What would be holding me back?!

SlipSlice · Dec 14, 2006, 11:19 PM

Ok so here is how it goes down... a few weeks ago I order a Rosewill 550 Watt PSU, and the XFX Geforce 6800Xt, I go to put the PSU, and didn't stay grounded getting cocky, and i fried my motherboard.. I got another one now, the ASRock K7VM3. I put the card and PSU in, and and play, and I lag so bad it is ridiculous.. I shouldn't lag with fear on medium with 800x600 resolution with this card should I? Actually some things are even on minimun and low.. I have read reviews with people have an Athlon XP 2500+ and run bf2 on high with this card so what is the deal..

If anybody has any thoughts on what may be holding me back, please feel free to post your suggestions, this is really really frustrating.

P.S. I have tried drivers like 3-4 times now and nothing has really helped.

ktr · Dec 14, 2006, 11:31 PM

your board is 4x agp...

solution, buy another baord.

i_am_mustang_man · Dec 14, 2006, 11:32 PM

not necessarily (i'm adding, but wanted to post this first, and then edit

)

http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_plug...hp?content.142

it might make it slower, but laggy, no

something janky is going on

have you defragged lately? is your ram in dual channel? if you can get a hold of more ram, see if that helps (ram helps alot with fear, oblivion, and bf2/2142 to name a few), and if it does, then get more ram

but it shouldn't be laggy like that

SlipSlice · Dec 14, 2006, 11:46 PM

I don't see why my ram would make a difference, at least it hasn't never before. I have a gig, isn't that enough for the time being? Defragged no, because I had this computer rebuilt meaning new motherboard new OS system because i had the "emachines motherboard" in it not to long ago, and well the Angel Soft recovery wouldn't work no more when I got this motherboard, so the guys at computer plus intalled the new OS for me..

Other than that I don't think I have did nothing else that would make this thing lag as much as it does..

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is your ram in dual channel?

I don't believe so..

ktr · Dec 14, 2006, 11:52 PM

only the nforce2 sktA supports dual channel...

ATIonion · Dec 14, 2006, 11:58 PM

make sure that your bios has that card as 4x agp and not 2xagp...

but this sounds kinda like ram to me....idk...try taking out one stick of ram and rebooting...test it with a benchmark or game...if nothing changes swap the RAM with the one left over...reboot and test....if nothing changes then you know its not your RAM...

i_am_mustang_man · Dec 15, 2006, 12:03 AM

actually, you prolly can't run dual channel, so nm

the easiest test would be to borrow ram from a friend/family/coworker and try it then.

actually, run 3dmark05, and tell us what you get. run it at stock (1024x768, no aa, no af) and you should get some comparable results to see if it's your gpu at least

SlipSlice · Dec 15, 2006, 12:19 AM

Ok I have to download it again, I should have to result posted sometime tonight, so please be on, later

SlipSlice · Dec 15, 2006, 01:05 AM

Ok here are the results.. pitiful if you ask me...and also look at the information, something about wrong drivers or not the ones that they suggest..dunno

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...=0&UID=7183080

what do you think?

SlipSlice · Dec 15, 2006, 10:31 PM

Anybody have any comments?

cdawall · Dec 15, 2006, 10:35 PM

you shouldnt have any issues running on the 4x agp i know it isnt a very big diff cause the ti4200 i have is 4x and the 8x that is benchmarked online is very close performance wise that card wont fill the 4x bandwidth anyway so maybe your mobo downclocked the cpu? my old ECS did that when i hit performance settings

Tatty_One · Dec 15, 2006, 10:39 PM

You sure you got ALL the drivers on? chipset/agp/sound/etc etc

xman2007 · Dec 15, 2006, 10:39 PM

just check you dont have shadows/soft shadows enabled/ too high that eats a lot of resources in a lot of modern ga,es

SlipSlice · Dec 15, 2006, 11:02 PM

I don't know how to update my chipset, because I got a new motherboard, ASRock K7VM3. could somebody help me find the most recent updates for my chipset?

Other than that I know my sound card drivers are installed and working, and graphics i have tried 5-6 times with no performance change, so it is probably not that, it might just be my chipset.

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just check you dont have shadows/soft shadows enabled/ too high that eats a lot of resources in a lot of modern ga,es

nothing is on high, lol, hell i get like 20 fps on medium/minimun

Tatty_One · Dec 16, 2006, 09:17 AM

Just go to your motherboard manufacturers website, under products find your board, click on support, click on drivers and it will give you a list of the most up to date, download the chipset/AGP/LAN etc and install, reboot and your away, I am guessing but I think that not all the necessary drivers are installed, either way you have nothing to lose, its always wise to update chipset drivers once in a while in any case.

Here you go, I dont just do this for anyone ya know!

http://www.asrock.com/support/download.asp?Model=K7VM3

SlipSlice · Dec 16, 2006, 09:07 PM

the Lan drivers only? is that it?

Tatty_One · Dec 16, 2006, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipSlice

the Lan drivers only? is that it?

No, download the chipset and AGP which are contained in the "Via 4 in 1" and download the AMR.

SlipSlice · Dec 18, 2006, 12:09 AM

does it which way i install them preferably or not?

