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Old Dec 3, 2010, 07:28 AM   #1576
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I like your mentality, but sadly the government doesn't. They talk about "people who cannot find jobs even if they try", hence the benefits. Bloody politicians.
Benefits are a good thing and help many people out, please don't be blinded by the media and politics who make it out as though everyone is playing the system, they do not it is a small minority of people, though of course the politicians can bring it up whenever they feel the need as it draws attention from other issues.

Some numbers, the DWP spends about 120 billion a year, 17 billion goes on JSA/income support and housing benefit, the rest is for pensions (67 billion) and other benefits which include disability etc, of the 17 billions that goes to work related benefits less than a billion of that is actually thought to be by wrongful claimants. So as much as we do pay for the people who abuse the system, that is not where the majority of our hard earned tax goes, again the media and politicians would have you believe so.

All of this is with a total spend of 650 billion.... food for thought perhaps.

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South West London here. And also another 'bloody foreigner' taking British jobs. I'm what the English call Antipodean, and have been here over five years (my grandfather was born near Manchester, so I could someday get a British Passport).
I think you should change your mentality, I have no problem with foreigners who come here and work hard for a living as do 99% of people, I DO have a problem with the foreigners who come here to work the system and don't work, claim benefits for a big family and take council houses, as I have the same problem with brits doing the same.
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Old Dec 3, 2010, 07:55 AM   #1577
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Old Dec 3, 2010, 07:56 AM   #1578
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So this is the u.k. club house
All you brits hang out
If you add where you are from in the UK to your details I will add you to the members list..... there will be benefits to being a member, occasionally I might do a small "giveaway" to get rid of kit lying around by putting all the members name into a hat and drawing a winner, might start after Xmas actually
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Old Dec 3, 2010, 08:09 AM   #1579
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Old Dec 3, 2010, 08:25 AM   #1580
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I need to be added please, i did request it on one of the pages a long while back but must have got missed
Added..... can you be a little more specific as to location in your details please as we are trying to pinpoint exactly where members are. Actually I might add a 2nd post with a UK Map on with markings for where each of us live..... when I have got a quiet period at work!
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Old Dec 3, 2010, 08:51 AM   #1582
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Indeed politics BOOO!

Let's talk about something much more British ... hmmm ... favourite beer or ale?
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Indeed politics BOOO!

Let's talk about something much more British ... hmmm ... favourite beer or ale?
Or even "How did we manage to get only 1 vote out of 21 (exluding brit vote) for our World Cup bid"
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Or even "How did we manage to get only 1 vote out of 21 (exluding brit vote) for our World Cup bid"
It was like watching the sporting equivalent of Eurovision.

Tactical and cynical block-voting that leaves the British contender languishing at the bottom despite having one of the technically better packages.
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So going back to my earlier comment, do you all think there is any value in posting an outline map in the OP showing locations of where we all are, perhaps by number (number as shown on members list) or a waste of time? Something like this but obviously a more pro job......
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So going back to my earlier comment, do you all think there is any value in posting an outline map in the OP showing locations of where we all are, perhaps by number (number as shown on members list) or a waste of time? Something like this but obviously a more pro job......
Maybe a link to a Google Maps map with people pinned on it? Might work.
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Or even "How did we manage to get only 1 vote out of 21 (exluding brit vote) for our World Cup bid"
They can stick it up their a** for all I care, FIFA is a corrupt organisation and I am glad the BBC stuck to their guns and aired panorama when they did, not that I think that changed the outcome, we didn't line the officials pockets thats why we didn't get it, it went to the highest bidder.
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Being a native New Zealander, rugby is my game anyway.
being an Englander we pretty fail at every sport -

-We suck at football. whens the last time England won the world cup

-We suck at Tennis - Tim henman totally failed to compete

-We suck at crickit - India/Pakistan always beats us

- F1 racing - what the fuck happend to lewis hamilton after he won in 2008?? he doesnt 'try' anymore

is there any sport we can play that we dont suck in? I know we are fairly good at rugby
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being an Englander we pretty fail at every sport -

-We suck at football. whens the last time England won the world cup

-We suck at Tennis - Tim henman totally failed to compete

-We suck at crickit - India/Pakistan always beats us

- F1 racing - what the fuck happend to lewis hamilton after he won in 2008?? he doesnt 'try' anymore

is there any sport we can play that we dont suck in? I know we are fairly good at rugby
Jessica Ennis does alright ...
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less than a billion of that is actually thought to be by wrongful claimants.

I think you should change your mentality, I have no problem with foreigners who come here and work hard for a living as do 99% of people, I DO have a problem with the foreigners who come here to work the system and don't work, claim benefits for a big family and take council houses, as I have the same problem with brits doing the same.
I have a problem with people coming to take my money from me too. £1 billion equates to about £17 a person, and that's no small sum. If you consider only the people working (and pay the majority of the tax), it increases to a not as palatable sum of £30 or more.
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being an englander we pretty fail at every sport -

-we suck at football. Whens the last time england won the world cup plenty of recognised good teams have never won it, this year was the 1st time for even spain! Netherlands have never won it either i beleive.

-we suck at tennis - tim henman totally failed to compete yup, you are right there!

-we suck at crickit - india/pakistan always beats us i think you will find we beat pakistan just a while ago? We are currently ranked 4 in the world for tests, 5 for odi, if we win the ashes series we will go upto 2nd in the test rankings, in neither of those ranking tables is pakistan above us!

- f1 racing - what the fuck happend to lewis hamilton after he won in 2008?? He doesnt 'try' anymore nonsense, the car has gone backwards (or insufficiently fowards) so it is less competative

is there any sport we can play that we dont suck in? I know we are fairly good at rugby cycling, sailing, rowing, shooting, judo, boxing (we currently have 11 world champions if my memory serves me correctly etc etc
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Seeing that there is only like 5 countries playing cricket seriously, 4th out of 5 seems pretty good to me. Same goes to rugby.
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Seeing that there is only like 5 countries playing cricket seriously, 4th out of 5 seems pretty good to me. Same goes to rugby.
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New Zealand
South Africa
West Indies
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England
Australia
New Zealand
South Africa
West Indies
Pakistan
India
Sri Lanka
Bangladesh
And given that NZ is currently at the bottom of that list in terms of ranking ... lets just move along from the subject of cricket.

Rugby though ...
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