Need help with OS on new build

Murasame · Dec 22, 2006, 10:34 PM

I just build a new comp and need help with the OS. The specs of the new comp are in my avatar's system specs. My problem is that I don't own a copy of xp because my last comp was a dell. I do have the dell xp home re-install disc. I want to know if the dell ver is the same as a standard Microsoft copy or should I dl it online if there are big differences? I plan to upgrade this new comp to vista in january when it becomes available. So is it worth the trouble to get it online until then or would using the dell copy be good enough?

xylomn · Dec 22, 2006, 10:41 PM

the one you have from your dell probibly wont work, and I know for a fine fact that dell loads loads of call home crap with that version of windows from installing a room of them at a community centre, would be best to aquire a bog standard version of windows by your own means

Murasame · Dec 22, 2006, 10:45 PM

Thought that might be the case. Any idea where I can get a bog ver? Torrent maybe?
Also I keep reading about ppl using vista as there OS right now an RC1 ver I believe. Is it stable enough to use as my os on the new comp or would waiting for the actual public release be better?

AthlonX2 · Dec 22, 2006, 10:50 PM

dells version of xp home is OEM...not much of a difference but you will need to find a way to activate it..maybe use your dell product key that is on the side of the dell?

Murasame · Dec 22, 2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AthlonX2

dells version of xp home is OEM...not much of a difference but you will need to find a way to activate it..maybe use your dell product key that is on the side of the dell?

I do have a key given to me when the original hd on the dell died and I replaced it. Would there be anyway to get rid of all the dell stuff they put on the disc?

AthlonX2 · Dec 22, 2006, 10:55 PM

get nlite and .net framework 2 and you can strip everything out of the disc you dont want but you will need a cd burner and a blank cd

Murasame · Dec 22, 2006, 11:03 PM

I'll see about trying that. Hopefully its not very complicated.

Murasame · Dec 22, 2006, 11:16 PM

Which Nlight's am i to download? Self-extracting, installer, 1.3, 1.2?

PyroInc · Dec 22, 2006, 11:30 PM

get vista then transfer everything to an external HD. (that would be the easiest) If you dont have a generic windows OS cd then dl it by torrent or IRC

AthlonX2 · Dec 22, 2006, 11:36 PM

i wouldnt reccomend a beta os to anyone especially if they dont feel like formatting in a few months....just stick with your dell disc and strip things out get the newest nlite program..

Murasame · Dec 22, 2006, 11:55 PM

I am confused as hell. I downloaded nlite installer and .netframwork 2. The .net told me I can't install it because I didn't have certain things pre-done. I clicked the link to what to do and I got some 25step list of files and programs to remove, rename, install. Sorry if this wasn't implied in my first post, but this is the first comp I've built so I'm not that tech savy yet. Still learning.

AthlonX2 · Dec 23, 2006, 12:30 AM

not sure but you might have to have windows installer 3.1

Murasame · Dec 23, 2006, 12:35 AM

Well this is getting a lot more difficult than I expected. I can't seem to find an ISO torrent for xphome. If I dl XpHome with sp2 files can they be turned into an iso for instillation on my new comp?

AthlonX2 · Dec 23, 2006, 01:25 AM

you can create an iso yes....

Murasame · Dec 23, 2006, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AthlonX2

you can create an iso yes....

cool. I found 2 torrents that look good, but the sizes are so different. First I found a xp home sp2 that 1.5gigs large. Then I found a XP Pro/full student edition thats only 530megs. Can the pro/student one realy be the full OS in such a small file?

PyroInc · Dec 23, 2006, 02:17 AM

I tried doing that once and my dam comp wouldn't boot off the xphome cd. Just get XP PRO theres tons of those torrents out there and then burn it to cd.

Murasame · Dec 23, 2006, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PyroInc

I tried doing that once and my dam comp wouldn't boot off the xphome cd. Just get XP PRO theres tons of those torrents out there and then burn it to cd.

Thats what I was thinking since all that seems to be out there is xp pro. Just all the torrents are less than 600megs which just seems way to small to be the whole os.

