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Old Dec 27, 2010, 06:53 AM   #12101
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Old Dec 27, 2010, 09:45 PM   #12102
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I was thinking....as folders, we're always on the lookout for good deals on hardware we will use solely for folding. In these cases, the most important thing that matters to us is the PPD (there's also electricity, heat etc., but lets ignore that for now).

So, quite like HDDs have a Price/gb, what if we were to have a Price/1k PPD? What would you say is the sweet spot?

My ASUS 470 (can be purchased new for 200 bucks), gives 15k PPD OC'ed. So, thats $13.3 per 1k PPD.
I am looking at a GTX 260 (216), being sold for 80 bucks. It should give about 8k - 10k PPD. On the conservative side, thats $10 per 1k PPD. Would this be a good deal, using my price/1k PPD measure?
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I think you overestimated the PPD for a 260 c216.
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I went by the GPU PPD database.
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I was thinking....as folders, we're always on the lookout for good deals on hardware we will use solely for folding. In these cases, the most important thing that matters to us is the PPD (there's also electricity, heat etc., but lets ignore that for now).

So, quite like HDDs have a Price/gb, what if we were to have a Price/1k PPD? What would you say is the sweet spot?

My ASUS 470 (can be purchased new for 200 bucks), gives 15k PPD OC'ed. So, thats $13.3 per 1k PPD.
I am looking at a GTX 260 (216), being sold for 80 bucks. It should give about 8k - 10k PPD. On the conservative side, thats $10 per 1k PPD. Would this be a good deal, using my price/1k PPD measure?
We always use PPD/$ when we buy new gear and right now it is the 460, 768 GB version.
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They should put an * and say results not typical. I don't think 1600+ shader clocks are possible on lots of cards, let alone air cooled ones
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I was thinking....as folders, we're always on the lookout for good deals on hardware we will use solely for folding. In these cases, the most important thing that matters to us is the PPD (there's also electricity, heat etc., but lets ignore that for now).

So, quite like HDDs have a Price/gb, what if we were to have a Price/1k PPD? What would you say is the sweet spot?

My ASUS 470 (can be purchased new for 200 bucks), gives 15k PPD OC'ed. So, thats $13.3 per 1k PPD.
I am looking at a GTX 260 (216), being sold for 80 bucks. It should give about 8k - 10k PPD. On the conservative side, thats $10 per 1k PPD. Would this be a good deal, using my price/1k PPD measure?
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It's not a "bad" deal by no means. (A bad deal would be folding with a 8800GTS 320mb. They put out more heat than PPD). The GTX260 will produce 8700 ppd @ max o/c and is a 65/55nm version, thus it will consume more watts per ppd than the GTX4XX series. The best bang for the buck is the GTX460 768mb for it's balance of PPD production and wattage consumed. Your either going to pay $$$ for the hardware or $$$ for the electricity. The choice is yours.

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I do not know anyone that can get their shaders stable @ 1600+ for a GTX260 216sp and fold on it stably. It would take volt modding and water cooling, which is not practical for 24/7 F@H use.
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So, whats the price/ppd for a 460? I believe the 470 would be a sweeter deal since it can be OC'ed on air to give 15k PPD, and can be had new for 200$ + a mafia 2 coupon (which can be sold for about 30-40ish).

Added a great deal for folders in the Folding deals thread. Have a look. Deal runs out in 2 days.
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So, whats the price/ppd for a 460? I believe the 470 would be a sweeter deal since it can be OC'ed on air to give 15k PPD, and can be had new for 200$ + a mafia 2 coupon (which can be sold for about 30-40ish)
Remember that GF104 is an improvement over GF100. They run cooler and consume less watts. Most of us are picking them up for $120-130.00 and getting 11k ppd each out of them. I can run 4 of them with a Corsair/Antec 750 PSU and use 6-pin splitters to power them. Rig nets around 45K ppd and eats about 570 watts. That's approx 80ppd/watt.
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So, whats the price/ppd for a 460? I believe the 470 would be a sweeter deal since it can be OC'ed on air to give 15k PPD, and can be had new for 200$ + a mafia 2 coupon (which can be sold for about 30-40ish).

Added a great deal for folders in the Folding deals thread. Have a look. Deal runs out in 2 days.
That's a good question. Especially considering the big WU's for GPU3. Which WU's do you use, the 9xx with their GTX470 performance level or the 6800's at </= 10K? The 470 will use much more electricity, so that cost and heat becomes a factor, how much of one depends on your situation. I am really looking forward to seeing how the GTX560 does on the big WU's.

There was a guy here on CL who was selling 2 GTX260/216/55nm for $50 EACH.

As for the 1600MHz shaders, was that mstenholm in his workshop in the winter?

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Most of us are picking them up for $120-130.00 and getting 11k ppd each out of them. I can run 4 of them with a Corsair/Antec 750 PSU and use 6-pin splitters to power them. Rig nets around 45K ppd and eats about 570 watts. That's approx 80ppd/watt.
buck, you have to multiply the watts by 24. Therefore, your points/watt is 3.29. Speaking of mstenholm, his hex gets about 9 IIRC!
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Meh, 2nd rig restarted shortly after I went to work, it's back up now. That screwed up my 25k day.
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So, whats the price/ppd for a 460? I believe the 470 would be a sweeter deal since it can be OC'ed on air to give 15k PPD, and can be had new for 200$ + a mafia 2 coupon (which can be sold for about 30-40ish).

Added a great deal for folders in the Folding deals thread. Have a look. Deal runs out in 2 days.
I was able to get the 460 for $104 dollars after rebate, (overclocked version) and at the stock clocks it does just shy of 10 k PPD for 100'ish dollars and almost half the wattage, IMO the 460 is better than the 470 for price to PPD (even though I <3 the 470 IMO the best card Nvidia has made in years I won 4).

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Some of the hardware is not mine it belongs to a friend, whom is and has been part of TEAM EVGA for a long time, he simply can't afford the electricity to run it 24/7 and he hosts an FTP, at my house as my internet is much better.
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I guess it really does depend on the deals you can get, I got my GTS 450 for $59.99 and its doing 8k and uses 106w max (although I doubt it will ever draw even that much).
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I guess it really does depend on the deals you can get, I got my GTS 450 for $59.99 and its doing 8k and uses 106w max (although I doubt it will ever draw even that much).
I picked up a GTS 430 yesterday for 39, after rebate, and OC'd it supposedly is capable of 7-8k PPD.
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Id like to get my hands on one to try out for a little while. Let us know how that works out for you, please
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Yeah will post results as soon as it shows up and I get the new PC together (building another Downlaod box / folding machine! (that makes 4 I'm almost at the 100 terabyte mark now ))
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Where?
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From New Egg, I should say after rebate and actual cost to me, I spent a 15 dollar gift card I had on it.

ASUS GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

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Forum tag FTW!

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Dam you! I wan't to play black ops so bad! Think i should install it on the sig rig and try playing all low and some zombies?! Yep im goin for it! Stupid 40gig IDE is full though. SC2 took up a ton of space. I got me some taco johns sittin right here too! So off to play some black ops and eat some taco johns!

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