Microcenter 64gig ssd?

Boneface · Dec 10, 2010, 02:00 PM

Would this be decent to buy http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0351760

thanks
Boneface

n-ster · Dec 10, 2010, 03:38 PM

yup, can anyone confirm this is 50 000 IOPS or is it 10 000 IOPS?

brandonwh64 · Dec 10, 2010, 03:40 PM

wow nice price! imagine two of those in raid 0! sweet speed!

suraswami · Dec 10, 2010, 03:41 PM

I believe its manufactured by A-Data for MicroCenter.

n-ster · Dec 10, 2010, 03:48 PM

Aoparently the IOPS suck, ~5000 IOPS tested, perhaps it is a 10 000 IOPS drive at best. in which case, A-DATA S599 AS599S-64GM-C 2.5" 64GB SATA II Intern... is much better

OR http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820211485 if you order from Canada

Arctucas · Dec 10, 2010, 04:22 PM

@n-ster,

What benchmark, please?

n-ster · Dec 10, 2010, 05:13 PM

I can't find the benchmark for this drive lol... it is just what someone at a forum said when I searched Intel 29F32G08AAMDBX16

It wouldn't surprise that it is the equivalent to the Agility 2, while that A-DATA I suggest is equivalent to the Vertex 2. If he is buying in the US, and doesn't pay tax from newegg, spending at most 5~10$ more for the safety of knowing the max IOPS is 50 000 isn't so bad.

There doesn't seem to be any public benchmarks for this drive, which is weird, sorry if I seemed confident this was a 10K IOPS drive, I meant that this is the ONLY info I could get, and it isn't reliable, but if no other info can be found, better pay the tiny price premium for the A-DATA

Upon further reading, it seems it was a one-time deal they did with A-DATA, and this could be a different drive that the S599, so I'm not so sure about the IOPS >.>

Arctucas · Dec 10, 2010, 05:29 PM

I did the AS SSD IOPS and Copy Benchmark for my RAID 0 array using 4 of these drives:

Can you determine anything from that?

EDIT: Here is the MB/s benchmark for the array:

mrw1986 · Dec 10, 2010, 06:10 PM

I have no real world experience with RAID SSDs, but I do have experience with SSDs. Everything I have read online suggests that running them in RAID actually causes performance degradation. I mean any instance of RAID (0,1,5,10, etc). Can anyone confirm this?

n-ster · Dec 10, 2010, 06:21 PM

just means you lose TRIM, very normal. Garbage collection does the job for SF controllers.

With the AS SSD that arctucas provided us, it seems like a 30K IOPS to me, maybe 50K, idk really. I'd have to do a fulll reinstall of windows and test my SSDs

Boneface · Dec 11, 2010, 11:17 PM

So would it be good to get 2 of these at least? Not looking like buddy is going to buy cards so...?

n-ster · Dec 12, 2010, 04:04 AM

YES 2 of these in RAID 0 would be awesome, keep in mind you do lose TRIM, though it isn't that big of a deal for Sandforce drives

Boneface · Dec 12, 2010, 02:13 PM

Well i think im only going to get one ssd for now and think im going to go with this one http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0344221 better then the MC one?

Boneface · Dec 16, 2010, 08:07 PM

Ok i have my new ssd, its hooked up and showing 55.80gb and 100mb system reserved, is the 100mb needed or do i get rid of it?

Thatguy · Dec 17, 2010, 12:37 AM

is there anyway to put this in a laptop with a pata drive in it currently ? my toughbook needs a new drive.

n-ster · Dec 17, 2010, 03:17 AM

you need the 100MB, and I would have taken the MC SSD instead of the agility 2.....

A Cheese Danish · Dec 17, 2010, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy

is there anyway to put this in a laptop with a pata drive in it currently ? my toughbook needs a new drive.

I wouldn't recommend it even if it was possible. The SSD's are for the SATA II interface.
And PATA, well, is PATA

You wouldn't get the full performance, so ideally you would be wasting money.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thatguy · Dec 17, 2010, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Cheese Danish

I wouldn't recommend it even if it was possible. The SSD's are for the SATA II interface.
And PATA, well, is PATA

You wouldn't get the full performance, so ideally you would be wasting money.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't care about the performance. I just want the drive not to puke when we put the laptop in the race car. I keep having platter crashs from the vibrations. Its getting exspensive tracking down pata drives.If there is a PATA SSD out there, let me know. It doesn't need to be big either 20-30gb would be plenty.

A Cheese Danish · Dec 17, 2010, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy

I don't care about the performance. I just want the drive not to puke when we put the laptop in the race car. I keep having platter crashs from the vibrations. Its getting exspensive tracking down pata drives.If there is a PATA SSD out there, let me know. It doesn't need to be big either 20-30gb would be plenty.

Well they do exist, but are somewhat more expensive.
KingSpec is another brand I just saw. It would definitely be ideal in this case (now that I know what hell you put your
tough book through

).

*I didn't mean to hijack this thread*

Thatguy · Dec 17, 2010, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Cheese Danish

Well they do exist, but are somewhat more expensive.
KingSpec is another brand I just saw. It would definitely be ideal in this case (now that I know what hell you put your
tough book through

).

*I didn't mean to hijack this thread*

Thanx, yeah it gets used in all sorts of really harsh enviroments. Thanx for the link, ordering one right now.

I'll give you a pass on the threadjack to BTW.

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n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,304 (5.21/day) Thanks: 1,206 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	just means you lose TRIM, very normal. Garbage collection does the job for SF controllers. With the AS SSD that arctucas provided us, it seems like a 30K IOPS to me, maybe 50K, idk really. I'd have to do a fulll reinstall of windows and test my SSDs __________________ My Heatware

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Boneface Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,335 (0.50/day) Thanks: 75 Thanked 78 Times in 44 Posts System Specs	Well i think im only going to get one ssd for now and think im going to go with this one http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0344221 better then the MC one?

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