Girl wont give up her Norton - Page 2

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 28, 2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pantherx12

Norton I tend to finds get's taken over by viruses easier than any other anti virus.

huh??? are you tired??

Solaris17 · Jan 28, 2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

huh??? are you tired??

drunk.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 28, 2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

drunk.

i wouldnt doubt it lol

_JP_ · Jan 28, 2011, 08:05 AM

My recommendations.
Free: MSE, Comodo, Avast.
Paid: ESET, Kaspersky.
And this is just for anti-virus or AV+firewall. I also use other stuff to keep the computer safe.

Melvis · Jan 28, 2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Haru

meh. I would agree that Norton hogs resources like no tomorrow, but frankly I don't think its too bad otherwise. certainly better than AVG or Avast (personal experience doesn't lie) I have never EVER gotten a virus with Norton, however I have with both AVG and Avast.

this being said, Norton is a resource hog, and likes to root itself in. If I wasn't getting it for free, I would not be using it.

Interesting as i have had the complete opposite, ive gone to a ladies place that had norton installed and it was easy to tell she had viruses on her computer, did a full scan and norton found nothing, installed avast and it found 15 in a very short amount of time.

I have seen this^ countless times on many machines that have norton, it just doesnt find shit.

95Viper · Jan 28, 2011, 08:13 AM

Personally, let her keep the Norton, just hop on your H-D and both of you, ride off to a romantic place and...

Ohhh, A\V software.
Norton does a decent job, but none of them is perfect. Due vigilance is best; along with Kaspersky (if you are wanting to pay for that warm secure feeling), Avira, MSE, Comodo, or other free options... also, Malwarebytes and\or Superantispyware as reserve clean-up crew.

Also, I have found that nortondns or opendns are fast and pretty good at warning of malicious sites.

W1zzard · Jan 28, 2011, 08:19 AM

and i came here thinking norton is internet speak for some battery operated girl device

LAN_deRf_HA · Jan 28, 2011, 08:37 AM

Last time I used norton a virus literally dismantled it. Scattered the files for it all over my computer. It was everywhere but the install folder.

Fatal · Jan 28, 2011, 08:44 AM

Comodo all the way I have installed it on every build I have done have not had any one bring it back due to viruses. Norton was a hog that I can remember slows pc's down big time. I am sure the new one might be better but its still Norton. I have cleaned a few computers that have had it and as many viruses their computers had I would think Norton was saying come right in.

HookeyStreet · Jan 28, 2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

My friend feels like her Norton anti virus is saving her computer better then anything else. However, i told her that Norton is the reason her computer is slow and its really not doing anything for her other then acting as Bloatware and recommended her MSE. However, shes worried that because its free its bad. So she wants to do research so i made a thread for her to see what you guys have to say. I think we can All agree Norton is terrible.

EDIT: Even Kalsperky or whatever it is is 100% better then Norton

Norton causes more harm than good. The first thing I do when repairing any system is remove Norton AV!

Why is she worried about using Microsoft Security Essentials? It's made by Micro$oft so you would think they know quite a bit about protecting a Windows based system

I switched from NOD32 to MSE and never looked back

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Originally Posted by W1zzard

and i came here thinking norton is internet speak for some battery operated girl device

LMFAO, yeah a big ol' double-ender called 'Norton'

Drone · Jan 28, 2011, 12:04 PM

It's just a myth and bullcrap that norton is slow. It was slow back in the day but norton antivirus 2011 is decent and it's much better than kaspersky. Kaspersky is the slowest and just a hog.

There are some decent free antiviruses: mse, avast, avira etc. Avg got worsen in the last couple of years.

Red_Machine · Jan 28, 2011, 12:18 PM

I'm a convert to Norton after swearing blind for years that I'd never buy an antivirus. I found a 6-month trial of IS and bought a license during my local WH Smith's Christmas sale.

Norton used to be crap, but they really got their act together with the 2010 release. The 2011 release is even better. From what I remember, you can use any Norton key with any newer version of the product. Try upgrading her to 2010/2011 and watch her computer fly.

MohawkAngel · Jan 28, 2011, 12:21 PM

Teel her: Its not because the guy is going slow that wont get aids ..you need protection ! :P

Frick · Jan 28, 2011, 12:26 PM

Drone and Red Machine are spot on. It used to be slow, but not anymore.

However, I feel that paid antivirus is pretty unneccesary nowadays. IS packs are a different story as they usually offer other things as well (like backup, parental controls and whatnot) though, but I would never pay for basic antivirus protection.

Mindweaver · Jan 28, 2011, 12:28 PM

The only thing symantec ever got right was ghost and backup exec and they are slowly screwing up both of those... lol +1 for avast, avg , comodo, or MSE. But i'm with everyone else.. you have to take time to setup comodo, but once you do your good to go.

