Naturally Aspired PC WaterCooling Club - Page 53

Velvet Wafer · Jan 16, 2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by (FIH) The Don

will get better shots later
http://img.techpowerup.org/110116/IMAG0011.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/110116/IMAG0008.jpg

also.... the water is getting purple'ish, should i change it ? it was just distilled water, and i use those black uv tubes, is that what is coloring my water?

Oh Don,im looking forward to you reworking the loop for more efficiency!

If the color of the water is more blue than purple, its probably copper from the rads.
Can also be, that your tubing colors the water, but i dont believe that, most tubing is medical grade, and will not react with the coolant, besides some residue may begin to accumulate on the tubing,dependant on the quality, coolant, and material of the tubing.
What i know is, that most new stuff will not be totally clean of production residues, and can visually alter the coolant. if you drain the coolant again, and refill the whole loop, it shouldnt return anymore... you could have cicumvented that, by flushing all parts before using them, with hot water... but i admit i also dont do that, its not very problematic, as most of the stuff the parts drop in the water, are smear fluids and oils, that the pumps drop, when beeing new... so it wont hurt anything in the loop

cdawall · Jan 16, 2011, 11:07 PM

so i am reworking my loop and am going to throw some antifreeze in it wilee was telling me dexcool is not as good as the old school green i am only running it at a 15% mix will it be that bad?

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 01:12 AM

double post but meh its club forums

hows that look

Cold Storm · Jan 17, 2011, 02:34 AM

Nice, tight and clean. Looks good.

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Nice, tight and clean. Looks good.

that was 90% of the reason behind the rework

thanks

MT Alex · Jan 17, 2011, 02:57 AM

Yessiree, I like the side mounted tripple.
You must be the one who had the thread for mounting your PSU on the side? Seems to be a very nice way to gain some room. I looked at doing it to mine, but the mobo would literally rest on the top of the PSU, and it's only a mATX, so no expanding to a larger one. Wish I could find one of those old Rocketfish cases, huge. Although, cabling looks to be a tough go, not much space behind the mobo tray.

Wile E · Jan 17, 2011, 02:59 AM

I can't find where it was being discussed, but I was reading a thread somewhere that Dexcool doesn't necessarily have performance issues, but more like reliability issues in cooling loops.

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT Alex

Yessiree, I like the side mounted tripple.
You must be the one who had the thread for mounting your PSU on the side? Seems to be a very nice way to gain some room. I looked at doing it to mine, but the mobo would literally rest on the top of the PSU, and it's only a mATX, so no expanding to a larger one. Wish I could find one of those old Rocketfish cases, huge. Although, cabling looks to be a tough go, not much space behind the mobo tray.

that was me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

I can't find where it was being discussed, but I was reading a thread somewhere that Dexcool doesn't necessarily have performance issues, but more like reliability issues in cooling loops.

hmmm what do you mean by reliability like eating parts up or what?

edit after reading about 10 threads on different forums 1 thread listed someone with issues the rest were fine im going for it.

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 05:26 AM

all filled up running ~25% dexcool + ~75% water

laing D4 (corsair labeled) pump 1

3.5" bay res (petras ran out of black so they sent me this one with a huge discount)

fillport

laing D5 vario (swifty 655 vario) pump 2

backside of the res

here is the before its bad....

Wile E · Jan 17, 2011, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

that was me

hmmm what do you mean by reliability like eating parts up or what?

edit after reading about 10 threads on different forums 1 thread listed someone with issues the rest were fine im going for it.

1/10 is still not very good odds in reference to reliability. That's lawsuit territory for manufacturers.

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

1/10 is still not very good odds in reference to reliability. That's lawsuit territory for manufacturers.

only thing i read about was it hardening up so i will keep an eye out and hope for the best...it is still better than me constantly freezing my loop

Wile E · Jan 17, 2011, 05:50 AM

Yeah, but regular coolant doesn't, so why use dexcool?

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Yeah, but regular coolant doesn't, so why use dexcool?

its thinner and was in the garage regular coolant was not

the reports of it hardening up were in cars and only when owners let the coolant level get very low

Wile E · Jan 17, 2011, 05:54 AM

I was also a mechanic, and have leftover hate from that as well. It's not all that good.

And come on, regular coolant is less the $5.

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

I was also a mechanic, and have leftover hate from that as well. It's not all that good.

And come on, regular coolant is less the $5.

ahh but the trip to go get that coolant is not as easy as just the garage...~40miles round trip is not worth it

cdawall · Jan 17, 2011, 07:44 PM

pushing my little sempron that isntalled to around 140w TDP and its temp probe is reading 42C max while runnning wprime 1024

hmmm

no frozen lines

MT Alex · Jan 18, 2011, 01:46 AM

Can a push/pull setup be used with different fan types? I have 38mm pushers, and would like to add 25mm pulls. I assume they have to be of like speed.

