RIP the Wii

[DaveK]

Originally Posted by CDdude55

Reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfEGd...ext=1&index=37

Hilarious.

That video is pretty much how I feel about motion controls. They're a gimmick to me. I'm not a casual gamer so all this casual crap Microsoft is putting into the 360 is useless because they aren't doing anything for their core/hardcore audience.

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I'm not much of a wii fan, good start for an idea but really terrible execution, and it seems nobody plays these games for more than a week and then only once a month. So I really don't understand why anyone at all would be excited about move, it's wii hd without any games. At least kinect is technologically interesting and has a lot of creative potential.

[zehpavora]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

I didn't felt bad about the nintendo stuff , because we played the shit out of GCN and N64 , i was younger and we were always having parties and birthdays so we were playing starfoxes fzeros and smashbros , but why everybody think Wii is a dust collector , is simple , you're grown up , you don't have these parties all the time in the house , and a lot of people taken their roots in schools and ways and you get to know new friends ... that's basically the thing. You get to do a lot of stuff , so you're not at home always right , so that's what it is for me , and i don't feel bad about it , still , SOMETIMEs happens that we get to play togater but rarely, but i still have save data and all the records , how many hours i played consoles , it's easily more than any other game but more you grow up less you play that's normal.

I didn't mean "Dust-Collector" as a bad thing. I agree with you in most parts. I still own a working (though the looks are a little damaged) N64, NGC, and the Wii. My dad (yes, my dad, who's 52 years old) owns the PS2 and 3.

I think that the XBox and the PS3 are trying to compete with the PC, since thier strategy is to go to hardware & looks. That's not good at all, since the consoles stay in the market for 5+ years, while new PC hardware comes out every month or so, it's just impossible to keep up.

Nintendo, however, goes for the "Fun-Factor". The games are not the best looking games ever, but they are fun to play and are very elaborated. I'm not saying that the XBox and PSs don't have/had games that were fun. I'm saying that they are oriented at visuals more than gameplay.

What really saddens me though, is the fact that the PC is the one that innovates in hardware but gets all those horrible-made ports...

[wahdangun]

Originally Posted by digibucc

I beg to differ. Sony and Xbox will not release peripherals and then not push, entice, force publishers and devs to at least support it.

it will not be required for most games, but it will be supported ... and hopefully done well enough.

regardless.... i'm waiting.

hmm so what do you think about HD-dvd for xbox ?

or how about sega 32x ?

[theonedub]

Heavy Rain was made for Move. Its patch for Move support should be ready soon too.

[digibucc]

Originally Posted by wahdangun

hmm so what do you think about HD-dvd for xbox ?

or how about sega 32x ?

i recognize that it has happened in the past - and will happen in the future. I just don't see that as the case this time, I spoke wrong.... been doing that lately ;(

[TheMailMan78]

So now you have a wannabe PC turned in to a wannabe Wii. Sony/Xbox fail sandwich.

[wahdangun]

Originally Posted by digibucc

i recognize that it has happened in the past - and will happen in the future. I just don't see that as the case this time, I spoke wrong.... been doing that lately ;(

yeah, lucky for me i never buy X-box and the HD-dvd, i almost take the bite, but i go for PS3 eventually, but ms really piss out a lot of people because ms promised they will release games for HD-dvd

i hope this time ms can keep their promise for kinec

[CDdude55]

Originally Posted by wahdangun

yeah, lucky for me i never buy X-box and the HD-dvd, i almost take the bite, but i go for PS3 eventually, but ms really piss out a lot of people because ms promised they will release games for HD-dvd

i hope this time ms can keep their promise for kinec

Microsoft promised to released games on HD DVD?, well HD DVD failed out to Blu-ray, so i don't think they will holding that promise anymore.

[TheMailMan78]

Why do you fight the Wii's blatant superiority in the console world? Even the demigods Sony and Microsoft have officially caved. Its over. Wii won.

[digibucc]

over the years i've got all 3 ... I rarely use the wii , the ps 3 and xbox are about equal off and on. depends on the game I want to play.

but numbers don't lie, and mailman is right.

[CDdude55]

Originally Posted by digibucc

over the years i've got all 3 ... I rarely use the wii , the ps 3 and xbox are about equal off and on. depends on the game I want to play.

but numbers don't lie, and mailman is right.

Same hear, i haven't touched my Wii in ages.(no pun intended lol)

Then again i haven't touched any of my consoles in a while.

[AphexDreamer]

The Move is simply FANTASTIC! I've never played a single game with my family till now. We all love it and we all enjoy it and thing just works!

Super accurate! Like when playing Pong you can actually move up to the net and spike it hard or move back and save a ball! ITA JUST AMAZING!

I was going to get Ruse on the PC but SCREW THAT! I'm playing it using MOVE! HAHA! You've never seen motion control like this at home trust me Wii ain't got crap on this, just wait for a killer library and A PS3 Fit to come out and this this will be platinum for sure. Man my PS3 was dormant but now with the JailBreak and move I haven't touched my PC to play games, thats just not like me at all. Can't wait for steam to come out on PS3 man Sony is doing wonders.

Oh and I agree. RIP WII

[Arciks]

Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA

I'm not much of a wii fan, good start for an idea but really terrible execution, and it seems nobody plays these games for more than a week and then only once a month. So I really don't understand why anyone at all would be excited about move, it's wii hd without any games. At least kinect is technologically interesting and has a lot of creative potential.

