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Old Nov 28, 2010, 07:47 PM   #51
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well i was thinking of getting an i7 980 x , but it doesn't have EM64T,

thing is would i or do i need it?
I think you should maybe ask if you need the 980x, if an overclocked i7 2600k beats it and cost less than $320 then you could use the rest of the cost of a 980x for a new motherboard and faster ram while still having money left over.

I think you should wait and see what sandy bridge and more so it's 6 core variants can do before thinking about getting a 980x.
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Old Nov 28, 2010, 08:02 PM   #52
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well i was thinking of getting an i7 980 x , but it doesn't have EM64T,

thing is would i or do i need it?

980X DOES HAVE EMT64T IT IS NAMED Intel 64

you think they will sell flag ship product without all features?
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Old Nov 28, 2010, 08:02 PM   #53
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Is LGA-1366 dead?

Why is everyone comparing AMD's high-end to Intel's mid-range and then AMD Fanboys getting all excited that it might be close?

I am not AMD bashing as they do a fantastic job at a given price point, hence why i use them, but it would just be nice to see some completion at the true high-end for once in 5 years.

I am pretty sure Intel are only delaying their high-end LGA-2011 because they are worried about AMD and don't want the monopolies commission on their backs (again!). Why else would they pretty much kill all LGA-1366 sales by releasing a much cheaper range of chips with better clock-for-clock performance and from all accounts overclocks much better too.

What's more, if the timeline is to be believed then 22nm Ivy Bridge will be out just months after the LGA-2011 and so 'might' eclipse Intel's high-end once more, depends on how well 22nm overclocks etc.
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Old Nov 28, 2010, 08:13 PM   #54
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Why is everyone comparing AMD's high-end to Intel's mid-range and then AMD Fanboys getting all excited that it might be close?
Well, the problem is that the general consensus thinks that Intel's mid-high end (the 1155 platform) will be enough of a challenge for AMD's Bulldozer, but then again, AMD can only afford to run 1 "series" of chips while Intel can run at least 2. (For example, the entire desktop range of AMD is the Phenom II and its derivatives Athlon II and x6, while intel runs LGA1156 and 1366 at the same time). Also, higher end Bulldozers can well compete against 2011, but that's a bit far off.
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Well, the problem is that the general consensus thinks that Intel's mid-high end (the 1155 platform) will be enough of a challenge for AMD's Bulldozer, but then again, AMD can only afford to run 1 "series" of chips while Intel can run at least 2. (For example, the entire desktop range of AMD is the Phenom II and its derivatives Athlon II and x6, while intel runs LGA1156 and 1366 at the same time). Also, higher end Bulldozers can well compete against 2011, but that's a bit far off.
I agree with the people that are comparing Bulldozer against mid-range Sandy Bridge, i think at stock speeds they will be fairly competitive with one another. But i just don't understand why some people seem to be getting excited that the very best AMD has to offer, an 8-core CPU, might be able to beat Intel's mid-range 4-core CPUs.

The biggest issue for AMD is that in a perfect world Bulldozer would have been out 2 years ago. And the CPU world has moved on in those 2 years. I am sure there have tweaks and improvements to what would have come out 2 years ago but all the same, a product this late is going to be starting on the back foot from the get-go.

As always, the battle will be on the value front and i hope AMD can again deliver like it has been doing for so long. As for me, Intel’s 'K' variants seem to be priced pretty fairly. I think locking the overclocking to just those chips is going to annoy a lot of people but also make Intel an awful lot of money. No more turning an $80 chip into a $600 beast, if you want the performance you have to pay for it. Time to buy Intel shares!!
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Plus it supports DDR3-1866 default.
I believe 1155 supports 2133 as a default speed.
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well i was thinking of getting an i7 980 x , but it doesn't have EM64T,

thing is would i or do i need it?
Max, you need to do a little more research buddy. 980X DOES have EM64T. EM64T just means 64bit.

All i series cpus have it.
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Max, you need to do a little more research buddy. 980X DOES have EM64T. EM64T just means 64bit.

All i series cpus have it.
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This leads me to a question: At the moment I'm interested in some new hardware (new mainboard, CPU, memory). Currently it'd be a 1156- or 1366-Board (EVGA, USB3.0) and an Intel-CPU (such as Core i7-870).

Would it be a good idea to wait two or three months longer for these Sandybridge-CPUs? Which one could it be, to top the performance of the i7-870, regarding overclocking capabilities (watercooled)? The jungle is getting more and more impermeably.

thx for a pro-advice!

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This leads me to a question: At the moment I'm interested in some new hardware (new mainboard, CPU, memory). Currently it'd be a 1156- or 1366-Board (EVGA, USB3.0) and an Intel-CPU (such as Core i7-870).

Would it be a good idea to wait two or three months longer for these Sandybridge-CPUs? Which one could it be, to top the performance of the i7-870, regarding overclocking capabilities (watercooled)? The jungle is getting more and more impermeably.

thx for a pro-advice!

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I would say wait, it seams multiple samples of the LGA1155 i7 2600k has been shown to hit 5ghz on air, SS of one under 1v at 5ghz

Wait the 40 days until the release and then make up your mind.
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Now we play the waiting game!

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I would say wait, it seams multiple samples of the LGA1155 i7 2600k has been shown to hit 5ghz on air, SS of one under 1v at 5ghz

Wait the 40 days until the release and then make up your mind.

5GHz at under 1 volt is absolutely rediculous!

I sooo want to buy one of these babies the second they are out, well after TechPowerUP have given them the once over and 5GHz is real!

BUT as always with me i have to know i am spending my money in the best opposible way which means I have to wait to see how Bulldozer does as AMD are the kings of performance/value,

BUT by the time Bulldozer is out then Intel's high-end LGA-2011 will be just around the corner,

BUT just around the corner from that is 22nm Ivy Bridge!

Welcome to my world!!
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I would say wait, it seams multiple samples of the LGA1155 i7 2600k has been shown to hit 5ghz on air, SS of one under 1v at 5ghz

Wait the 40 days until the release and then make up your mind.
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