Finally able to upgrade! Buy now or wait for Sandy Bridge!?

dhdude · Sep 19, 2010, 11:35 PM

Hey guys,
I should finally be coming into some money in the next couple of weeks, and I'll finally be able to scratch that terrible upgrade itch!

I'm on a bit of a budget, but have several options;

A) Upgrade to 45nm, 12mb L2 Core 2 Quad, keeping existing parts, but maybe buy some DDR3 to go with it that I could possibly carry over to my next rig

B)Upgrade to new mobo, cpu and RAM; thinking 1156 i5 760 or Xeon X3440

C) Wait till Sandy Bridge in Q1 2011?

I'm feeling the inadequacy of my current CPU, previous circumstances forcing me to downgrade from a Q9550 to this, and my uses benefit from those extra threads!

So what do you think?

dhdude · Sep 19, 2010, 11:36 PM

Sorry I mis-posted in the wrong section, if a mod could move it to the system builder's advice section that'd be great? Really sorry!

mudkip · Sep 19, 2010, 11:39 PM

A) Upgrade CPu/Mem then wait for sandybridge

blu3flannel · Sep 19, 2010, 11:44 PM

It's only going to be about 3-4 months, I'd suggest holding out until Sandy Bridge and upgrading then.

p_o_s_pc · Sep 19, 2010, 11:49 PM

just grab another stick of ram so you can have 4gb and dual channel and wait.

(FIH) The Don · Sep 19, 2010, 11:55 PM

get a used q6600, q9550 or similat, it will be a massive boost, and as pos said, get another stick of memory

Chevalr1c · Sep 19, 2010, 11:55 PM

Wait for AMD Llano/Intel Sandy Bridge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by (FIH) The Don

get a used q6600, q9550 or similat, it will be a massive boost, and as pos said, get another stick of memory

IMHO that only makes sense if he can upgrade the RAM to DDR2-1066 (DDR@-667 is probably a huge bottleneck for a C2Q)

dhdude · Sep 20, 2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

just grab another stick of ram so you can have 4gb and dual channel and wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevalr1c

IMHO that only makes sense if he can upgrade the RAM to DDR2-1066 (DDR@-667 is probably a huge bottleneck for a C2Q)

Yeah, if I do upgrade to a Core 2 Quad, Ill buy some DDR3 (I have a board that has 4xDDR2 and 2xDDR3 slots) that I can carry over to my next build

LAN_deRf_HA · Sep 20, 2010, 12:07 AM

I'd say wait for sandybridge. New cpus/sockets seem to last a bit longer than other parts these days.

Achilles1600 · Sep 20, 2010, 02:11 AM

Is sandybrige going to be a new socket.?

(FIH) The Don · Sep 20, 2010, 02:14 AM

yes 1155

Achilles1600 · Sep 20, 2010, 02:17 AM

Dang it i just got my 1156 socket 2 month's ago.

dhdude · Sep 20, 2010, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles1600

Dang it i just got my 1156 socket 2 month's ago.

Sorry Achilles

Just a quick update guys, I found a brand new Q9450 for £150, so I snapped it up! Considering the Q9550 goes for around £230 over here, and the Q9650 for £260ish, I didn't think I got a bad deal, did I?
I'll grab 2x4gb DDR3 sticks over the next couple of months, so I can overclock, and also maybe carry those sticks over to a new rig further on down the line.

Now I've bought this, I'll prob hold out till the Sandy Bridge replacement for 1366 comes out near the end of next year.

What do you guys think, if I do some mild OC'ing will my new CPU good enough to last another year without bottlenecking any single GPU cards out now and in the near future?

f22a4bandit · Sep 20, 2010, 11:59 PM

You'll be fine doing what you're planning. The RAM is what would hold you back on the performance more than the CPU you just picked up.

mtosev · Sep 21, 2010, 07:23 AM

C)

spending money now is pointless as new gen cpu are coming in 4mounths time

Hayder_Master · Sep 21, 2010, 09:12 AM

no way, sure best thing is sandy bridge, you can pickup used cpu and good solutions are search for xeon x3210-x3220 or core 2 quad q6600-q9500-q9550

for me cheap used quad core will be very useful, like q8400-q8500 and it can run everything until today

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Sep 21, 2010, 09:45 AM

A Q9650 / Q9550 E0 with a low vid. That would bring you a lot (If you add overclocking in equation). Then wait for sandy / bulldozer

puma99dk| · Sep 21, 2010, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles1600

Dang it i just got my 1156 socket 2 month's ago.

it's running on a upgraded version of the P55 Chipset called v2 that's what i have heard but what's more it's should be LGA1155 as The Don says but we will see what Intel have done when they release it.

dhdude · Sep 21, 2010, 12:53 PM

Thanks guys, as I said I scored a brand new Q9450 (rare now I know) for £150 here in the UK, which is pretty good considering Q9550s are £230 now, so I'll be OC'ing shortly, just need some new ram first, that'll come over the next few weeks.