Why you think so, I am playin it every day since i bought my PS move.I got tiger woods pga 11 and it plays awsome with move.and RE5 same way and there will be loads of other games in future not only casual games like mostly sport games but action games aswell.SO its only a matter of time when move will kick gamepad in a**

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by Arciks

Why you think so, I am playin it every day since i bought my PS move.I got tiger woods pga 11 and it plays awsome with move.and RE5 same way and there will be loads of other games in future not only casual games like mostly sport games but action games aswell.SO its only a matter of time when move will kick gamepad in a**

I feel the same way but I won't go as far as to say it will replace it.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

The Move has only just come out, so of course the Wii has the larger games library One thing the PS3 can offer over the Wii, is graphics quality. When the game devs start using the Move technology for 'real' gaming, ie Killzone 3, Wii owners will realise that they have nothing more than a GameCube 2.0

Im a big 360 fan, but I cant even see Kinect topping Move.

Motion controllers will never be for real gaming. And 90% of everyone I know tires of Wii, not because of the graphics, but because motion control games are nothing more than gimmicks, and stop being fun after a while. Not to mention, most everyone I know feel it kinda defeats the purpose of video gaming to be swinging crap around like an idiot.

My Wii is essentially just an emulator now. I'll never even consider buying Move, ever.

[kid41212003]

Motion controller is not for hardcore gamers. I will get the PS Move just because I don't want to buy the Wii, and because I want to swing crap around like an idiot!

[Arciks]

Originally Posted by Wile E

Motion controllers will never be for real gaming. And 90% of everyone I know tires of Wii, not because of the graphics, but because motion control games are nothing more than gimmicks, and stop being fun after a while. Not to mention, most everyone I know feel it kinda defeats the purpose of video gaming to be swinging crap around like an idiot.

My Wii is essentially just an emulator now. I'll never even consider buying Move, ever.

In shooting games I would consider move as a mouse that lucks in ps3 so its faster to aim and more accurate than with gamepad I think

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by wahdangun

yeah, lucky for me i never buy X-box and the HD-dvd, i almost take the bite, but i go for PS3 eventually, but ms really piss out a lot of people because ms promised they will release games for HD-dvd

i hope this time ms can keep their promise for kinec

Originally Posted by CDdude55

Microsoft promised to released games on HD DVD?, well HD DVD failed out to Blu-ray, so i don't think they will holding that promise anymore.

No, MS said from the very beginning that they would not release games on HD-DVD.

And I did buy an HD-DVD add on. But I did it mostly for the PC, as it was the cheapest HD-DVD rom at the time.

Originally Posted by Arciks

In shooting games I would consider move as a mouse that lucks in ps3 so its faster to aim and more accurate than with gamepad I think

Shooting games belong on PC anyway.

[jmcslob]

My feelings on this are Move/Kinect are stupid gimmicks that will never go anywhere..
Wii is Garbage and has been from day 1 Funny how the Wii outsells for consoles but where are they on Game sales?..

I believe MS is selling something 2x more games than Wii with fewer consoles being sold..
That really speaks Volumes imo.

Wii is cheaper for a reason..
and it's comtrollers are Garbage imo

[mdsx1950]

Wii users and ""Move"" users aren't gamers. Real gamers, game on PC

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Why do you fight the Wii's blatant superiority in the console world? Even the demigods Sony and Microsoft have officially caved. Its over. Wii won.

Spoken like a true Wii fanboi How many people own Wii's, yet they sit there gathering dust? let me tell you, a lot

Originally Posted by mdsx1950

Wii users and ""Move"" users aren't gamers. Real gamers, game on PC

Anyone that likes to play video games, is a 'gamer' No matter what platform you play them on. The fact that consoles have a bigger games catalogue than the PC is what draws me to them. Yeah, I enjoy FPS titles on the PC, but thats where it starts and ends really. I like having the option to play anything ie Halo Reach, Dead Rising 2, God of War III, Heavy Rain.....not just FPS or RTS titles

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

Anyone that likes to play video games, is a 'gamer' No matter what platfiorm you play them on

Nope. There are wannabe gamers, and real gamers. Real gamers use a PC and only use consoles for sports and exclusives.

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by Wile E

Nope. There are wannabe gamers, and real gamers. Real gamers use a PC and only use consoles for sports and exclusives.

LOL, thats ridiculous. Surely, to be an hardcore gamer, it depends on the amount of time you spend playing games and the number of titles you play or have played.

I would still class someone that plays a NES all day as a gamer. Its not about what platform you use, its about dedication.

So, because I dont PC game anymore, Im not a gamer? Ive had pretty much every console since the Atari and have also owned good gaming rigs. I would hate to think how many games Ive played in my lifetime. Ive seen both worlds, console gaming and PC gaming, but just because I now prefer to use a console for gaming, it doesnt mean Im no longer a gamer!

What your saying just feeds the statement about PC gamers being arrogant and elitest.

Saying "your only a gamer if you use a PC!", is like saying "your not a driver if you dont have a Ferrari!", its called bullshit!

[random]

Originally Posted by Wile E

Nope. There are wannabe gamers, and real gamers. Real gamers use a PC and only use consoles for sports and exclusives.

I only use my consoles for friends fam and exclusives. But not sure I'd go so far as to call non PC gamers wannabes.

Anyway camera motion sensors will always be superior and all, but it really depends on the games. Killzone 3 so far is looking good, and with the move capability its looking pretty tall with eliminating the gamepad disadvantage with aiming.