Dec 18, 2006, 12:14 AM

It's probably that slow ass RAM. FEAR loves the stuff, it makes a real performance difference. 2GB of pc3200 is smooth on anything 6600gt and above...

SlipSlice · Dec 18, 2006, 10:52 PM

i don't believe that it is the ram because, not only is fear not running right now game is running right. It has to be the card. look at my 3dmark 05 score

it should be doubled that.

LiNKiN · Dec 18, 2006, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipSlice

i don't believe that it is the ram because, not only is fear not running right now game is running right. It has to be the card. look at my 3dmark 05 score

it should be doubled that.

I dont think so....if it were doubled you would be up to x850 performance which Im sorry but your 8 pipe card isnt gonna score that high. Im not exactly sure which model of card you have but I do know that the 6800xt also comes in 128-bit memory interface. I would say if your card is underperforming, its probably not by much.

SlipSlice · Dec 19, 2006, 12:37 AM

actually this one is 256 bit, Gddr3, 256 mb. they put a new one on newegg after i bought this one..the one i bought isn't on there anymore..they sold out..nice try though..

KennyT772 · Dec 19, 2006, 01:49 AM

sounds about right to me really. via chipsets suck balls when it comes to gaming, always have. doesnt help you have a 1.6ghz cpu (if im not mistaken). the 6800xt is nothing more then a 6600gt with a 256bit bus. not that fast and the memory interface doesnt add a whole lot of speed.

Ketxxx · Dec 19, 2006, 02:08 AM

laggy graphics eh? sounds like gpu throttling.

SlipSlice · Dec 19, 2006, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyT772

sounds about right to me really. via chipsets suck balls when it comes to gaming, always have. doesnt help you have a 1.6ghz cpu (if im not mistaken). the 6800xt is nothing more then a 6600gt with a 256bit bus. not that fast and the memory interface doesnt add a whole lot of speed.

How come that my cpu reads 1.25 ghz on my system specs then.. It has done this before. I reset the jumper on the motherboard once before and it read AMD athlon 2800+ again..wth.

So what do you think I should do, my ATI Radeon 9550 outperforms this card almost. should I send this one back before my 30 days is up, and just save the money for another system and new card?

Dec 14, 2006, 11:19 PM	#1
SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	What would be holding me back?! Ok so here is how it goes down... a few weeks ago I order a Rosewill 550 Watt PSU, and the XFX Geforce 6800Xt, I go to put the PSU, and didn't stay grounded getting cocky, and i fried my motherboard.. I got another one now, the ASRock K7VM3. I put the card and PSU in, and and play, and I lag so bad it is ridiculous.. I shouldn't lag with fear on medium with 800x600 resolution with this card should I? Actually some things are even on minimun and low.. I have read reviews with people have an Athlon XP 2500+ and run bf2 on high with this card so what is the deal.. If anybody has any thoughts on what may be holding me back, please feel free to post your suggestions, this is really really frustrating. P.S. I have tried drivers like 3-4 times now and nothing has really helped. __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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i_am_mustang_man Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 1,349 (0.51/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts System Specs	not necessarily (i'm adding, but wanted to post this first, and then edit ) http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_plug...hp?content.142 it might make it slower, but laggy, no something janky is going on have you defragged lately? is your ram in dual channel? if you can get a hold of more ram, see if that helps (ram helps alot with fear, oblivion, and bf2/2142 to name a few), and if it does, then get more ram but it shouldn't be laggy like that

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ATIonion Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 490 (0.20/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	make sure that your bios has that card as 4x agp and not 2xagp... but this sounds kinda like ram to me....idk...try taking out one stick of ram and rebooting...test it with a benchmark or game...if nothing changes swap the RAM with the one left over...reboot and test....if nothing changes then you know its not your RAM...

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i_am_mustang_man Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 1,349 (0.51/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts System Specs	actually, you prolly can't run dual channel, so nm the easiest test would be to borrow ram from a friend/family/coworker and try it then. actually, run 3dmark05, and tell us what you get. run it at stock (1024x768, no aa, no af) and you should get some comparable results to see if it's your gpu at least

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Ok I have to download it again, I should have to result posted sometime tonight, so please be on, later __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Ok here are the results.. pitiful if you ask me...and also look at the information, something about wrong drivers or not the ones that they suggest..dunno http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...=0&UID=7183080 what do you think? __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Anybody have any comments? __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	the Lan drivers only? is that it? __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	does it which way i install them preferably or not? __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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v-zero Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	It's probably that slow ass RAM. FEAR loves the stuff, it makes a real performance difference. 2GB of pc3200 is smooth on anything 6600gt and above...

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	i don't believe that it is the ram because, not only is fear not running right now game is running right. It has to be the card. look at my 3dmark 05 score it should be doubled that. __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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SlipSlice Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 738 (0.29/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	actually this one is 256 bit, Gddr3, 256 mb. they put a new one on newegg after i bought this one..the one i bought isn't on there anymore..they sold out..nice try though.. __________________ 3DMARK05:8024 @ STOCK EVERYTHING 3DMARK03:16800 @ STOCK EVERYTHING I LOVE MY BABY!

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