by RaPiDo987; Jun 27, 2010 at 09:22 PM.

Jun 27, 2010, 09:42 PM	#4
erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,961 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,793 Thanked 12,322 Times in 7,833 Posts System Specs	4th pic from the left it shows no HDD. 60c at idle in the bios is a bit concerning as well.

Jun 27, 2010, 09:47 PM	#5
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Jun 27, 2010, 09:54 PM	#6
twilyth Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	the one stick of memory in the photo - is that in the primary channel? Usually the first channel is closest to the cpu. edit, doesn't really matter since it boots I guess.

Jun 27, 2010, 09:56 PM	#8
dr_dream Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 47 (0.04/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	1. Put the optical unit as Secondary Master and find the problem for the HDD, it should be set as Primary Master ! 2. The CPU idle temperature is damn high. LE: I was a bit late, sorry __________________ PC-Waves.com

Jun 27, 2010, 10:54 PM	#10
RaPiDo987 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 557 (0.40/day) Thanks: 309 Thanked 110 Times in 70 Posts System Specs	Next problem... I update to SP3 and now I get this log in screen. Attachment 36630 I had this problem before... How can I delete this and make it log on regular... Thanks __________________ WWW.THECAMOGUY.COM

Jun 27, 2010, 11:11 PM	#11
twilyth Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	there are a couple methods here - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm I used to use #1

Jun 27, 2010, 11:58 PM	#12
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Jun 28, 2010, 12:13 AM	#14
twilyth Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	It says it loaded the default values. Those are usually the "fail safe" version. What happened after that?

Jun 28, 2010, 12:13 AM	#15
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Jun 28, 2010, 12:56 AM	#17
RaPiDo987 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 557 (0.40/day) Thanks: 309 Thanked 110 Times in 70 Posts System Specs	Thanks guys.... I think I figure out what happen. The maid dvd rom was set to slave and was plug is as a master. I switch the jumpers to the correct settings a everything boots up correctly now... weird... __________________ WWW.THECAMOGUY.COM

Jun 28, 2010, 12:57 AM	#18
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