Still wanna get Sandy Bridge but this should hold me out for the next year, from what I read it looks like a big improvement over existing i7s; if anyone's interested Anandtech have a preview of the Sandy Bridge with benchmarks

Hayder_Master · Sep 21, 2010, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhdude

Thanks guys, as I said I scored a brand new Q9450 (rare now I know) for £150 here in the UK, which is pretty good considering Q9550s are £230 now, so I'll be OC'ing shortly, just need some new ram first, that'll come over the next few weeks.

Still wanna get Sandy Bridge but this should hold me out for the next year, from what I read it looks like a big improvement over existing i7s; if anyone's interested Anandtech have a preview of the Sandy Bridge with benchmarks

ok i know some sure things about sandy bridge
1-it's overclocked at 4.9ghz on air
2-when it's run on stock speed with turbo boost on it's beat all core i7 1156 which 860 and 870, also it's beat almost all core i7 1366 with 4 cores and beat core i7 980x in some tests
i will try search again to give this links but im very sure i see this tests in respectable sites.

you going to live in haven man keep dreaming and wait for it

overclocking101 · Sep 22, 2010, 12:46 AM

sandy bridge will be good if you he a K cpu otherwise you will not be able to overclock it at all due to intel locking the blck, i will not be getting sandy bridge unless the 1366 replacement has bclck changing possibilites. imo locking the base clock was a bad move. budget buyers buy for overclocked potential for cheap not to be at a set speed. I would hold out with what you have (q9450 and some quality DDR3) until the next gen comes out

hat · Sep 22, 2010, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overclocking101

sandy bridge will be good if you he a K cpu otherwise you will not be able to overclock it at all due to intel locking the blck, i will not be getting sandy bridge unless the 1366 replacement has bclck changing possibilites. imo locking the base clock was a bad move. budget buyers buy for overclocked potential for cheap not to be at a set speed. I would hold out with what you have (q9450 and some quality DDR3) until the next gen comes out

People have been saying this sort of thing since before 775 came out. If Intel did that, they would end up handing AMD a good chuck of the enthusiast market. I certianly won't be paying $300 for a cpu with an unlocked multi so I can overclock... I want to overclock the $100 cpu just like we have been able to for ages.

crazyeyesreaper · Sep 22, 2010, 07:45 AM

its been proven Hat intel wants users to pay $50 to unlock there cpus

it will be cracked in days of release and what not but point is they DID do it this time

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Sep 22, 2010, 11:02 AM

Q9450 is good. That would edge out @ 3.6ghz stable for 24/7 realistically

<<Onafets>> · Sep 22, 2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles1600

Dang it i just got my 1156 socket 2 month's ago.

Just break off a pin!

Sep 19, 2010, 11:35 PM	#1
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Sep 19, 2010, 11:36 PM	#2
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Sep 20, 2010, 02:17 AM	#12
Achilles1600 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: edmonton alberta canada Posts: 276 (0.19/day) Thanks: 160 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts System Specs	Dang it i just got my 1156 socket 2 month's ago.

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CRT/LCD Model:	Dell/Alienware AW2310 + 19" HDTV // 19" HDTV
Case:	Antec SOHO 1030B // some really old white case... but it's decent
Sound Card:	Creative X-Fi Fatality Professional // onboard (disabled)
PSU:	Antec NeoHe 550W // Corsair CX600w
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium x64 // Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Benchmarks:	zunn zunnzunn zunn zunn

Sep 22, 2010, 07:45 AM	#23
crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,011 (3.96/day) Thanks: 760 Thanked 2,219 Times in 1,556 Posts System Specs	its been proven Hat intel wants users to pay $50 to unlock there cpus it will be cracked in days of release and what not but point is they DID do it this time

System Name:	Black Box
Processor:	Ivy Bridge 3770K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard:	Biostar TZ77XE4
Cooling:	Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro
Memory:	Mushkin Redlines 1866 9-10-9-28-1T 2x4gb (8gb)
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 670 FTW at 1050 base 1179 boost
Hard Disk:	120gb Adata S510 ssd + 5.5 TB storage
Optical Drive:	LG Dual layer sata burner
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung T24A350 1920x1080, Junk Sanyo TV 1440x900
Case:	Fractal Designs Define XL Black Pearl
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050W 80+ GOLD
Software:	Windows 7 64bit Professional

Sep 22, 2010, 11:02 AM	#24
Bjorn_Of_Iceland Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Húsið mitt Posts: 2,606 (1.33/day) Thanks: 479 Thanked 356 Times in 265 Posts System Specs	Q9450 is good. That would edge out @ 3.6ghz stable for 24/7 realistically __________________ SIEG HEIL!!