EastCoasthandle · Jan 18, 2011, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT Alex

Can a push/pull setup be used with different fan types? I have 38mm pushers, and would like to add 25mm pulls. I assume they have to be of like speed.

What you don't want happening is one fan canceling the air pressure from another fan rendering it useless. Even though you can get fans of similar speed it doesn't mean they will perform the same under such conditions.

MT Alex · Jan 18, 2011, 02:44 AM

Gotcha.
Would shrouds offer the same amount of gain as going with push/pull?

cdawall · Jan 18, 2011, 03:01 AM

question location for a MCR220 stackable...were to put it?

i could possibly fit a MCR320 stack in the top but it would cover the ram and make swapping motherboards a PITA

Cold Storm · Jan 18, 2011, 03:05 AM

Bottom would work out better..

Swapping boards shouldn't take a person more then 20m.. If it does.. there's something wrong.. That would be one thing.. lol

cdawall · Jan 18, 2011, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Bottom would work out better..

Swapping boards shouldn't take a person more then 20m.. If it does.. there's something wrong.. That would be one thing.. lol

i would have to relocate the lower pump

MT Alex · Jan 18, 2011, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

Based on this pic, either spot should be pretty easy, I always think up top looks sharper. If you mounted your pump in a different spot, wouldn't a trip fit on the bottom, as well?

cdawall · Jan 18, 2011, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT Alex

Based on this pic, either spot should be pretty easy, I always think up top looks sharper. If you mounted your pump in a different spot, wouldn't a trip fit on the bottom, as well?

it cant fit with the PSU i hit the cables and it doesn't clear

MT Alex · Jan 18, 2011, 03:13 AM

Ah so.
What gains did you notice with push/pull as opposed to single side fans?

System Name:	Heatbitch / The Dark Tower / Custom Acer
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PSU:	Corsair TX850/ OCZ Modxstream-Pro 600W/ MS-Tech 750w
Software:	XP 32bit Professional+ Win7 64Bit Ultimate
Benchmarks:	3DMark Vantage: P21385 3DM11: P5920

Jan 16, 2011, 11:07 PM	#1302
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	so i am reworking my loop and am going to throw some antifreeze in it wilee was telling me dexcool is not as good as the old school green i am only running it at a 15% mix will it be that bad? __________________

System Name:	Deployment build
Processor:	Phenom II B97@4080mhz 1.6v (24/7 4800mhz max clock)
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair V Formula
Cooling:	Coolermaster V10 96w TEC, Scientific Rulian fans
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Video Card:	Sapphire 7950 3GB 1150/1400 1.27v
Hard Disk:	2x32GB STT SSD's raid 0, 1TB Samsung F3's, 1.5TB Seagate 7200.11
CRT/LCD Model:	STi 22"
Case:	Thermaltake Commandar MS-I Epic Edition
Sound Card:	E07K USB DAC->Fischer FA-002W High edition
PSU:	Antec TPQ-1200
Software:	windows 7 ultimate x64

Jan 17, 2011, 01:12 AM	#1303
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	double post but meh its club forums hows that look __________________

System Name:	Deployment build
Processor:	Phenom II B97@4080mhz 1.6v (24/7 4800mhz max clock)
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair V Formula
Cooling:	Coolermaster V10 96w TEC, Scientific Rulian fans
Memory:	4x4GB Wintec ONE 1800 9-10-9 1.62v (24/7)
Video Card:	Sapphire 7950 3GB 1150/1400 1.27v
Hard Disk:	2x32GB STT SSD's raid 0, 1TB Samsung F3's, 1.5TB Seagate 7200.11
CRT/LCD Model:	STi 22"
Case:	Thermaltake Commandar MS-I Epic Edition
Sound Card:	E07K USB DAC->Fischer FA-002W High edition
PSU:	Antec TPQ-1200
Software:	windows 7 ultimate x64

Jan 17, 2011, 02:34 AM	#1304
Cold Storm Battosai Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a library somewhere on this earth Posts: 10,566 (5.15/day) Thanks: 4,239 Thanked 3,047 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	Nice, tight and clean. Looks good. __________________ The only way success is before work, is in the dictionary Support for the mind. Support for your hardware

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Motherboard:	Biostar Tz77xme4
Cooling:	Koolance C370si loop
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Video Card:	XFX Double D 7950 / Zotac 620 for physx
Hard Disk:	Samsung 830 128gb (os)Muskin Chronos 120gb, Pyro 120gb
Optical Drive:	Asus Blu-Ray (SBW-06C1S-U)
CRT/LCD Model:	Testing: Vizio 37" lcd tv / Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24" & Hanns G 28"
Case:	Cooler Master Cosmos II
Sound Card:	Auzentech X-fi Forte 7.1 Opamp modded
PSU:	Silverstone Strider Plus 1000w pp05 cables
Software:	Win7 Pro64
Benchmarks:	i5 750 4.62ghz pi runs // Evga FTW p55

