please suggest me a nvidia GPU - Page 2

subhendu · Jan 13, 2011, 06:26 PM

I bought this psu and whole setup just 2 weeks back ... I will run games like motogp 08,sbk x ,crysis,battlefield ..

LGV · Jan 13, 2011, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

That is true. So my suggestion is a GTS450, and don't run furmark.

500w...are they insane? My main rig with a GTX470 barely breaks 550w pulled from the wall with the CPU maxed out and furmark running...

A 500w recommendation for the GTS450 is extremely laughable.

And the Antec calculator is always way high, because they want you to buy more expensive power supplies then you really need.

I wont agree with them, but i think they play on the safe side as me...

I do not want the OP come beck week later throwing stone at as... lol

I agree with you do, but deff aganst to higher then 9800/240/430!

LGV · Jan 13, 2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by subhendu

crysis

on MB video chip? I see dead pixels now, dont take it bad please tho .

subhendu · Jan 13, 2011, 06:30 PM

sounds like gt 430 is the best choice

cdawall · Jan 13, 2011, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGV

I wont agree with them, but i think they play on the safe side as me...

I do not want the OP come beck week later throwing stone at as... lol

I agree with you do, but deff aganst to higher then 9800/240/430!

go run that calculator on this

phenom 1090T@4.5ghz 1.55v
2x2GB DDR3
SSD+HDD+ODD
2x4850X2 2GB (highest single slot power consumption cards out ever period end of story)
16 Yateloon 120mm high speed fans
2 watercooling pumps (laing D4+D5 vario)

last time i tried one it said 1200w ran that setup for a bit on a Thermaltake TR2 850w it never skipped a beat or got warm so yea...

LGV · Jan 13, 2011, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

go run that calculator on this

phenom 1090T@4.5ghz 1.55v
2x2GB DDR3
SSD+HDD+ODD
2x4850X2 2GB (highest single slot power consumption cards out ever period end of story)
16 Yateloon 120mm high speed fans
2 watercooling pumps (laing D4+D5 vario)

last time i tried one it said 1200w ran that setup for a bit on a Thermaltake TR2 850w it never skipped a beat or got warm so yea...

I told you; i agree with you, I know abaut PSU calculators, all same as you sed.
but this case my oponion stay on safe, thets all.

cdawall · Jan 13, 2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGV

I told you; i agree with you, I know abaut PSU calculators, all same as you sed.
but this case my oponion stay on safe, thets all.

thing is they aren't ever correct...and safe or not it wont ever make up for someone buying a PSU like this 1050w?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=187

LGV · Jan 13, 2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

thing is they aren't ever correct...and safe or not it wont ever make up for someone buying a PSU like this 1050w?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=187

megalol. ofc not! but i considering he just payd for hes PSU he steted he wont change it....

and what if he want to run it for 4-5 year? or want new cpu next year? or just add hdd

i still stand for 9800 eco/ 240/ 430

on buget; firs two

newtekie1 · Jan 13, 2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGV

I wont agree with them, but i think they play on the safe side as me...

I do not want the OP come beck week later throwing stone at as... lol

I agree with you do, but deff aganst to higher then 9800/240/430!

The GTS450 only consumes 6w more than the 9800GT, you think 6w will make or break the PSU...

Quote:

Originally Posted by subhendu

sounds like gt 430 is the best choice

I wouldn't even waste my time or money on a GT430 if you plan to play games. Yes, it consumes less power, but it also performs like completely garbage. You're looking at sub-10FPS in crysis at anything above 1024x768, and even at 1024x768 you'll be getting under 25FPS.

