XFX Radeon HD 6850 Pictured, Detailed

[Animalpak]

naahh i will wait the 78xxx series

[Mindweaver]

The card looks good!

I wonder? will they make a 6990 XT PE... hehehe

[N3M3515]

Originally Posted by mdsx1950

Thanks for that.



That was what i was referring to. Because i remembered thanking your post.

What wiz said is that 5800 series is NOT just 5870, BUT 5830, 5850, 5870.
So, 6870 at best is equal or sightly slower than a 5870 being optimistic
And 6850 is equal or sightly slower than 5850.


btw the54thvoid, if 6870 performance is between 5830 and 5850, that would suck BIG TIME.

[Anusha]

Better to wait for the proper reviews.

[H82LUZ73]

Oh boy you guys forget these were supposed to be the 6770 line right?

It makes sense for AMD to have them between the 5830-5850 when crossfire what will they do 5870-5970 ?The guy above posting an old fake 3870x2 please see the article with the comparison to Nvidia. The 6970 is a single chip so AMD can take back the crown it is to compete with the gtx480.....The 6990 is the dual killer of all cards.

[crow1001]

Leaked Dirt 2 performance, 6850>6870 v 460 768>460 1GB



1120 = 6870

960 = 6850


Ultra DX11 at 1920x1200, 8xAA, 16xAF.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade...ked/10091.html

[the54thvoid]

Bah, i hate to be pessimistic (or wary?) but I'll need to see proper un biased and official results (TPU, Anand, Hexus being my three core sites) before saying, gosh!!

But if true, good start but Cayman XT is where i'm looking at. I want a single card with above 5870 performance. Woulda bought GTX 480 but meh...

And yes, would love to get rid of my crossfire set up to get a single solution.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Initialised

6970?

http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/...5_15ati600.jpg

I'm gonna get this if thats the case.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

Bah, i hate to be pessimistic (or wary?) but I'll need to see proper un biased and official results (TPU, Anand, Hexus being my three core sites) before saying, gosh!!

But if true, good start but Cayman XT is where i'm looking at. I want a single card with above 5870 performance. Woulda bought GTX 480 but meh...

And yes, would love to get rid of my crossfire set up to get a single solution.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I want a single card that can push 3 monitors, and the 5970 just doesn't cut it. But at the same time, I'm offloading my 5870's, because I have no confidence in AMD's ability to actually do 3 monitors right...my cards work great with just a single monitor, and then I only need one card.

Of course, it looks like we might have to wait until next year to get decent gpus...not that this is surprising to me personally, but it's still a disappointment when I've been waiting since September last year for a decent multi-monitor solution.

And if these cards don't offer that, I'm not interested, at all. If there are no multi-monitor reviews, I'm not gonna buy either...I want cards for a specific use, and current cards meet all other basic needs, and I bought last time with no reviews; look how THAT turned out.

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I'm gonna get this if thats the case.

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...ndom/69990.jpg

That's a photoshop of a 2900XT, FYI. If you want a photoshopped picture, that can definately be arranged. PM me.

[1Kurgan1]

Nope, thats a photoshop that I just made of the picture he linked, looked way too long for me, so I made it even longer. I did a crappy job though as I'm at college and didn't feel like getting into fine details. I'm bored (notice the file name, 69990, I was going to go for more cores, but I think my instructor is watching me)

[cadaveca]

Heh..it's still a 2900XT.

[1Kurgan1]

lol, thats great, photoshop too look too long, then I go and add another GPU onto it, total win.

[AsRock]

Originally Posted by Initialised

6970?

http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/...5_15ati600.jpg

Maybe just me but looks like there is some VRMs missing as in not enough of them.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by AsRock

Maybe just me but looks like there is some VRMs missing as in not enough of them.

The RageTheatre chip died many moons ago too(by lower DVO pirt close to PCI-E connector). Should have been the first sign it was fake.(nevermind I have been seeing the same picture for a few years now).

[Sasqui]

Perf comparisons and speculations aside, the pics don't show the power connectors. Also, the XFX box shows a big "5" - perhaps doing away with the "lifetime" warrantee?

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Sasqui

Perf comparisons and speculations aside, the pics don't show the power connectors. Also, the XFX box shows a big "5" - perhaps doing away with the "lifetime" warrantee?

Nah, that's thier "5-Star Support" garbage...kinda hate that bit..beucase they use the cheapest shipping possible for RMAs...I can ship something into the US withing 3 days, for them, it takes 17 days. Heck, I ahd to call them up to get the mto send me a replacement...they would have had me wait until someone RMA'ed a card that would work for me. I'd cal lthat false advertizing....thier service is hardly "5-Star"...they should take some lessons from Dell.

Yes, you read that right...Dell has better support.

More info here:

http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/features/5...spx?lang=en-gb

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Nah, that's thier "5-Star Support" garbage...kinda hate that bit..beucase they use the cheapest shipping possible for RMAs...I can ship something into the US withing 3 days, for them, it takes 17 days. Heck, I ahd to call them up to get the mto send me a replacement...they would have had me wait until someone RMA'ed a card that would work for me. I'd cal lthat false advertizing....thier service is hardly "5-Star"...they should take some lessons from Dell.

Yes, you read that right...Dell has better support.

More info here:

http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/features/5...spx?lang=en-gb

I had to replace a card with them not too long ago. I found it slow too. However, once they determined the item to be "defective", it was shipped out the next day. All told about a 2-week turn-around.