Jan 17, 2011, 02:57 AM	#1306
MT Alex Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 2,018 (1.45/day) Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,323 Times in 917 Posts System Specs	Yessiree, I like the side mounted tripple. You must be the one who had the thread for mounting your PSU on the side? Seems to be a very nice way to gain some room. I looked at doing it to mine, but the mobo would literally rest on the top of the PSU, and it's only a mATX, so no expanding to a larger one. Wish I could find one of those old Rocketfish cases, huge. Although, cabling looks to be a tough go, not much space behind the mobo tray. __________________ “growing up, i always wanted to be a vet. til i learned there was more to being a vet than just putting down cats all day.” -digibucc My 700D

System Name:	Abacus
Processor:	i5 2500K
Motherboard:	ASRock p67 Extreme4 Gen3
Cooling:	Swiftech MCP35X, 2 DD 5870 WB, EK HF Copper, 2.120 rad, 3.120 rad
Memory:	2x4GB G.Skill Sniper 1600
Video Card:	2 Sapphire HD 5870 w/ Danger Den WBs
Hard Disk:	WD 640BG x2/WD 250GB/Samsung 2TB
Optical Drive:	Silly
CRT/LCD Model:	ASUS VH242 23.6" LCD
Case:	Corsair 700D
Sound Card:	X-Fi XtremeGamer
PSU:	Thermaltake Toughpower 700w Modular
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM

Jan 17, 2011, 02:59 AM	#1307
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.48/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	I can't find where it was being discussed, but I was reading a thread somewhere that Dexcool doesn't necessarily have performance issues, but more like reliability issues in cooling loops. __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

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Memory:	3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24
Video Card:	Evga GTX 580
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Case:	Technofront Bench Station
Sound Card:	Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
PSU:	ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software:	Win7 Ultimate N x64

Jan 17, 2011, 05:26 AM	#1309
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	all filled up running ~25% dexcool + ~75% water laing D4 (corsair labeled) pump 1 3.5" bay res (petras ran out of black so they sent me this one with a huge discount) fillport laing D5 vario (swifty 655 vario) pump 2 backside of the res here is the before its bad.... __________________ Last edited by cdawall; Jan 17, 2011 at 05:43 AM.

Jan 17, 2011, 05:50 AM	#1312
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.48/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	Yeah, but regular coolant doesn't, so why use dexcool? __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

Jan 17, 2011, 05:54 AM	#1314
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.48/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	I was also a mechanic, and have leftover hate from that as well. It's not all that good. And come on, regular coolant is less the $5. __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

Jan 17, 2011, 07:44 PM	#1316
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	pushing my little sempron that isntalled to around 140w TDP and its temp probe is reading 42C max while runnning wprime 1024 hmmm no frozen lines __________________ Last edited by cdawall; Jan 17, 2011 at 08:31 PM.

Jan 18, 2011, 01:46 AM	#1317
MT Alex Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 2,018 (1.45/day) Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,323 Times in 917 Posts System Specs	Can a push/pull setup be used with different fan types? I have 38mm pushers, and would like to add 25mm pulls. I assume they have to be of like speed. __________________ “growing up, i always wanted to be a vet. til i learned there was more to being a vet than just putting down cats all day.” -digibucc My 700D

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Motherboard:	Maximus Formula
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Memory:	XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card:	HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Hard Disk:	2
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Jan 18, 2011, 02:44 AM	#1319
MT Alex Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 2,018 (1.45/day) Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,323 Times in 917 Posts System Specs	Gotcha. Would shrouds offer the same amount of gain as going with push/pull? __________________ “growing up, i always wanted to be a vet. til i learned there was more to being a vet than just putting down cats all day.” -digibucc My 700D

Jan 18, 2011, 03:01 AM	#1320
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	question location for a MCR220 stackable...were to put it? i could possibly fit a MCR320 stack in the top but it would cover the ram and make swapping motherboards a PITA __________________

Jan 18, 2011, 03:05 AM	#1321
Cold Storm Battosai Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a library somewhere on this earth Posts: 10,566 (5.15/day) Thanks: 4,239 Thanked 3,047 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	Bottom would work out better.. Swapping boards shouldn't take a person more then 20m.. If it does.. there's something wrong.. That would be one thing.. lol __________________ The only way success is before work, is in the dictionary Support for the mind. Support for your hardware

Jan 18, 2011, 03:13 AM	#1325
MT Alex Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 2,018 (1.45/day) Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,323 Times in 917 Posts System Specs	Ah so. What gains did you notice with push/pull as opposed to single side fans? __________________ “growing up, i always wanted to be a vet. til i learned there was more to being a vet than just putting down cats all day.” -digibucc My 700D

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