techPowerUp! Forums

Go Back   techPowerUp! Forums > www.techpowerup.com > News

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Aug 18, 2010, 12:46 PM   #1
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
 
btarunr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hyderabad, India
Posts: 14,982 (7.30/day)
Thanks: 788
Thanked 12,897 Times in 5,649 Posts
Send a message via AIM to btarunr Send a message via MSN to btarunr

System Specs

Razer Readies BlackWidow Ultimate Gaming Mechanical Keyboard

Razer is readying a new high-end mechanical keyboard for gaming. Named the Razer BlackWidow Ultimate, the keyboard is one of the first to feature illumination. Being a mechanical keyboard, each key has its own mechanical switch compared to conventional keyboards that have a common plastic printed circuit membrane with rubber dome switches. Mechanical keys give better tactile feedback for better control. Apart from the standard 102-key US layout, Razer added several special and macro-bound keys that can be managed from the included software. The keys as well as the company badge is illuminated blue. Razer's BlackWidow Ultimate is expected to cost $129 in the US, when it launches later this week.

Update (18/8): Razer also has a standard variant of the BlackWidow (minus the "Ultimate" marker, which lacks key illumination. This one is expected to be priced at $79.99.


Last edited by btarunr; Aug 18, 2010 at 03:25 PM.
btarunr is online now  
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to btarunr For This Useful Post:
Old Aug 18, 2010, 12:47 PM   #2
NdMk2o1o
2000 Posts
 
NdMk2o1o's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Redditch, Worcestershire, England
Posts: 2,640 (2.35/day)
Thanks: 332
Thanked 857 Times in 604 Posts

System Specs

Lets hope they can sort the drivers out for this being as the Lycosa's are crap in Vista/7 and keys just stop responding randomly
__________________
Bioshock Infinite, FC3, Crysis 3, Shogun 2, Dirt Showdown AMD bundle keys for sale:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182837
NdMk2o1o is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 12:47 PM   #3
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
 
btarunr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hyderabad, India
Posts: 14,982 (7.30/day)
Thanks: 788
Thanked 12,897 Times in 5,649 Posts
Send a message via AIM to btarunr Send a message via MSN to btarunr

System Specs

Many Thanks to Bumblebee and Rakesh_95 for the tip.
__________________

Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp
btarunr is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 01:05 PM   #4
The Witcher
200 Posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 354 (0.21/day)
Thanks: 45
Thanked 45 Times in 28 Posts

System Specs

Man, Razer products are quite overpriced when you compare the price to the actual quality, I mean their products looks cool, feels good but it's still a poor quality.

Two weeks ago I opened my Razer 5.1 headset because it kept changing the from 5.1 to 2.1 to 4.1...it was a mess, anyway I opened it up and it was completely empty, just 3 speakers in each side and a few wires here and there plus cheap plastic look, the bottom line it looks like a very low quality-made-in-china product.

I bought that headset for $125, I think that the cost to make one for Razer is $20 or $30
The Witcher is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 01:28 PM   #5
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
 
btarunr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hyderabad, India
Posts: 14,982 (7.30/day)
Thanks: 788
Thanked 12,897 Times in 5,649 Posts
Send a message via AIM to btarunr Send a message via MSN to btarunr

System Specs

I use this mechanical keyboard: http://www.tvs-e.com/keyboard-landing.asp

TVS Gold. Made in India, $20, works like a charm.

__________________

Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp
btarunr is online now  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to btarunr For This Useful Post:
Old Aug 18, 2010, 01:44 PM   #6
Faith[ROG].Anarchy
200 Posts
 
Faith[ROG].Anarchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Hà Nội, Viet Nam
Posts: 415 (0.41/day)
Thanks: 80
Thanked 43 Times in 37 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to Faith[ROG].Anarchy

System Specs

At last, Mechanical Gaming Keyboard from Razer
Faith[ROG].Anarchy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 01:45 PM   #7
MomentoMoir
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Venus, TX
Posts: 228 (0.16/day)
Thanks: 50
Thanked 69 Times in 68 Posts
Send a message via AIM to MomentoMoir Send a message via MSN to MomentoMoir

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o View Post
Lets hope they can sort the drivers out for this being as the Lycosa's are crap in Vista/7 and keys just stop responding randomly
WHo actually uses the drivers that come with a keyboard? My Lycosa has never given me a problem and ive beaten the crap out of it during gameplay many times over.
MomentoMoir is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 02:01 PM   #8
DonInKansas
3500 Posts
 
DonInKansas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Kansas
Posts: 4,261 (1.95/day)
Thanks: 779
Thanked 1,273 Times in 1,007 Posts
Send a message via AIM to DonInKansas Send a message via MSN to DonInKansas Send a message via Yahoo to DonInKansas

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post

I bought that headset for $125, I think that the cost to make one for Razer is $20 or $30
I'm pretty sure it's like this with most products you buy. You think your shoes are made of more than a dollar's worth of materials? What did you pay for those?
__________________
Sneekypeet on my disappearance from TPU: "He went to school for a while to learn how to deal with douchebags and delight in pastries and exotic coffees....or in English, he is a cop now."