LGV · Jan 13, 2011, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

The GTS450 only consumes 6w more than the 9800GT, you think 6w will make or break the PSU...

lots of pp write here abaut the eco 9800, me too, last i edited my post too ( forget to put eco), anyway he have to chose now, lots of opcio for hem geven, and reason to, I wont post here anymore, i consider this thread had all the info he need now.

thanks newtekie1 and cdawall bye

assaulter_99 · Jan 13, 2011, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

The GTS450 only consumes 6w more than the 9800GT, you think 6w will make or break the PSU...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGV

i still stand for 9800 eco/ 240/ 430

To be fair to him, he corrected himself afterwards since the 9800gt Green Edition sucks 75w compared to the 9800gt which is more or less ~125w!

newtekie1 · Jan 13, 2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGV

lots of pp write here abaut the eco 9800, me too, last i edited my post too ( forget to put eco), anyway he have to chose now, lots of opcio for hem geven, and reason to, I wont post here anymore, i consider this thread had all the info he need now.

thanks newtekie1 and cdawall bye

Quote:

Originally Posted by assaulter_99

To be fair to him, he corrected himself afterwards since the 9800gt Green Edition sucks 75w compared to the 9800gt which is more or less ~125w!

The 9800eco cards still pull 80w+. Don't be fooled by the lack of a PCI-E power connector, they over-draw power from the PCI-E slot to make up for the lack of a PCI-E power connector.

LGV · Jan 13, 2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

The 9800eco cards still pull 80w+. Don't be fooled by the lack of a PCI-E power connector, they over-draw power from the PCI-E slot to make up for the lack of a PCI-E power connector.

OK! YOU WIN!

240 or 430, but i still stand by it!

cdawall · Jan 13, 2011, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

The 9800eco cards still pull 80w+. Don't be fooled by the lack of a PCI-E power connector, they over-draw power from the PCI-E slot to make up for the lack of a PCI-E power connector.

hence the MSI K9A2 plats smoking with a full batch of ecos and folding

oh and i just want to say i run a lot more power hungry rig with a FSP300w lol

Intel Core i3 560ES@4.2ghz 1.3v
2x2GB GSkill 2000CL9@1600 6-9-6-22 1.62v
Gigabyte H55N-USB3 mini ITX
Zotac 9800GT ECO@9800GT clocks
2x1TB Samsung F3 and 1x1.5TB Seagate 7200.11 in rocketfish eSATA enclosures
Corsair H70 with a single 120mm fan
Silverstone SG05-B and FSP 300w 80+ PSU

subhendu · Jan 14, 2011, 04:52 AM

gts 450 is asking Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply... (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 22 Amps.)

n-ster · Jan 14, 2011, 05:01 AM

I'd get a used GT240 they go as low as 45~50$

sliderider · Jan 14, 2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claylomax

A stock GTS 450 should be fine; it uses a 6 pin connector which your PSU has and will give you a big boost in games.

350W PSU. nVidia recommends 400W.

sliderider · Jan 14, 2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

You think he'll be running furmark a lot? I don't. So the power consumption is more like 104w, and more like 94w for a stock card.

Going by the "maximum" power numbers don't make much sense for normal usage scenarios.

It does make sense because once in a while he may run something that actually does push it up to the maximum and then he'll run into a problem. If the PSU overloads it can take out a lot of sensitive parts before it shuts down. You should ALWAYS take the maximum power draw of all parts into consideration when choosing a PSU not the minimum. All the parts collectively might have a minimum power draw of exactly 350W, but as soon as any one part starts to demand more the PSU can no longer deliver because you didn't leave any headroom to allow for peaks in demand. Power demand can fluctuate considerably even under what we perceive as light use. The parts inside the computer may actually be working harder than you think. You also leave no room for the slow failure of parts that always takes place inside every PSU lowering it's efficiency over time. A 350W PSU that is several years old may not be delivering 350W anymore.

newtekie1 · Jan 14, 2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subhendu

gts 450 is asking Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply... (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 22 Amps.)

Actually it recommends a 400w, it is saying the minimum is ~300w. Your PSU meets the minimum as you have 23A on the 12v rail.

And the recommendations are always high to cover people that run insane systems so the PSU doesn't blow up. Your system will be fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliderider

350W PSU. nVidia recommends 400W.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliderider

It does make sense because once in a while he may run something that actually does push it up to the maximum and then he'll run into a problem. If the PSU overloads it can take out a lot of sensitive parts before it shuts down. You should ALWAYS take the maximum power draw of all parts into consideration when choosing a PSU not the minimum. All the parts collectively might have a minimum power draw of exactly 350W, but as soon as any one part starts to demand more the PSU can no longer deliver because you didn't leave any headroom to allow for peaks in demand. Power demand can fluctuate considerably even under what we perceive as light use. The parts inside the computer may actually be working harder than you think. You also leave no room for the slow failure of parts that always takes place inside every PSU lowering it's efficiency over time. A 350W PSU that is several years old may not be delivering 350W anymore.

