Without pci-e power connectivity

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 05:23 PM

hey guys ....(sorry for my bad englis)

I have XFX 9800gtx+..so guys please tell me is there any way to know weather my vga card is working or not (at least detect..) without connecting pci-e power to my vga...

without pci e power.. vga fan spinning 100% speed with red light

Batou1986 · Jan 22, 2011, 05:29 PM

no it has to have power or it will not even detect it,
it will also keep the computer from starting if it has no power

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 05:35 PM

yes i'm using onboard vga...but vga is in pci slot...

mlee49 · Jan 22, 2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectenamy

hey guys ....(sorry for my bad englis)

I have XFX 9800gtx+..so guys please tell me is there any way to know weather my vga card is working or not (at least detect..) without connecting pci-e power to my vga...

without pci e power.. vga fan spinning 100% speed with red light

It's telling you it's not going to work without the pcie power supply with the fan spinning at 100% and a red light.

There are some "green" versions of the 9800 that do not require the pcie connector, perhaps that would suit you better?

Swamp Monster · Jan 22, 2011, 05:37 PM

Do you mean 6-pin connector? I guess it is not fully working until you plug it in. So you cannot detect if it is working, because it is not, until you plug it in.

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 05:42 PM

ok i'm telling you the actual problem...
i have seasonic s12 520w psu... when i power up vga with 2 6pin power connectors...my pc wont start. Even the psu is also not working...whole machine not working

Swamp Monster · Jan 22, 2011, 06:02 PM

Only not working when you connect 6 pin connectors? By not working you mean PSU fan not spinning? What does it do, Does it spins for a sec, and then turns off or what?

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 06:06 PM

please tell you ideas..where would be the problem..i get that psu brand new..before i had amacroax 500w when i was using it this problem occurred ..so i thougt that problem is in psu and got that seasonic one...but problem is still....
is my vga dead?

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Swamp Monster

Only not working when you connect 6 pin connectors? By not working you mean PSU fan not spinning? What does it do, Does it spins for a sec, and then turns off or what?

yes it spins for a second..then turn off...vag's green light on and immediatly disappear

Only not working when i connect 6 pin connectors

Radical_Edward · Jan 22, 2011, 06:13 PM

Sounds like a dead 9800. RMA it if it's still covered.

Swamp Monster · Jan 22, 2011, 06:15 PM

It means that Graphics card is consuming too much power, and PSU immediately turns itself off. This can be because of
your Graphics card is dead, causing short circuit.

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swamp Monster

It means that Graphics card is consuming too much power, and PSU immediately turns itself off. This can be because of two things:
1) You need a better PSU, because that 9800GTX+ is consuming about 225W, which could be a problem.
2) Your Graphics card is dead, causing short circuit.

if is it short circuit ..is it possible to repair? why is it short circuit?

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

Sounds like a dead 9800. RMA it if it's still covered.

yes...but i removed the heatsink and cleaned...but nothing happened

Swamp Monster · Jan 22, 2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectenamy

if is it short circuit ..is it possible to repair? why is it short circuit?

Short circuit can be caused if Voltage regulating Mosfets were overheating and heat destroyed them. To repair you need very good soldering skills, multimeter and replacement mosfets, which can be expensive.

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 06:38 PM

is oven baking thing help for that problem?....

Swamp Monster · Jan 22, 2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectenamy

is oven baking thing help for that problem?....

Oven baking helps only if GPU processor has bad soldering contacts (dry soldering). But in your case current flows uncontrolled thru dead Mosfets. Dead component is dead component, you cannot revive that by reflow techniques.

Radical_Edward · Jan 22, 2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectenamy

yes...but i removed the heatsink and cleaned...but nothing happened

I'm not saying clean it, I'm saying return it for a replacement to XFX IF it's still covered under warranty.

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

I'm not saying clean it, I'm saying return it for a replacement to XFX IF it's still covered under warranty.

no it is not possible. In sri lanka there is no xfx dealers.. I got it from friend

NdMk2o1o · Jan 22, 2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Swamp Monster

1) You need a better PSU, because that 9800GTX is consuming about 225W, which could be a problem.

225w for a 9800gtx are you for real

a 9800gtx probably consumes 100-120w max

OP try an 4pin>pcie 6pin adaptor your PSU should handle that system easily

Swamp Monster · Jan 22, 2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp Monster
1) You need a better PSU, because that 9800GTX is consuming about 225W, which could be a problem.
225w for a 9800gtx are you for real a 9800gtx probably consumes 100-120w max

Oh, sh.. I am sorry, I overlooked TPU review, it was all system's power consumption.

segalaw19800 · Jan 22, 2011, 07:27 PM

I will take that card and put it in a friend rig for testing

perfectenamy · Jan 22, 2011, 07:35 PM

in sri lanka there are very few people are using power hungry cards wich needs goods psu. I dont have a friend with good psu. That is the problem

segalaw19800 · Jan 22, 2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectenamy

in sri lanka there are very few people are using power hungry cards wich needs goods psu. I dont have a friend with good psu. That is the problem

find a friend who has a psu that is 550watt to try it with

segalaw19800 · Jan 22, 2011, 07:46 PM

is there a computer shop around there

Jan 22, 2011, 05:23 PM	#1
perfectenamy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 16 (0.02/day) Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Without pci-e power connectivity hey guys ....(sorry for my bad englis) I have XFX 9800gtx+..so guys please tell me is there any way to know weather my vga card is working or not (at least detect..) without connecting pci-e power to my vga... without pci e power.. vga fan spinning 100% speed with red light

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Jan 22, 2011, 05:35 PM	#3
perfectenamy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 16 (0.02/day) Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes i'm using onboard vga...but vga is in pci slot...

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Swamp Monster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Latvia Posts: 543 (0.58/day) Thanks: 127 Thanked 83 Times in 75 Posts System Specs	Do you mean 6-pin connector? I guess it is not fully working until you plug it in. So you cannot detect if it is working, because it is not, until you plug it in.

Jan 22, 2011, 05:42 PM	#6
perfectenamy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 16 (0.02/day) Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok i'm telling you the actual problem... i have seasonic s12 520w psu... when i power up vga with 2 6pin power connectors...my pc wont start. Even the psu is also not working...whole machine not working

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Swamp Monster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Latvia Posts: 543 (0.58/day) Thanks: 127 Thanked 83 Times in 75 Posts System Specs	Only not working when you connect 6 pin connectors? By not working you mean PSU fan not spinning? What does it do, Does it spins for a sec, and then turns off or what?

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perfectenamy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 16 (0.02/day) Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	please tell you ideas..where would be the problem..i get that psu brand new..before i had amacroax 500w when i was using it this problem occurred ..so i thougt that problem is in psu and got that seasonic one...but problem is still.... is my vga dead?

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perfectenamy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 16 (0.02/day) Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	in sri lanka there are very few people are using power hungry cards wich needs goods psu. I dont have a friend with good psu. That is the problem

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