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Old Oct 31, 2010, 02:19 AM   #1
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The GTX 580 is NVIDIA's next flagship GPU. Being a single card utilizing their new GF110 chipset, the GTX 580 looks to be a very impressive product. Full specifications and release date have been revealed!
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Well, I am glad I waited to November to purchase my next video card. It will either be a 69xx or a GTX 580.
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I don't get where this performance increase is coming from. There already was a one off 512 version of the 480 reviewed, it only performed 5% better and used insanely more power. A small clock bump shouldn't be adding another 20% improvement.
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The GTX 580 is the replacement for the current GTX 480, which did very well in our review. With the GTX 580, NVIDIA hopes to not only improve performance but also improve efficiency, making this card run cooler and use less power! The specifications for the GTX 580 are as follows.


The GTX 580 uses the GF110 chipset, which is a reworked GTX 480.
I am assuming it is like a car. They rework their base engines to increase the horsepower for other variants of the same car.
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so they reworked the GF100 based on what they learned from the GF104 so this card should use less power but I'm going to hold my breath on this, the GF104 isn't that much faster than the GF100 like most people say it is, more than a solution for lowering the power requirements and increase clock speeds but at the same clock as a similar GF100 part it always loses.

i wanna see how it compares to a GTX480 at the same clock.

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Seems to be a re-worked memory contoller and better/more expensive power delivery stuff. 10 - 15% performance gains sounds fairly legit.
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so they reworked the GF100 based on what they learned from the GF104 so this card should use less power but I'm going to hold my breath on this, the GF104 isn't that much faster than the GF100 like most people say it is, more than a solution for lowering the power requirements and increase clock speeds but at the same clock as a similar GF100 part it always loses.

i wanna see how it compares to a GTX480 at the same clock.
GF104 isn't faster, unless you're referring specifically to clock speeds. It's not an enthusiast chipset like GF100. If you had a GTX 480 running at those speeds, you'd have a 46.320 billion/sec texture fill rate vs the 580's 49.4 billion/sec. You'd also have the same pixel fill rate and same memory bandwidth. GTX 580 is just a refresh so not much more powerful, but it is supposed to have fixed some of the thermal design issues with the GTX 480 which turned off lots of customers. If you have a GTX 480 don't bother with this card.
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GF104 isn't faster, unless you're referring specifically to clock speeds. It's not an enthusiast chipset like GF100. If you had a GTX 480 running at those speeds, you'd have a 46.320 billion/sec texture fill rate vs the 580's 49.4 billion/sec. You'd also have the same pixel fill rate and same memory bandwidth. GTX 580 is just a refresh so not much more powerful, but it is supposed to have fixed some of the thermal design issues with the GTX 480 which turned off lots of customers. If you have a GTX 480 don't bother with this card.
What I hate. Is how dam fast ATI and Nvidia are really moving threw the video cards.

ATI HD 5000 series cards have barly hit the age of 1 year

and Nvidia GTX 400 series cards are still under 10 months sense release.

ATI's HD 5000 series just barly settled in the mind of the not so informed gamers.

and theres a GTX 500 series already falling down the block

and HD 6000 series just came out of no were ALREADY,

To many video cards are coming out.

and in return, its barly for a 20% performance increase, so its bullshit, but it is better.
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wow. I wanted 128TMUs! DAMN you nvidia


My eyes got real (big) when i read that 30% increase in vantage

Nice to know they reworked the memory controller and got it to run more efficient. Looks like a winner on nvidia's hands if its not priced over $450


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What I hate. Is how dam fast ATI and Nvidia are really moving threw the video cards.

ATI HD 5000 series cards have barly hit the age of 1 year

and Nvidia GTX 400 series cards are still under 10 months sense release.

ATI's HD 5000 series just barly settled in the mind of the not so informed gamers.

and theres a GTX 500 series already falling down the block

and HD 6000 series just came out of no were ALREADY,

To many video cards are coming out.

and in return, its barly for a 20% performance increase, so its bullshit, but it is better.

I wouldn't say barely 20% increase. id say without a doubt 20% increase and could be more. Come on reviews!

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a little bit reading material
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/10/...h-gtx580-week/
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semiaccurate is a terrible source, but okay

They are just as bad as Fudzilla

God what a terrible read. Extremely Bias. they are all Ati fanboys just rippin apart nvidia
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one thing i dont get is why are they naming it 580 its not a new series its just a bug fixed 480 and should be named 485 what seems proper.
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one thing i dont get is why are they naming it 580 its not a new series its just a bug fixed 480 and should be named 485 what seems proper.
its nvida though. you know them and their naming
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only 20% faster would have expected them to try for more
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only 20% faster would have expected them to try for more
they noticed 30% more in vantage. and overclocking could be insane on this thing
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they noticed 30% more in vantage. and overclocking could be insane on this thing
well vantage is just a benchmark but that is true the oc could be crazy
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semiaccurate is a terrible source, but okay

They are just as bad as Fudzilla

God what a terrible read. Extremely Bias. they are all Ati fanboys just rippin apart nvidia
While I would normally agree with you on both of those statements..... Semi accurate has been fairly accurate as of late.