CJCerny · Jan 28, 2011, 12:40 PM

I'm gonna stick my neck out here and give the Norton product a lot more credit than you guys are willing to. It finished first in the most recent Consumer Reports test. We recommend it to our customers. It is a resource hog, but there isn't any reason at all to get that girl to switch to something else if she already has Norton, unless you enjoy driving two hours every so often just to "work on her computer".

MohawkAngel · Jan 28, 2011, 12:45 PM

AVG internet security here valid until 2018 ill keep it hehe

Red_Machine · Jan 28, 2011, 12:46 PM

Aye, but which version is it? If you're on an older version, it's no good.

AsRock · Jan 28, 2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

thanks guys. this thread is just reinforcing my argument

In that case my ISP offers Norton 360 for free and still will not use it..

If the user uses P2P that be a great reason to use aVast as it detects viruses before download.

aVast, MSE, Outpost Security Suite and Kalsperky are the only ones i will use.

I did try Norton 360 like because it was free and did not like it for many reason one being lack of advanced control over a application.

MohawkAngel · Jan 28, 2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_Machine

Aye, but which version is it? If you're on an older version, it's no good.

The newest one I had version 9 before but now im having version 2011 ...my key is available for all Internet security versions

bogmali · Jan 28, 2011, 01:39 PM

I have Symantec's Endpoint Protection and McAfee's VirusScan Enterprise 870 which I use on all my rigs. I've never had any issues with them so it's probably the free version that is what's giving everyone the issues. I get them free from my company BTW

pr0n Inspector · Jan 28, 2011, 02:52 PM

The extreme amount of ignorance in this thread is not surprising. Norton was being praised everywhere for lightweight since two years ago.

Batou1986 · Jan 28, 2011, 03:07 PM

old cpu 2gb> ram MSSE
new cpu 2gb< ram norton

HookeyStreet · Jan 28, 2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Drone

It's just a myth and bullcrap that norton is slow. It was slow back in the day but norton antivirus 2011 is decent and it's much better than kaspersky. Kaspersky is the slowest and just a hog.

There are some decent free antiviruses: mse, avast, avira etc. Avg got worsen in the last couple of years.

But why bother payng for something when you can use MSE for free?

Sinzia · Jan 28, 2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

But why bother payng for something when you can use MSE for free?

^^ that.

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Jan 28, 2011, 08:05 AM	#29
_JP_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,121 (1.87/day) Thanks: 1,956 Thanked 647 Times in 468 Posts System Specs	My recommendations. Free: MSE, Comodo, Avast. Paid: ESET, Kaspersky. And this is just for anti-virus or AV+firewall. I also use other stuff to keep the computer safe.

Jan 28, 2011, 08:13 AM	#31
95Viper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: στο άλφα έως ωμέγα Posts: 3,841 (2.28/day) Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 1,417 Times in 1,116 Posts System Specs	Personally, let her keep the Norton, just hop on your H-D and both of you, ride off to a romantic place and... Ohhh, A\V software. Norton does a decent job, but none of them is perfect. Due vigilance is best; along with Kaspersky (if you are wanting to pay for that warm secure feeling), Avira, MSE, Comodo, or other free options... also, Malwarebytes and\or Superantispyware as reserve clean-up crew. Also, I have found that nortondns or opendns are fast and pretty good at warning of malicious sites. __________________ Heatware: 95viper TECHPOWERUP GEAR!

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Jan 28, 2011, 08:19 AM	#32
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,792 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,291 Times in 3,175 Posts System Specs	and i came here thinking norton is internet speak for some battery operated girl device

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Jan 28, 2011, 08:37 AM	#33
LAN_deRf_HA Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,024 (2.14/day) Thanks: 290 Thanked 831 Times in 588 Posts System Specs	Last time I used norton a virus literally dismantled it. Scattered the files for it all over my computer. It was everywhere but the install folder.

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Jan 28, 2011, 08:44 AM	#34
Fatal Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 575 (0.36/day) Thanks: 222 Thanked 112 Times in 96 Posts System Specs	Comodo all the way I have installed it on every build I have done have not had any one bring it back due to viruses. Norton was a hog that I can remember slows pc's down big time. I am sure the new one might be better but its still Norton. I have cleaned a few computers that have had it and as many viruses their computers had I would think Norton was saying come right in. __________________

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Jan 28, 2011, 12:04 PM	#36
Drone Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Nonlocal location Posts: 1,897 (1.90/day) Thanks: 62 Thanked 822 Times in 525 Posts System Specs	It's just a myth and bullcrap that norton is slow. It was slow back in the day but norton antivirus 2011 is decent and it's much better than kaspersky. Kaspersky is the slowest and just a hog. There are some decent free antiviruses: mse, avast, avira etc. Avg got worsen in the last couple of years.