You know what time it is......
DonInKansas is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 02:07 PM   #9
BumbleBee
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Cybertron aka Canada
Posts: 4,083 (2.66/day)
Thanks: 827
Thanked 1,202 Times in 920 Posts

System Specs

the mechanical key switches and backlighting are not cheap.

mechanical key switches are rated for 10-50,000,000 strokes. there is 1 LED underneath each key. rubber dome keyboards use less than 20 SMD LED to illuminate over 100 keys.
BumbleBee is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to BumbleBee For This Useful Post:
Old Aug 18, 2010, 02:25 PM   #10
Zehnsucht
200 Posts
 
Zehnsucht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 413 (0.23/day)
Thanks: 42
Thanked 91 Times in 58 Posts

System Specs

Hmm I need a new keyboard, and one with illuminated keys. Maybe I'll hold out for this one...
__________________
I Are DuneCat
I Controls The Spice
I Controls The Universe
View my old rig
Zehnsucht is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 02:53 PM   #11
lemode
500 Posts
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 850 (0.63/day)
Thanks: 105
Thanked 263 Times in 206 Posts

System Specs

i will be buying one around April that's for damn sure.
__________________
lemode is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 03:12 PM   #12
The Witcher
200 Posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 354 (0.21/day)
Thanks: 45
Thanked 45 Times in 28 Posts

System Specs

Could someone explain to me the difference between a normal keyboard and these mechanical keyboards ? to be honest this is the first time to hear about mechanical keyboards.

Please use simple words :P
The Witcher is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 03:18 PM   #13
fenurch
500 Posts
 
fenurch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London
Posts: 570 (0.29/day)
Thanks: 124
Thanked 70 Times in 64 Posts

System Specs

Finally, a proper 'gaming' mechanical keyboard. I say proper because Steelseries have 2 and both of them are fairly identical and both don't have backlight, macro's or virtually anything out of ordinary.

I'm actually really loving this and might get it once I get enough money. Really expensive though
fenurch is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 03:20 PM   #14
Black Haru
200 Posts
 
Black Haru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 366 (0.31/day)
Thanks: 477
Thanked 274 Times in 201 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemode View Post
i will be buying one around April that's for damn sure.
this does look good, but why is April significant? seems rather far off...

I should really look into this for the desky, cause it's a PITA if its cloudy, say nothing of night time (lights just cast bad shadows to.)
__________________


“Thanks. On TPU, it's a button.” -TheLaughingMan
Black Haru is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 04:27 PM   #15
cadaveca
My name is Dave
 
cadaveca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 10,768 (4.15/day)
Thanks: 4,483
Thanked 5,192 Times in 3,199 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by BumbleBee View Post
the mechanical key switches and backlighting are not cheap.

mechanical key switches are rated for 10-50,000,000 strokes. there is 1 LED underneath each key. rubber dome keyboards use less than 20 SMD LED to illuminate over 100 keys.
LOLOL. It's bloody plastic...the entire cost for those things is less than pennies for each unit, when bought in the bulk that is needed to produce a product like this. Manufacturing is really, really cheap. It's the shipping out of china, and imposed tarrifs, that kill prices.


Quote:
Originally Posted by MomentoMoir View Post
WHo actually uses the drivers that come with a keyboard? My Lycosa has never given me a problem and ive beaten the crap out of it during gameplay many times over.
Yeah, I agree with you here. I hear many people having issues with the Razer mouse I use...as sson as I got rid of the bloatware to configure it, I haven't had a single issue. Recently I went back and tried the software gain...issues abounded...



I'm just happy to see more mechanical keyboards...they are far better for your fingers than pounding in rubber divots found in most non-mechanical keyboards.
__________________
Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp


-Only real men play games THIS way.
cadaveca is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 06:12 PM   #16
jimmyxxx
5 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 15 (0.01/day)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

i would like to know what switches are they using (cherrys maybe?)
jimmyxxx is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 06:25 PM   #17
runnin17
200 Posts
 
runnin17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 378 (0.25/day)
Thanks: 37
Thanked 35 Times in 25 Posts

System Specs

I am hoping it is a non-clicky switch. I like the look of the keyboard, but whether or not Razer will implement the idea well is a crap shoot.
__________________
Intel 980x | EVGA E759 Classified | 6GB Corsair GTX2 @ 1600 6-6-6-18-1T | 2x EVGA GTX580 SC's | Antec Truepower 1000W | 2x 40GB Kingston SSD (RAID0)
runnin17 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 06:29 PM   #18
BazookaJoe
500 Posts
 
BazookaJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 800 (0.47/day)
Thanks: 41
Thanked 207 Times in 125 Posts

I must say I LOVE actual KEYS on my keyboard
__________________
"I used to be an adventurer like you... Then a Skyrim patch corrupted all my saved games"
BazookaJoe is offline  
Crunching for Team TPU
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 06:31 PM   #19
DonInKansas
3500 Posts
 
DonInKansas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Kansas
Posts: 4,261 (1.95/day)
Thanks: 779
Thanked 1,273 Times in 1,007 Posts
Send a message via AIM to DonInKansas Send a message via MSN to DonInKansas Send a message via Yahoo to DonInKansas

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
Could someone explain to me the difference between a normal keyboard and these mechanical keyboards ? to be honest this is the first time to hear about mechanical keyboards.

Please use simple words :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_technology
__________________
Sneekypeet on my disappearance from TPU: "He went to school for a while to learn how to deal with douchebags and delight in pastries and exotic coffees....or in English, he is a cop now."

You know what time it is......
DonInKansas is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 07:19 PM   #20
The Witcher
200 Posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 354 (0.21/day)
Thanks: 45
Thanked 45 Times in 28 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonInKansas View Post
ummm....so it's supposed to have a faster response time ?

Is the change really noticeable ?
The Witcher is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 07:22 PM   #21
zithe
2000 Posts
 
zithe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: North Chili, NY
Posts: 2,646 (1.47/day)
Thanks: 220
Thanked 350 Times in 310 Posts
Send a message via AIM to zithe Send a message via MSN to zithe Send a message via Skype™ to zithe

System Specs

Mechanical keyboards have a different feel, I think. All the ones I see have a very satisfying click to them.
__________________
“Fudzilla Confirms its fake!!! ]” -SammyHayabuza
zithe is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 08:29 PM   #22
Mescalamba
75 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 196 (0.14/day)
Thanks: 4
Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts

Interesting, never thought that Razer will do something really wanted. Its actually priced ok, my SteelSeries 7G wasnt exactly cheap. Same as Das Keyboard and similar products, mechanical keyboards are bit on expensive side..

But worth it, even if it cost 2x times more. Mechanical keyboard FTW.
Mescalamba is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 08:35 PM   #23
Frederik S
Staff
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Søllerød, Denmark
Posts: 1,033 (0.40/day)
Thanks: 44
Thanked 297 Times in 204 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Frederik S

System Specs

Mechanical keyboards are favored by some due to the tactile feedback and comfort because the resistance varies somewhat over the travel length.

I doubt that it changes your gaming performance, but it might increase comfort and the tactile feedback makes you more confident of every key press.
Frederik S is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 09:14 PM   #24
cadaveca
My name is Dave
 
cadaveca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 10,768 (4.15/day)
Thanks: 4,483
Thanked 5,192 Times in 3,199 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik S View Post
Mechanical keyboards are favored by some due to the tactile feedback and comfort because the resistance varies somewhat over the travel length.

I doubt that it changes your gaming performance, but it might increase comfort and the tactile feedback makes you more confident of every key press.
Exactly. Also, mechanical switches are typically "thrown" mid-stroke, whereas with rubber-based keys, it's solid contact that "throws" the switch. It's why people that use mechanical keyboard for some times swear by them...imagine running, but never touching the ground...


That's what I'm looking for in a keyboard. Comfort AND function, and rarely can you get both together. it will be the switches used that make or break this one, an I expect at least $150 price for a good one, and am more than willing to pay that for a keyboard done right. That leaves me a bit unexcited, but I can only hope they have made the right design choices.
__________________
Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp


-Only real men play games THIS way.
cadaveca is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2010, 09:44 PM   #25
Rakesh95
200 Posts
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 202 (0.15/day)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 20 Times in 13 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by btarunr View Post
I use this mechanical keyboard: http://www.tvs-e.com/keyboard-landing.asp

TVS Gold. Made in India, $20, works like a charm.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100818/bta98dms.jpg
I thought TVS only made good motorbikes
Rakesh95 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard BuckWild General Hardware 10 May 5, 2009 09:55 AM
Razer Reclusa Or Razer Lycosa (Gaming Keyboard) TricksterMatt General Hardware 16 Apr 25, 2009 12:29 PM
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard Darksaber Reviews 11 Feb 8, 2009 11:46 PM
Microsoft and Razer Introduce Reclusa Gaming Keyboard malware News 10 Jan 9, 2007 02:47 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
no new posts