[cadaveca]

Well, my card was found defective, and they did not, and were not, going to ship until I called them up. It's already been two weeks..they shipped my card on friday(I called on Thursday)...and it's not expected to arrive until NEXT WEEK. I even had to call 'em up for them to confirm they even received my card...2 days after they had accepted it.

And then, because they are so stupid in shipping choices, I'll have to pay customs broker charges(I run my own business, act as my own broker, and do not pay taxes on stuff like this).


Nevermind it costs me $35 at least to ship to them. Their 5-Star Support crap says they work to get you your card back as fast as possible, yet my experience(with many cards RMA'ed to them now, all tested faulty) greatly discredits thier claims to decent service. They've lied to me, missed the obvious in troubleshooting an issue(told me the problem was impossible, yet it was as simple as the card overheating)...

If you live in the US, it seems thier turnaround is much better, and in all honestly, it's not the worst, but it's definately far from the best. I'd not say a word if it weren't for thier audacious claims.

Del lstuff might be overpriced, but that extra cost goes into alot of thier support network. Heck, Dell even pays for shipping on items returned to them, and do not require a deposit for cross-shipping RMAs. I understand Dell is a bigger company, but at the same time, they don't make any claims they fail to uphold, at least in my experience.

[lashton]

the fact of the matter is that NO ONE knows until its released

[dir_d]

release date is friday 22nd

[DriedFrogPills]

3 more days until the NDA is lifted and we get answers

[bear jesus]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Of course, it looks like we might have to wait until next year to get decent gpus...not that this is surprising to me personally, but it's still a disappointment when I've been waiting since September last year for a decent multi-monitor solution.

And if these cards don't offer that, I'm not interested, at all. If there are no multi-monitor reviews, I'm not gonna buy either...I want cards for a specific use, and current cards meet all other basic needs, and I bought last time with no reviews; look how THAT turned out.

i really hope the 6970 does well with a triple monitor setup otherwise amd will be pushing me to get a couple 1gb 460's in sli to be able to run the 3 new monitors i will be buying with whatever card i buy... i really hope i have better luck than you, i also hope you have better luck than you have been having as well.
If i had not waited so long i proberley would be having simmilar problems to you and i admit i would be really pissed at amd by now.

[cadaveca]

Well, I mean, I'm critical of AMD, for sure, but it's not all bad.

Apparantly some people have no problems. But none that I've actually personally talked to(usually i can get the problems to manifest on onther people's rigs).

The one huge outstanding issue...Cursor corruption...should be fixed, if we can really run all three monitors off of DP. Time will tell, but unfortunately, very few sites are doing multi-monitor reviews.

5870, by itself, is great with my Dell 3007WFP. 2x, and I can run most games in DX9/10 with 8xAA. That's killer, in a single card.

DX11 sucks. Doesn't matter if it's AMD or nVidia, but most titles that I use eyefinity with also use DX11, and that greatly impacts framerates. I'm just a hard guy to please. I want perfection.

If you forgo the cursor corruption, and are OK with not maxing all in-game settings out, Crossfire Eyefinity works fine...needs more CPU than what I had, but I guess that was my own bad purchasing choices that left me with that one.

I'm expecting ALOT...and I do not think i will get what I want out of a single card. I was more than prepared to buy three cards for Eyefinity, but turns out three cards don't work so well, and every gpu you add increases cpu workload.


That's OK...I did have alot fo fun palying in eyefinity, but it's not ready for primetime with 5-series...I AM really hoping it's fixed with 6-series, but then, I think asking for good framerates in a single card is at least an year too early.

I'm very impatiently awaiting real specs and pics for Cayman...

[bear jesus]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

The one huge outstanding issue...Cursor corruption...should be fixed, if we can really run all three monitors off of DP. Time will tell, but unfortunately, very few sites are doing multi-monitor reviews.


If you forgo the cursor corruption, and are OK with not maxing all in-game settings out, Crossfire Eyefinity works fine...needs more CPU than what I had, but I guess that was my own bad purchasing choices that left me with that one.


That's OK...I did have alot fo fun palying in eyefinity, but it's not ready for primetime with 5-series...I AM really hoping it's fixed with 6-series, but then, I think asking for good framerates in a single card is at least an year too early.

I'm very impatiently awaiting real specs and pics for Cayman...

The cursor corruption is making me worry about my monitor choice, is running 3 monitors on display port a cause of it or something?
I still play mainly source engine games online with friends so i should still be able to max them out with ease

I'm very impatiently awaiting real specs for Cayman as well as i think it will have to easly beat 1gb 460 sli at triple monitor res to keep me away from nvidia, i really want to stick to a single card thus why i want to see the 6970 so bad but could not go for a faster nvidia gpu as i need 2 for triple monitor and the power/heat would be too much damn lack of time machines, a month is too long to wait

[cadaveca]

Honestly, I don't know what causes the cursor corruption. I know that first I was dealing with the cursor getting really large, and then it was corrupting after they fixed the big cursor part...


I assume that it's from the monitor handing off hardware-accelerated cursor from DVI to DP..it's like either the differing interfaces aren't able to hand off the memory space for the cursor quickly enough, and the next interface then isn't able to read the cursor properly, or jsut staright incompatibility...

But I'm guessing...all that I do know is that it occurs more often in 2D than 3D, and that the problem is now listed in driver release notes, so maybe driver can fix it.

Of course they HAVE had a year to fix the problem, and haven't, but I think they might pull the "we weren't able to replicate the issue, so were unable to fix it" when confronted on this problem.

I am very tempted to keep a 5-series card just to see how long it takes them to fix it, if they can. But that seems a bit stupid...even though I think that's what might be needed for them to fix the problem...constant reminders.