TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[KieX]

Whoa, damn. As much as I like BOINC sometimes it really does some strange stuff. I suppose waiting won't for this kind of problem though

Keep us posted if you find a solution. Starting to think at this rate there'll be enough material to start a tech support thread for WCG

[[Ion]]

There might be. I'm not too worried, it doesn't seem to hurt PPD too badly

Maybe a newer BOINC would fix it. I'll see what's available later

[Chicken Patty]

BOINC might do weird stuff, but I do prefer it over F@H clients. No offense as I fold my self, but man I've had nightmares with F@H.

[[Ion]]

As have I, especially w/ multiple GPUs. BOINC is just an install and forget, no need to mess with different client types, multiple clients, flags, etc. It just (for the most part) works

[Chicken Patty]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

As have I, especially w/ multiple GPUs. BOINC is just an install and forget, no need to mess with different client types, multiple clients, flags, etc. It just (for the most part) works

Yeah, and lucky me both of my rigs have dual core video cards However, my GX2 is not folding anymore. It'll be out of the rig soon, just produced wayyyy tooo much heat everything else wanted to catch fire when the GX2 was folding!

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

Yeah, and lucky me both of my rigs have dual core video cards However, my GX2 is not folding anymore. It'll be out of the rig soon, just produced wayyyy tooo much heat everything else wanted to catch fire when the GX2 was folding!

Well, I'm sorry to see it go

A GTX470 would be nice, lower power usage & better PPD

Or even a GTX460

W/ my 9600GT & GTX260 folding and the OCed i7 crunching, my rig draws ~425w

Makes it very hot in here

[Chicken Patty]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Well, I'm sorry to see it go

A GTX470 would be nice, lower power usage & better PPD

Or even a GTX460

W/ my 9600GT & GTX260 folding and the OCed i7 crunching, my rig draws ~425w

Makes it very hot in here

Well apart from the 295 I have a 8800 coming so that should make up for a bit of the lost PPD of the GX2. I will expand later on, just can't do so now. When I build my 3rd rig I'll get into folding hardcore.

[[Ion]]

What sort of 8800?

A 3rd real rig is a dream for me, as is I'm contemplating a 2nd (mostly for crunching).

What do you think I should do? Get a cheap P55 board, an i3 530, and a cheap PSU, steal 1GB from my i7 and set up that? Or (what I'm leaning towards), an i3 or an AII X4 45w, an ITX case, and then a H55/880G board? The ITX setup would be a bit more expensive and couldn't OC, but would use less power, be smaller, and hopefully then it could be on more.

Or just build a DP Sossaman rig. They're about $200, do ~1.3k (BOINC) and use under 100w. But they're big (EATX boards)

Or maybe just try and get more @ NCSU crunching, they're free and I don't have to worry about electric

[Chicken Patty]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

What sort of 8800?

A 3rd real rig is a dream for me, as is I'm contemplating a 2nd (mostly for crunching).

What do you think I should do? Get a cheap P55 board, an i3 530, and a cheap PSU, steal 1GB from my i7 and set up that? Or (what I'm leaning towards), an i3 or an AII X4 45w, an ITX case, and then a H55/880G board? The ITX setup would be a bit more expensive and couldn't OC, but would use less power, be smaller, and hopefully then it could be on more.

Or just build a DP Sossaman rig. They're about $200, do ~1.3k (BOINC) and use under 100w. But they're big (EATX boards)

Or maybe just try and get more @ NCSU crunching, they're free and I don't have to worry about electric

I think the last option works the best

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

I think the last option works the best

But I want a 2nd rig, preferably low-power and small

Of the options for a 2nd rig, what do you think is best?

[p_o_s_pc]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Well GL

My issue w/ FAH is mostly that my dad suspends internet access for me overnight.....so 7 hrs with no WUs sucks

BOINC FTW!

I don't understand why he would do that but i'm sure there has to be a reason for it

as for the 2nd rig. I would go with the i3 just because they can overclock like mad or undervolt if needed. The 45w x4 would most likely be at its limit for undervolting.

[Chicken Patty]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

But I want a 2nd rig, preferably low-power and small

Of the options for a 2nd rig, what do you think is best?

I think an i3 or the AII X4 in a ITX case will better suit what you are looking for.

[p_o_s_pc]

i got to ask... Is a Intel Dual core Atom even worth it for crunching?
I was thinking about getting a tiny case and a Atom along with 2 lappy HDD's and having that as a small low power file server (and maybe a FEAR server when i have friends over that want to play)

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

I don't understand why he would do that but i'm sure there has to be a reason for it

as for the 2nd rig. I would go with the i3 just because they can overclock like mad or undervolt if needed. The 45w x4 would most likely be at its limit for undervolting.