Even pushing it to the max his PSU will handle it. But again, just don't run furmark and he will definitely be fine. I have yet to see anything that pushes a card as much as furmark, it just doesn't happen. So going by the absolute maximum in a normal situation doesn't make any sense. Just because I'm not looking at the absolute maximum doesn't mean I'm taking the minimum either. I'm taking the maximum use under normal usage condition.

His PSU will handle a GTS450 without problem. In fact it will handle it and leave 150w+ left for the rest of the system, which the rest of the system will never consume.

subhendu · Jan 14, 2011, 06:20 PM

I will never run furmark ...never tried before..one guy is selling used card...is this ok for my 350w setup ?
EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB 320-bit...

newtekie1 · Jan 14, 2011, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subhendu

I will never run furmark ...never tried before..one guy is selling used card...is this ok for my 350w setup ?
EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB 320-bit...

The GTS450 is a much better card, and uses the same(or maybe even less) power as the 8800GTS.

DarkOCean · Jan 14, 2011, 06:53 PM

Hey how about this 4830 its only 60 bucks PowerColor AX4830 512MD3 Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-...
Or this gt 240 EVGA 512-P3-1240-LR GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit D...
Regarding the psu if you don't overclock anything everything will be fine.

Widjaja · Jan 14, 2011, 09:19 PM

For whatever reason the OP wants a card which plays games the way it's meant to be played

Or maybe he has knowledgeable buddies who recommended he only use nVidia who knows.

His choice.

Bo$$ · Jan 14, 2011, 09:37 PM

FSP SAGA II 350W has 2 16a rails, should be able to run that 8800gts fine mate

brandonwh64 · Jan 14, 2011, 09:38 PM

It should be able to run a GTS 450 fine as well.

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Jan 13, 2011, 06:26 PM	#26
subhendu Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 486 (0.31/day) Thanks: 294 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	I bought this psu and whole setup just 2 weeks back ... I will run games like motogp 08,sbk x ,crysis,battlefield ..

Jan 13, 2011, 06:30 PM	#29
subhendu Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 486 (0.31/day) Thanks: 294 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	sounds like gt 430 is the best choice

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Jan 14, 2011, 04:52 AM	#40
subhendu Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 486 (0.31/day) Thanks: 294 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	gts 450 is asking Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply... (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 22 Amps.)

Jan 14, 2011, 05:01 AM	#41
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,304 (5.22/day) Thanks: 1,205 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	I'd get a used GT240 they go as low as 45~50$ __________________ My Heatware

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Jan 14, 2011, 06:20 PM	#45
subhendu Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 486 (0.31/day) Thanks: 294 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	I will never run furmark ...never tried before..one guy is selling used card...is this ok for my 350w setup ? EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB 320-bit...

Jan 14, 2011, 06:53 PM	#47
DarkOCean Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: on top of that big mountain on mars(e Eu) Posts: 1,418 (0.90/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 272 Times in 234 Posts System Specs	Hey how about this 4830 its only 60 bucks PowerColor AX4830 512MD3 Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-... Or this gt 240 EVGA 512-P3-1240-LR GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit D... Regarding the psu if you don't overclock anything everything will be fine.

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Jan 14, 2011, 09:19 PM	#48
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,019 (1.85/day) Thanks: 240 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	For whatever reason the OP wants a card which plays games the way it's meant to be played Or maybe he has knowledgeable buddies who recommended he only use nVidia who knows. His choice.

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Jan 14, 2011, 09:37 PM	#49
Bo$$ Join Date: May 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,670 (2.49/day) Thanks: 444 Thanked 770 Times in 679 Posts System Specs	FSP SAGA II 350W has 2 16a rails, should be able to run that 8800gts fine mate __________________ Live in the UK? Join the UK TPU Group! Caution! This is Sparta! Im Looking For... Im Selling

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Jan 14, 2011, 09:38 PM	#50
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