When the 5000 series released they were correct on specs and performance. When the GTX 400 series released they were also correct on it's performance and it's downside.

When the GTX 460 released they did praise the card saying it was great also they were correct on the performance on the GF104 too.

So far they have been correct on the 6000 series as well.

While I do agree their views at semi accurate are very on sided....I will also say that if you look past that part they have had their information correct as of late.
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While I would normally agree with you on both of those statements..... Semi accurate has been fairly accurate as of late.

When the 5000 series released they were correct on specs and performance. When the GTX 400 series released they were also correct on it's performance and it's downside.

When the GTX 460 released they did praise the card saying it was great also they were correct on the performance on the GF104 too.

So far they have been correct on the 6000 series as well.

While I do agree their views at semi accurate are very on sided....I will also say that if you look past that part they have had their information correct as of late.
It just sounds like their articles are written by like 5 year olds
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It just sounds like their articles are written by like 5 year olds
No I agree it does sound like..........."My card is beter then your card nan r nan r Boo Boo"

Agreed
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What I hate. Is how dam fast ATI and Nvidia are really moving threw the video cards.

ATI HD 5000 series cards have barly hit the age of 1 year

and Nvidia GTX 400 series cards are still under 10 months sense release.

ATI's HD 5000 series just barly settled in the mind of the not so informed gamers.

and theres a GTX 500 series already falling down the block

and HD 6000 series just came out of no were ALREADY,

To many video cards are coming out.

and in return, its barly for a 20% performance increase, so its bullshit, but it is better.

I totally agree with you on this.I had the GTX 470 soon after the release,but I wanted better performance,so I waited until the GTX 480 drops on price and got that one.And believe me or not,or at least my experience was like that it wasnt true that the GTX470 has better thermal performance than GTX480.so Im quite happy with mine...and now there is a GTX580 coming so soon?this product update policy is made to make those who like to have top performace,feel that they've just lost it...I mean why they just dont fine tune every product in every aspect?everybody would be happy to wait longer for a new line of product if the actual would be as good as possible.And to be honest both the red and the green team are in the terms of new technologies and functions not pulling out much.how could they right?in such a short time..

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semiaccurate is a terrible source, but okay

They are just as bad as Fudzilla

God what a terrible read. Extremely Bias. they are all Ati fanboys just rippin apart nvidia
Quote from that article: "..Heck, it won't be enough to beat the current champ, AMD's HD5970/Hemlock, much less the upcoming Cayman and Antilles parts. Is is going to be a slaughter.."
when people stop writing this bullshit??? Im not an NVIDIA fanboy,used ATI before..but for godshake the HD5970 is a godamn DUAL gpu,If Im right based on 2 5870's..If there would be a similar setup from NVIDIA..man that would be a (ATI)slaughter...
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Holy shit, that's going to be released in just over a week! If nVidia can pull that off, it just might save them.
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I would take any Nvidia card over an AMD card currently, even if the AMD card was slightly faster. Like say if the 6970 is 10% quicker than a 580, I would go 580. From my experience coming from a 5870 to a 480, Nvidia drivers are more stable, latest games are better supported on Nvidia hardware, the CP is 100x better than the CCC, power management sucks on AMD cards, with Nvidia at least you have an option to configure whether you want power management active in games or not. Overall AMD has decent hardware but IMO they are let down by poor drivers and software when compared to Nvidia, that is enough reason to take an Nvidia card over AMD even if it's slower.
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Do we have an MRRP yet?
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I would take any Nvidia card over an AMD card currently, even if the AMD card was slightly faster. Like say if the 6970 is 10% quicker than a 580, I would go 580. From my experience coming from a 5870 to a 480, Nvidia drivers are more stable, latest games are better supported on Nvidia hardware, the CP is 100x better than the CCC, power management sucks on AMD cards, with Nvidia at least you have an option to configure whether you want power management active in games or not. Overall AMD has decent hardware but IMO they are let down by poor drivers and software when compared to Nvidia, that is enough reason to take an Nvidia card over AMD even if it's slower.
By the way congrats on your GTX480 core speed.mine is showing artifacts over 810 core,so Im just keeping it at 800 perfectly stable..but maybe its because Im too high on shaders or/and memory...what are yours?
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