PyroInc · Dec 23, 2006, 06:51 PM

na that sounds about right

Dec 22, 2006, 10:34 PM	#1
Murasame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: L.A. Posts: 127 (0.05/day) Thanks: 41 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	Need help with OS on new build I just build a new comp and need help with the OS. The specs of the new comp are in my avatar's system specs. My problem is that I don't own a copy of xp because my last comp was a dell. I do have the dell xp home re-install disc. I want to know if the dell ver is the same as a standard Microsoft copy or should I dl it online if there are big differences? I plan to upgrade this new comp to vista in january when it becomes available. So is it worth the trouble to get it online until then or would using the dell copy be good enough?

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Dec 22, 2006, 10:41 PM	#2
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System Name:	Amaterasu
Processor:	Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus Formula II P45
Cooling:	Zalman CNPS9500a
Memory:	OCZ (2 x 1GB) and (2 x 512MB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Video Card:	Sapphire HD3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
Hard Disk:	Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200.10 SATA 3.0Gb/s
Optical Drive:	Sony 18xDVD+/- Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 19" Widescreen LCD
Case:	Anted P180b
Sound Card:	Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE
PSU:	Rosewill T550w
Software:	Vista Home Premium
Benchmarks:	3DMark '06 - 8691

Dec 22, 2006, 10:45 PM	#3
Murasame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: L.A. Posts: 127 (0.05/day) Thanks: 41 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	Thought that might be the case. Any idea where I can get a bog ver? Torrent maybe? Also I keep reading about ppl using vista as there OS right now an RC1 ver I believe. Is it stable enough to use as my os on the new comp or would waiting for the actual public release be better?

Dec 22, 2006, 10:50 PM	#4
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,450 (2.22/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	dells version of xp home is OEM...not much of a difference but you will need to find a way to activate it..maybe use your dell product key that is on the side of the dell?

Dec 22, 2006, 10:55 PM	#6
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,450 (2.22/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	get nlite and .net framework 2 and you can strip everything out of the disc you dont want but you will need a cd burner and a blank cd

Dec 22, 2006, 11:03 PM	#7
Murasame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: L.A. Posts: 127 (0.05/day) Thanks: 41 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	I'll see about trying that. Hopefully its not very complicated.

Dec 22, 2006, 11:16 PM	#8
Murasame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: L.A. Posts: 127 (0.05/day) Thanks: 41 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	Which Nlight's am i to download? Self-extracting, installer, 1.3, 1.2?

Dec 22, 2006, 11:30 PM	#9
PyroInc Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 514 (0.20/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	get vista then transfer everything to an external HD. (that would be the easiest) If you dont have a generic windows OS cd then dl it by torrent or IRC

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Dec 22, 2006, 11:36 PM	#10
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,450 (2.22/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	i wouldnt reccomend a beta os to anyone especially if they dont feel like formatting in a few months....just stick with your dell disc and strip things out get the newest nlite program..

Dec 22, 2006, 11:55 PM	#11
Murasame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: L.A. Posts: 127 (0.05/day) Thanks: 41 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	I am confused as hell. I downloaded nlite installer and .netframwork 2. The .net told me I can't install it because I didn't have certain things pre-done. I clicked the link to what to do and I got some 25step list of files and programs to remove, rename, install. Sorry if this wasn't implied in my first post, but this is the first comp I've built so I'm not that tech savy yet. Still learning.

Dec 23, 2006, 12:30 AM	#12
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,450 (2.22/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	not sure but you might have to have windows installer 3.1

Dec 23, 2006, 12:35 AM	#13
Murasame Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: L.A. Posts: 127 (0.05/day) Thanks: 41 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	Well this is getting a lot more difficult than I expected. I can't seem to find an ISO torrent for xphome. If I dl XpHome with sp2 files can they be turned into an iso for instillation on my new comp?

Dec 23, 2006, 01:25 AM	#14
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,450 (2.22/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	you can create an iso yes....

Dec 23, 2006, 02:17 AM	#16
PyroInc Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 514 (0.20/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I tried doing that once and my dam comp wouldn't boot off the xphome cd. Just get XP PRO theres tons of those torrents out there and then burn it to cd.

Dec 23, 2006, 06:51 PM	#18
PyroInc Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 514 (0.20/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	na that sounds about right

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