AMD Introduces Phenom II X6 1100T BE, X2 565 BE, Athlon II X3 455

[btarunr]

AMD rolled out three new processors today, the six-core Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition, Athlon II X3 455, and the Phenom II X2 565 Black Edition. The new flagship of AMD's processor lineup, the Phenom II X6 1100T, is based on the AM3 socket, supporting DDR3 and DDR2 memory on older AM2+ motherboards. It carries a nominal clock speed of 3.30 GHz, is based on the 45 nm "Thuban" silicon, features 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 6 MB of L3 between all six cores. It features the TurboCore technology, which bumps clock speed by a few hundred MHz when it senses high load. As a Black Edition chip, it features an unlocked bus multiplier. Despite its increased clock speed, the 1100T has a TDP of 125W. This chip goes for US $265.

Next up, is the Phenom II X2 565 Black Edition. Clocked at 3.40 GHz, the X2 565 is based on the Callisto silicon (which is Deneb with two cores locked), featuring 512 KB of cache per core, and 6 MB shared L3 cache. This one has a TDP of 80W, and is priced at US $115. Lastly, there's the Athlon II X3 455, a triple-core chip based on the "Rana" silicon (which is Propus with one core locked), it lacks an L3 cache, but features 512 KB L2 per core. With a TDP of 95W, this one goes for $87.

[meirb111]

what is missing is a cheap x6 phenom the other athlon and phenom list is already full
no need for them.

[Imsochobo]

Originally Posted by meirb111

what is missing is a cheap x6 phenom the other athlon and phenom list is already full
no need for them.

usually low end models gets phased out by bigger brothers.
the new high end models fills the previous top spot model, bringing prices down.

works rather good, I love the X6's for vmware esxI whiteboxes!

[Hayder_Master]

about the athelon x3 455, they are many fallers trays when unlocked the 4th core not like the 450 which about more than 80% guaranty to unlocked the 4th core.

[meirb111]

Originally Posted by Imsochobo

usually low end models gets phased out by bigger brothers.
the new high end models fills the previous top spot model, bringing prices down.

works rather good, I love the X6's for vmware esxI whiteboxes!

my point is there is no low clock x6 the lowest is 1055t 2.8 in amds cpu list there is the
1035t but nobody is selling it

[bear jesus]

Originally Posted by meirb111

my point is there is no low clock x6 the lowest is 1055t 2.8 in amds cpu list there is the
1035t but nobody is selling it

I'm pretty sure the 1035T is OEM only.

[Zubasa]

Originally Posted by meirb111

my point is there is no low clock x6 the lowest is 1055t 2.8 in amds cpu list there is the
1035t but nobody is selling it

Whats the point of having a low clock X6 if they drop the price and the faster x6?
Unless you some how hate having a faster x6 for the same money.
Also it is usually better having a high clocked X4 than a low clock X6.

[HossHuge]

Ya gotta figure they have the manufacturing process pretty much perfected now cause they've been making them for 2 years which means this batch of chips will be very unlockable.

[KieranD]

Is there any point in releasing more x2s and x3s don't they saturate the market? Especially when Athlon x4s are so cheap.

The price between an x6 1055T and a 1090T BE is stupid if only there was another option for a BE, possibly then the new 1100T will drop the prices of the other x6s then.

[meirb111]

Originally Posted by Zubasa

Whats the point of having a low clock X6 if they drop the price and the faster x6?
Unless you some how hate having a faster x6 for the same money.
Also it is usually better having a high clocked X4 than a low clock X6.

if i use your logic then what is the point in low athlon and low clock phenoms
but i am not using that logic .if there is such a big variety (to much) in athlons and phenoms
people might expect bigger variety for x6 phenoms .

[DarthCyclonis]

Just wish they would come out with a new architecture that would complete with Intel instead of dropping a different Phenom and Athlon chip every couple of months. Sure..It's nice to have a 6 core chip but not if it gets spanked by an old intel socket 775 Q9550.

[meirb111]

here is an idea: phenom x5 ,if amd has x3 why not x5 so we would unlock the sixth core in
the bios and it will cost us less

[TheLaughingMan]

Originally Posted by DarthCyclonis

Just wish they would come out with a new architecture that would complete with Intel instead of dropping a different Phenom and Athlon chip every couple of months. Sure..It's nice to have a 6 core chip but not if it gets spanked by an old intel socket 775 Q9550.

Oh. Then lucky for your the Q9550 has been spanked by a variety of AMD Phenom II processors. And this one will also walk all over that particular chip as well, so you can turn that frown upside down. But you don't have to take my word, you can look for yourself:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...6_1090T/3.html

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

I really don't see the need for these processors, well at least the athlon kinda makes sense, where as the 2 new Phenom II's with slightly faster clocks make no sense at all, just seems like the x4 970 all over again.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

I really don't see the need for these processors, well at least the athlon kinda makes sense, where as the 2 new Phenom II's with slightly faster clocks make no sense at all, just seems like the x4 970 all over again.

Not everybody overclocks their processor, so for them this speed bump is quite welcome. Also, I think it comes with a higher multi for the Athlon II which will help for overclockers. Its more about slow improvements while they iron out Bulldozer, and they will need every single Mhz they have when Sandy Bridge comes in in January, and their answer is about half a year away.

[TheGuruStud]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Not everybody overclocks their processor, so for them this speed bump is quite welcome. Also, I think it comes with a higher multi for the Athlon II which will help for overclockers. Its more about slow improvements while they iron out Bulldozer, and they will need every single Mhz they have when Sandy Bridge comes in in January, and their answer is about half a year away.

SB is mostly just a tweak with what, 2-15% (15 being an app that likes HT) real world improvement? Intel just likes to blow smoke.

The real battle is with intel's money throwing machine.

[TheLaughingMan]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Not everybody overclocks their processor, so for them this speed bump is quite welcome. Also, I think it comes with a higher multi for the Athlon II which will help for overclockers. Its more about slow improvements while they iron out Bulldozer, and they will need every single Mhz they have when Sandy Bridge comes in in January, and their answer is about half a year away.

Several review sites got this processor up to 4.1 Ghz, and 4.5 Ghz when TurboCore kicks in.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by DarthCyclonis

Just wish they would come out with a new architecture that would complete with Intel instead of dropping a different Phenom and Athlon chip every couple of months. Sure..It's nice to have a 6 core chip but not if it gets spanked by an old intel socket 775 Q9550.

Actually, the old Yorkfields stand no chance. It's the i7 quads with hyperthreading that are a match for the x6's


But I agree these releases are far from exciting. 3.3Ghz does not impress me.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by TheGuruStud

SB is mostly just a tweak with what, 2-15% (15 being an app that likes HT) real world improvement? Intel just likes to blow smoke.

Interesting you already have preformance numbers before the rest of the world . .. .

[Zubasa]

Originally Posted by meirb111

if i use your logic then what is the point in low athlon and low clock phenoms
but i am not using that logic .if there is such a big variety (to much) in athlons and phenoms
people might expect bigger variety for x6 phenoms .

That is why they aren't releaseing any lower clock x6
The faster x4 out performs the slower x6 in many cases (especially gaming), that is why there is no point.
Same goes with the Phenom II 800 series, they are already discountinued after the Athlon X4s are released.

[WarEagleAU]

Would be cool if these cores unlocked.