To get me to go to sleep at some reasonable time and not stay up chatting all night with you guys

I'm also leaning towards the i3, I figure I should be able to OC a bit, even in an ITX setup (probably going to go for one of the larger ITX cases). I'd like to have room for a GTS450/GTX460 as well (small gaming setup to take with me)

Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

i got to ask... Is a Intel Dual core Atom even worth it for crunching?
I was thinking about getting a tiny case and a Atom along with 2 lappy HDD's and having that as a small low power file server (and maybe a FEAR server when i have friends over that want to play)

Well it's faster than my server (PentM 1.4ghz). But I'd expect maybe ~500 PPD tops

[theonedub]

Atom for WCG? I want to say no, install BOINC then run the benchmark and see what numbers it gives you. I don't remember the exact figure, but when I had WCG setup on my CULV it was pretty bad

Let me know what numbers you get if you decide to try it out though

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by theonedub

Atom for WCG? I want to say no, install BOINC then run the benchmark and see what numbers it gives you. I don't remember the exact figure, but when I had WCG setup on my CULV it was pretty bad

Let me know what numbers you get if you decide to try it out though

Pretty sure the single-core 230 is a tad better than my PentM 1.4ghz, which does not quite 200 PPD. So the 330 or one of the newer 500-series Atoms should do a tad shy of 500

[p_o_s_pc]

Originally Posted by theonedub

Atom for WCG? I want to say no, install BOINC then run the benchmark and see what numbers it gives you. I don't remember the exact figure, but when I had WCG setup on my CULV it was pretty bad

Let me know what numbers you get if you decide to try it out though

i may not even waste my money on a a atom. May just pick up a Sempron or low a AII X2 when i get some $$
thanks for the input.

as for power draw i'm sure that a sempron 140 undervolted wouldn't be alot more then a overclocked Atom

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

i may not even waste my money on a a atom. May just pick up a Sempron or low a AII X2 when i get some $$
thanks for the input.

as for power draw i'm sure that a sempron 140 undervolted wouldn't be alot more then a overclocked Atom

Well a Celeron E3200 is about 700-800 PPD, and uses only ~10w more than ATOM. So that's what I'd get. And it would OC nicely.

Atom isn't worth it IMO, I considered an ION for my (hopefully upcoming) ITX setup, but the Celeron E3200/Geforce 9300 was ~$20 more, so I decided that I'd pass on Atom

[theonedub]

I like the Sempron option better. I am very impressed with the Sempron 140 I built a little while ago. A very high success rate when unlocking also sweetens the deal.

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by theonedub

I like the Sempron option better. I am very impressed with the Sempron 140 I built a little while ago. A very high success rate when unlocking also sweetens the deal.

Unlocking is a risky game I wouldn't play (considering the price of a real dual). IMO, for a low power setup, an AII X2 45w is probably the best for the $, unless you want to spring for an i3

[p_o_s_pc]

thanks for the input.
I'm just looking at really cheap(to build and to run) options for a file server/cruncher sometime in the future.
If i went with a Semperon (or even dual core celly) i could then get a M-atx board and have a PCI-E slot for later on and more flexibility for case/PSU options.

[[Ion]]

That sounds good

An X2 and cheap AM2+/AM3 board should be under $150...about as much as an ION ITX board...and far faster

Not a hard choice, unless you want ITX (and I do)

[theonedub]

Frys used to run a deal on Sempron 140s: CPU and archaic mATX Nforce board for $26.99. Almost every other week they would sell it. Thats where I got my 140 from, but they have not run the deal since.

[p_o_s_pc]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

That sounds good

An X2 and cheap AM2+/AM3 board should be under $150...about as much as an ION ITX board...and far faster

Not a hard choice, unless you want ITX (and I do)

i'm just thinking i want something that won't take up much space. ITX isn't needed one of the smaller M-atx setups would be just fine with me.
goals of the project would be

cheap
low power draw
low heat
decent cruncher
decent speed (nothing super fast or slow)
silent(couple low speed fans should cool something like i have planed just fine)

i think the goals could be met with a undervolted Aii x2 or undervolted Sempron 140

@onedub wow that is cheap!

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

i'm just thinking i want something that won't take up much space. ITX isn't needed one of the smaller M-atx setups would be just fine with me.
goals of the project would be

cheap
low power draw
low heat
decent cruncher
decent speed (nothing super fast or slow)
silent(couple low speed fans should cool something like i have planed just fine)

i think the goals could be met with a undervolted Aii x2 or undervolted Sempron 140

@onedub wow that is cheap!

Sounds to me like a 785G or 760G board and an AII X2 45w is what you might want. ~700 PPD, ~sub-75w, quiet, small, etc.

My A05S is about the size of many mATX cases, hence why I want ITX (mATX isn't much smaller)

MC and Frys frequently have great deals, if they exist in your area