MSI Introduces Lucid Hydra Based 870A Fuzion and P55A Fuzion Motherboards

btarunr · Jun 30, 2010, 12:13 PM

MSI rolled out two of its performance Lucid Hydra based motherboards it's been working on, the socket LGA1156 P55A Fuzion and socket AM3 870A Fuzion. The P55A Fuzion uses a 10-phase CPU VRM that makes use of high-C capacitors, Lotes-made socket, two-phase VRM for the memory, and expansion slots which include two PCI-E 2.0 x16 (full-bandwidth), two PCI-E x1, and two PCI. The PCI-E x16 slots are wired to the Lucid Hydra 200 chip that gives each graphics card full interface bandwidth, and offers vendor-neutral multi-GPU pairing. Users can pair NVIDIA graphics cards with ATI, and can also mix and match different GPUs. Connectivity features include two SATA 6 Gb/s ports, six SATA 3 Gb/s, USB 3.0, 8-channel audio, and gigabit Ethernet.

The 870A Fuzion is based on the AMD 870 chipset with SB850 southbridge. It supports socket AM3 CPUs, including six-core Phenom II X6. The CPU is powered by a 4+1 phase VRM. Expansion slots include two PCI-E 2.0 x16, two PCI-E x1, and one PCI. Apart from the CPU architecture, this board has all the features of P55A Fuzion, except that it has eight SATA 6 Gb/s ports. Connectivity here, too, includes USB 3.0, 8-channel audio, Lucid Hydra multi-GPU technology, and gigabit Ethernet. The 870A Fuzion is expected to be priced around US $160, while the P55A Fuzion is expected to go for $190.

caleb · Jun 30, 2010, 12:26 PM

Looks good but don't you guys think that the 'common' mobo layout is becoming a bit of obsolete with those large GFX cards ? I mean basicly if you put in 2x2slot video cards the whole southern section is totally covered by them. Not to mention these funny heatsinks which are 'cut' down to allow fitting a GFX.
Wouldn't it be more efficent,easy,comfy to have the whole CPU/Mobo stuff into a integrated addin card like GFX ? This way the board would only mean slots that would interconnect the addin cards so that everything else is horizontally.

Jizzler · Jun 30, 2010, 12:56 PM

^ Like this? (view post in forums for photo)

Can get Single Board Computers (SBC) in a variety of configurations (1P, 2P, Intel, AMD), though not always the latest generation and you'll pay a bit more.

hurrakan · Jun 30, 2010, 01:13 PM

Sounds good but is it?

I have an MSI mobo at work and it definitely causes me more problems than my Asus mobo at home.

Have to wait for reviews I guess.

wahdangun · Jun 30, 2010, 01:17 PM

wow, this is what I'm looking for, a fuzion AMD mobo. now i just need to know the price

finndrummer · Jun 30, 2010, 01:26 PM

it means that the two pci-e slots works at full 16x speed ? generally p55 supports for max 8x/8x

caleb · Jun 30, 2010, 01:34 PM

Yeah exacly what I had in mind Jizzler. So simple and efficent use of space

pr0n Inspector · Jun 30, 2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleb

Looks good but don't you guys think that the 'common' mobo layout is becoming a bit of obsolete with those large GFX cards ? I mean basicly if you put in 2x2slot video cards the whole southern section is totally covered by them. Not to mention these funny heatsinks which are 'cut' down to allow fitting a GFX.
Wouldn't it be more efficent,easy,comfy to have the whole CPU/Mobo stuff into a integrated addin card like GFX ? This way the board would only mean slots that would interconnect the addin cards so that everything else is horizontally.

Buy a Mac Pro!

ebolamonkey3 · Jun 30, 2010, 01:49 PM

Anyone know when these'll be on sale in the US and when reviews will be coming out?

BazookaJoe · Jun 30, 2010, 06:43 PM

I'm WAY WAY more interested in this whole Hydra thing ..

I got's a spare 9400 Lying around - now I KNOW it's a useless doorstop - but it's just going to waste, theory seems to be with this hydra I can just throw it in with my 5850 and get some extra jiggabitz on top of what I already had.

Now damn, ANY extra performance is good if its for free right?

In Fact ANYONE upgrading their old GPU can just throw a new one in and gain an extra boost by keeping the old one - Now that to me seems somehow.. a good thing ...

DanishDevil · Jun 30, 2010, 07:01 PM

Tiny little MOSFET heatsinks! For $190 you'd think they would add something a bit beefier.

rickss69 · Jun 30, 2010, 07:02 PM

This has been out a long time hasnt it? Open Box: MSI Big Bang Fuzion LGA 1156 Intel P55 /...

JrRacinFan · Jun 30, 2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickss69

This has been out a long time hasnt it? Open Box: MSI Big Bang Fuzion LGA 1156 Intel P55 /...

Looks like its redesign to now include USB/SATA3.

suraswami · Jun 30, 2010, 07:16 PM

So does the 870 chipset have integrated GPU?

Don't understand this - all the board companies claim about efficiency and it will cut down CPU phases to save energy etc, why not just build a board with onboard graphics and use this Lucid chip to power up the graphics chip/s when needed? That will save a boat load of energy.

I know this is available on NV with hybrid SLI, but why not on all platforms?

But these new boards are still welcome except the price is on the higher side

Flanker · Jun 30, 2010, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suraswami

So does the 870 chipset have integrated GPU?

not afaik

von kain · Jun 30, 2010, 11:24 PM

if my memory serve me well.the gains in speed is the least ..mediocre.

the better use is to can pair a amd gpu and a old-cheap nvidia as a phys-x.
but wait i think the newest drivers of nvidia do that....

ToTTenTranz · Jul 1, 2010, 12:56 AM

My next motherboard will probably have a Hydra chip in it.

I really like the fact that the LUCID engine actually sums the graphics memory in a multi-card setup.

kaneda · Jul 1, 2010, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by von kain

if my memory serve me well.the gains in speed is the least ..mediocre.

the better use is to can pair a amd gpu and a old-cheap nvidia as a phys-x.
but wait i think the newest drivers of nvidia do that....

nVidia has said repeatedly that it was just a driver fuck up. XD thats going to vanish soon enough.

more than hydra motherboards, i want to see more cards with them on. motherboards do interest me though, but only because for months now ive been dreaming of an eyefinity set up alongside CUDA accelerated MPE for an epic video workstation.

ebolamonkey3 · Jul 1, 2010, 08:19 AM

Argh.. enough of this, where is the CHIV Extreme?!?!

von kain · Jul 1, 2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaneda

nVidia has said repeatedly that it was just a driver fuck up. XD thats going to vanish soon enough.

more than hydra motherboards, i want to see more cards with them on. motherboards do interest me though, but only because for months now ive been dreaming of an eyefinity set up alongside CUDA accelerated MPE for an epic video workstation.

so in real world if nvidia want's can cut the support and the performance .etc...

i also remember a graphic card with an lucid hydra on it.

WarEagleAU · Jul 2, 2010, 02:51 PM

Wonder if they will have an 890FX version out if they don't already.

ebolamonkey3 · Jul 3, 2010, 08:05 AM

The CHIV Extreme is supposed to be 890FX and have Hydra, but there hasn't been a peep of news on it since May.

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hurrakan Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Sounds good but is it? I have an MSI mobo at work and it definitely causes me more problems than my Asus mobo at home. Have to wait for reviews I guess.

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Any new Lucid Hydra motherboards coming? Like from EVGA?	douglatins	Motherboards & Memory	0	Nov 12, 2009 06:34 PM