Thermaltake Frio

Jun 13, 2010, 07:50 PM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/Frio/

Inioch · Jul 26, 2010, 05:08 PM

Thanks Fits, a good review and a good looking cooler.

Just a thing I noticed: in the system specs of the review it says 4.2GHz "OC", but in the graphs its 4.032GHz.

Would be nice to see how it performs on your killer rig.

Fitseries3 · Jul 26, 2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inioch

Thanks Fits, a good review and a good looking cooler.

Just a thing I noticed: in the system specs of the review it says 4.2GHz "OC", but in the graphs its 4.032GHz.

Would be nice to see how it performs on your killer rig.

thanks, fixed.

pantherx12 · Jul 26, 2010, 05:14 PM

It does not have unique fin anything.

This is a True 120 EX that has been out for ages.

TT are such cheapy bastards.

Also ". The Frio's base provides a nice even spread which is exactly what we wanted to see.

Finished look"

That is not an even spread of TIM dude, it should be as close to the edges of the IHS as possible.

Jim Beam · Jul 26, 2010, 05:20 PM

In the introduction it is said that the pipes are 8mm, but in the value and conclusion it is said that they are 6mm?

Fitseries3 · Jul 26, 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Beam

In the introduction it is said that the pipes are 8mm, but in the value and conclusion it is said that they are 6mm?

DonInKansas · Jul 26, 2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

That is not an even spread of TIM dude, it should be as close to the edges of the IHS as possible.

Not really. The cores don't go out to the edge of the ihs, and the cores are what you're cooling.

Fitseries3 · Jul 26, 2010, 05:31 PM

The base of the cooler is MUCH larger than most CPU's IHS's. if the TIM was spread to the outter edge of the cooler base it would be hanging out over the socket clasp/motherboard.

Jim Beam · Jul 26, 2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitseries3

You've fixed it

3volvedcombat · Jul 26, 2010, 05:53 PM

^^^^ In THIS PIC you can see the creases on the fin design to make the turbulence which set it way apart from a TRUE
The bent fin design cause more static pressure, for better cooling

And you cant call something cheap, if it outperformed the TRUE

Good review Fit'

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Fitseries3 · Jul 26, 2010, 05:57 PM

pics dont do it justice.

aCid888* · Jul 26, 2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitseries3

pics dont do it justice.

No they dont lol

pantherx12 · Jul 26, 2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Not really. The cores don't go out to the edge of the ihs, and the cores are what you're cooling.

The reason TIM is there is to fill tiny holes so to metal surfaces have as much contact area as possible.

When TIM doesn't go all the way to the edge your actually introducing a "hole" around the TIM.

The IHS is designed to do as is name implies, spread the heat to take up that the area of the spreader. So to not utilise what it is designed for is illogical.

Especially when using coolers like this where you want the heat to be going through as many heat-pipes efficiently as possible. (I.E edge to edge heat absorption)

Whilst it's not going to make a huge difference calling it "good" is a load of rubbish.

Good = Edge to edge even distribution of TIM that is as thin as possible.

Having some difficulty explaining what I mean in words.

But to summarise, a perfect interface between a heatsink and a heat-spreader would be entirely flat. Blob of crap in the middle is not flat.

erocker · Jul 26, 2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

The reason TIM is there is to fill tiny holes so to metal surfaces have as much contact area as possible.

When TIM doesn't go all the way to the edge your actually introducing a "hole" around the TIM.

The IHS is designed to do as is name implies, spread the heat to take up that the area of the spreader. So to not utilise what it is designed for is illogical.

Especially when using coolers like this where you want the heat to be going through as many heat-pipes efficiently as possible. (I.E edge to edge heat absorption)

Whilst it's not going to make a huge difference calling it "good" is a load of rubbish.

Good = Edge to edge even distribution of TIM that is as thin as possible.

Having some difficulty explaining what I mean in words.

But to summarise, a perfect interface between a heatsink and a heat-spreader would be entirely flat. Blob of crap in the middle is not flat.

You seem to be ruling out the TIM itself. Different types of TIM require different pressure to evenly distribute. The quantity and consistency of TIM makes a difference. Perhaps the consistency of the TIM used in this review would warrant a bit more of it to be used when applied in this manner.

I personally like spreading my time across the IHS in an even thin layer but even so, the end result is very minimal and doing so in a review wouldn't be beneficial to showing how much pressure the heatsink makes when mounted.

Was it mentioned what kind of TIM was used?

pantherx12 · Jul 26, 2010, 07:08 PM

My only jibe was it being called "good"
When it was "meh" at best XD

(I'm fussy)

Kantastic · Jul 26, 2010, 10:01 PM

I want a Frio now, maybe TT is finally stepping it up a notch.

eidairaman1 · Jul 26, 2010, 11:03 PM

Product Improvement, Make the pipes longer so the cooler is taller.

mjkmike · Jul 26, 2010, 11:33 PM

Great review. THKS. I think I will get one to relpace my old muggen II.

Fitseries3 · Jul 26, 2010, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Was it mentioned what kind of TIM was used?

if the cooler comes with it, which it did with the frio, i use what is supplied.

when TIM isnt supplied with the cooler i specify that i use MX-2

AthlonX2 · Jul 27, 2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Product Improvement, Make the pipes longer so the cooler is taller.

cant do that if you want it to fit inside a pc case,it already touches the door on my utgard

eidairaman1 · Jul 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

either that needs to happen or the ram slots need to be placed further away from the CPU.

AthlonX2 · Jul 27, 2010, 12:27 AM

get thinner fans scythe makes some good ones

Fitseries3 · Jul 27, 2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AthlonX2

get thinner fans scythe makes some good ones

thinner fans = lower static pressure.

static pressure is what pushes the air through the cooler.

low static pressure means less air penetrates the cooler

ideally, 38mm fans would be best for performance as they have the highest cfm + static pressure

stupido · Jul 27, 2010, 08:17 AM

I saw comparison with H50 but didn't found any review on it?

WarEagleAU · Jul 27, 2010, 05:02 PM

Is this the same news posting BTA made awhile back with a lot of folks dissing the Frio? HA HA, looks like it performed better than most of us expected, even outdoing my Mugen 2 which I love!

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