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Old Oct 8, 2010, 07:05 PM   #26
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at least this re-branding makes actual sense
As much sense as nVidia's renames...
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Old Oct 8, 2010, 07:10 PM   #27
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Don't really care about the confusing branding, as long as the performance, price and power consumption is good. It's just marketing bulls**t.
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So let's see, AMD have much reduced competition from nvidia, they've seen how nvidia trashed their reputation by doing this and AMD are in pole position to cleanup on sales, so.......... they rebrand?!

I don't fucking believe it.

Be interesting to see if Charlie Demerjian (he of the vitriolic anti nvidia rants) tears into AMD the same way.
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This is just too bad. Guess I'll stay away from the lower end 6xxx series as they are not true 6xxx cards, just recycled 5xxx.
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Ati is far in the lead. so Ati/AMD can afford stuff like this. if nvidia was strong ATi woudn't do something like this. makes sense for them. resell older stuff with a newer name to ppl who don't know they are buying old tech
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Ati is far in the lead. so Ati/AMD can afford stuff like this. if nvidia was strong ATi woudn't do something like this. makes sense for them. resell older stuff with a newer name to ppl who don't know they are buying old tech
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Old Oct 8, 2010, 07:46 PM   #32
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NV has been doing shit like this for years for gods sake, and people are acting like they have never seen anything like it, for gods sake people get a grip.

How many fricken generations did NV rebadge the same cards? 8800>9800>GTS250

I see this is the same technique NV has used, whilst your current gen lineup is on top, incrementally improve the high end cards and rebrand the mid range and bam you have a new gen of cards that hordes will buy A) cause some people will want the best high end cards period (dual or single gpu, doesn't matter) and B) cause some people are too dumb to know the mid range is a just a fricken rebadge
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im not sure what everyone is getting so crazy about this was only surposed to be a refresh, there are new chips coming.
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Old Oct 8, 2010, 07:57 PM   #34
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None of this in confirmed yet. Why is this a big deal?
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Old Oct 8, 2010, 08:00 PM   #35
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None of this in confirmed yet. Why is this a big deal?
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haha spot on lol
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http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey




It's teh internet silly dummy. :P
Sorry its been DAYS since I could post. Been moving. I've already forgot this is the interwebz. Anyway this is very unlike Bta to post rumors.
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Old Oct 8, 2010, 08:05 PM   #38
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It's teh internet silly dummy. :P
Well, I'm not sure if Steams survey is reliable as the graph hasn't been updated in 4 months now. Perhaps they discontinued it in some way . But as for the OP I'm not sure what to make of it. It's either one or the other. We pretty much got that part already. But will have to wait and see once it's launched.
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Well, I'm not sure if Steams survey is reliable as the graph hasn't been updated in 4 months now. Perhaps they discontinued it in some way . But as for the OP I'm not sure what to make of it. It's either one or the other. We pretty much got that part already. But will have to wait and see once it's launched.
It says September 2010 right up top.
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Nvidia sold less this generation because they were late, pretty simple imo.

ahh rumors rumors, lets see how it works out.
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It says September 2010 right up top.
I noticed, but the graph itself has remained the same since June 2010.
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The 5 series denotes an architecture shift from the 4 series.

To rename a 5 series architecture as a 6 series piece without having the associated changes in design, well it's pretty miserable. I thought it was dick when NV did it and it certainly will be if AMD do it too.

But if it has ramped down elements of Barts then it can be called 6 whatever, as it's a changed design. Guess we have to see?

But many posters are right - you should buy your kit based on sound reviews. People that buy tech without doing any basic research shouldn't be buying tech at all. So in the big scheme it's no biggie to me but imo it's a marketting hand job.

That being said, it's no reason to buy green as someone posted - thats even more ignorant. You buy what's best for your system, green red or blue (in 25 yrs when Intel makes a decent gfx unit).
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C'mon dude.. We all ready know its just rumors.. Dont believe it if the card have been release yet,Here in internet everything can happen.. (maybe some one spread this rumor just for laugh or somethin) for me,i will never believe the rumor if i didnt see the card review and benchmark from my own eyes,
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If I were to take a guess in all this AMD maybe aligning their scaling from top to bottom that leaves no discernible gaps unlike previous generations. It should suggest competitive prices but I still would like to see how they are priced 1st.

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Although just a guess if true would indicate more cards to choose from with the 6000 series then with the 5000 series

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If the 6870 is slower than the 5870 (think it will be) ... it would look very weird on graphs when the benchmarks come out ....
Would changing the name from 6770 to 6870 not imply that it is faster than the 5870 to the point that they think they can sell it as such? A 6770 would be forced to sell for less because it is a "lower-tier" card, even if it's faster than the 5870. A 6870, however, even if it is the same exact chip, can justifiably release at the same price the 5870 currently runs, or higher.

Basically, I think they would have a tough time selling a 6770 at a 5870 price, even if it really is faster.
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shouldn't 5750 be juniper PRO instead of juniper LE?
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Well I guess I'm just glad to see some power efficiency.

I'll have my 5770 for awhile I figure, I might play 2 hours of games a week now.
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Wow, that's very disappointing.

Here's hoping for some kick ass high end cards.
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Wow, that's very disappointing.

Here's hoping for some kick ass high end cards.
I'm with you on this one..Hoping also for kick azz high end stuff..we shall see.
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