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Jan 28, 2011, 12:18 PM	#37
Red_Machine Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Marlow, ENGLAND Posts: 1,454 (1.50/day) Thanks: 149 Thanked 279 Times in 226 Posts System Specs	I'm a convert to Norton after swearing blind for years that I'd never buy an antivirus. I found a 6-month trial of IS and bought a license during my local WH Smith's Christmas sale. Norton used to be crap, but they really got their act together with the 2010 release. The 2011 release is even better. From what I remember, you can use any Norton key with any newer version of the product. Try upgrading her to 2010/2011 and watch her computer fly. __________________ Alienware M11x R1 Netbook: 1.3GHz Core2 Duo U7300 (OC'd to 1.7GHz) \| 8GB Corsair DDR3 1333MHz \| nVIDIA GeForce GT 335M 1GB/Intel GMA 4500MHD Hyrbid Graphics System \| Western Digital Scorpio Black 500GB \| Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician \| CompTIA A+ Certified Heatware

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Jan 28, 2011, 12:21 PM	#38
MohawkAngel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,814 (1.14/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 128 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	Teel her: Its not because the guy is going slow that wont get aids ..you need protection ! :P

Jan 28, 2011, 12:26 PM	#39
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Jan 28, 2011, 12:28 PM	#40
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Jan 28, 2011, 12:40 PM	#41
CJCerny Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 758 (0.46/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 213 Times in 178 Posts	I'm gonna stick my neck out here and give the Norton product a lot more credit than you guys are willing to. It finished first in the most recent Consumer Reports test. We recommend it to our customers. It is a resource hog, but there isn't any reason at all to get that girl to switch to something else if she already has Norton, unless you enjoy driving two hours every so often just to "work on her computer".

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Jan 28, 2011, 12:45 PM	#42
MohawkAngel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,814 (1.14/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 128 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	AVG internet security here valid until 2018 ill keep it hehe

Jan 28, 2011, 12:46 PM	#43
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Jan 28, 2011, 01:39 PM	#46
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Motherboard:	Gigabyte X79-UD3/Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3
Cooling:	Corsair H70/CoolIt Vantage ALC
Memory:	Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3-1600 4X4GB/Kingston KVR16N11K2/16 2X8GB
Video Card:	MSI GTX660ti Power Edition/EVGA GTX-680
Hard Disk:	Samsung 830 256GB SSD, Seagate 320GB/Samsung 840 256GB SSD, 2 WD Green 1.5TB
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD/LG DVD-RW/NEC DVD-RW ND-3540A
CRT/LCD Model:	LG Flatron E2350V
Case:	Antec Eleven Hundred/Rocketfish Case (Lian-Li made)
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Enermax Infinity 720W/Rosewill Xtreme 950W
Software:	Win7 Ultimate 64 /Win7 Professional
Benchmarks:	Xbox Live Gamertag=jondonken

Jan 28, 2011, 02:52 PM	#47
pr0n Inspector Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,193 (0.73/day) Thanks: 65 Thanked 139 Times in 107 Posts System Specs	The extreme amount of ignorance in this thread is not surprising. Norton was being praised everywhere for lightweight since two years ago. __________________ Are you sure you want to cancel this action? OK / Cancel

System Name:	sans nom
Processor:	AMD 1090T, EK Supreme hf
Motherboard:	MSI 890GXM-G65
Cooling:	Feser X-480, MCR220-QP, MCP655, Ek D5 TOP
Memory:	2 x G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 570, Ek GTX 580 FC block
Hard Disk:	X25M 80GB 34nm, WDC WD20EARS, WD15EADS, WD6401AALS
Optical Drive:	Pioneer DVR-216D
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer P191w, Philips 240PW9EB, ColorMunki Photo
Case:	SST-TJ07B-W
Sound Card:	Asus Essence ST
PSU:	Corsair TX750

Jan 28, 2011, 03:07 PM	#48
Batou1986 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 1,938 (0.69/day) Thanks: 123 Thanked 282 Times in 236 Posts System Specs	old cpu 2gb> ram MSSE new cpu 2gb< ram norton __________________ Windows 8 its like they re made a bad ass car that everyone loved, Then took away the steering wheel and make you steer with your toes.

Processor:	FX-4100 4.2Ghz
Motherboard:	Gigabyte 970A-UD3
Cooling:	Xigmatek S1283, 75cfm Scythe S-Flex's
Memory:	2x4Gb Corsair 1600 9-9-9-24
Video Card:	Crossfire XFX HD6870
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex 3 120G, 150Gb VRaptor, 1TB WD Green
Optical Drive:	For What ?
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell S2330MX
Case:	Antec P182 Boltgun Metal
Sound Card:	X-Fi Fatal1ty / 5.1 Logitech Z-5500
PSU:	Silverstone DA750
Software:	Win7 x64 Pro