Intel Identifies Sandy Bridge Chipset Design Error, All Shipments Stopped

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Ya see its simple. For every fanboy comment that is made against Intel karma notes. AMD will have something equal or worse happen to them in return. E-peen destruction everywhere. The world of peen will end as we know it.

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I agree. Keep the trolling down and leave it to the professionals. This is bad news for a lot of our tech brothers.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by happita

Upgrading from an i7 setup to a sandy bridge now won't get you a huge performance boost such as waiting for the i7 sandys. Then that will be for the highend epeeners
But seriously, it's going to be great to see how it competes with Zambezi.

i dont get why everyone is bringing up e-peen. Are you confused? it doesnt affect stuff like benchmark scores SB users will still school you. its a SATA chip for christ sake. it doesnt effect anything else on the board.

This message is brought to you by Solaris17 a non SB user.

[xbonez]

Also, worth noting:

the flaw is restricted to a performance issue and cannot cause data loss.

(taken from Intel's official announcement of the flaw)

So, unless you're all about benchmarking HDD speeds, you have nothing to worry about. Even if you are, you have nothing to worry about for atleast a couple of years.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

i dont get why everyone is bringing up e-peen. Are you confused? it doesnt affect stuff like benchmark scores SB users will still school you. its a SATA chip for christ sake. it doesnt effect anything else on the board.

This message is brought to you by Solaris17 a non SB user.

E-peen: A state of mind that the victim is left believing he/she has the 133test hardware. It can also be diagnosed as "Hey look I have the latest sh!t!" bug.

[Paulieg]

Even if the affects will take 2-4 years to show up, it will have impact on reselling the board. For that reason, I will be returning my board as soon as I am able to. That is certain.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

E-peen: A state of mind that the victim is left believing he/she has the 133test hardware. It can also be diagnosed as "Hey look I have the latest sh!t!" bug.

99% of the forum your argument is invalid. its a SATA chip it has nothing to do with actual sandybridge performance just the performance of HDD's assuming your chip is bad.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

99% of the forum your argument is invalid. its a SATA chip it has nothing to do with actual sandybridge performance just the performance of HDD's assuming your chip is bad.

Please see "Hey look I have the latest sh!t!" bug. Early adopters do so often for E-peen.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

99% of the forum your argument is invalid. its a SATA chip it has nothing to do with actual sandybridge performance just the performance of HDD's assuming your chip is bad.

if data cannot get from the hdd to the ram for the cpu to crunch, you bet it affects performance.


Shocking claim, coming from you. Or is it?

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

99% of the forum your argument is invalid. its a SATA chip it has nothing to do with actual sandybridge performance just the performance of HDD's assuming your chip is bad.

It affects only boards using a SATA controller other than Marvell.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

if data cannot get from the hdd to the ram for the cpu to crunch, you bet it affects performance.


Shocking claim, coming from you. Or is it?

lulz Hes trying.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

lulz Hes trying.

if your into benching your SSD every 5min then that could be a problem in about 2 years. i dont understand how the claim is so shocking im not on the latest hardware.

[cadaveca]

You don't have dead baords sitting in your computing room.


I do.


Maybe this is the cause of my problems? Can't say for sure, but you bet I've had issues. You don't have the hardware, so even commenting on it seems foolish from that perspective...with no experience with the issues surrounding the chipset, how can you even claim what/how this bug affects users?

Not to single you out(although I am), without concrete evidence as to how this bug plays out, making comments on how this bug affects users is just not the right approach.

Leave that to the experts. And the Intel experts think that this is a large enough issue to make a public statement, and to start recalling boards from OEMs.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

if your into benching your SSD every 5min then that could be a problem in about 2 years. i dont understand how the claim is so shocking im not on the latest hardware.

I was talking about the e-peen.

[devguy]

As was mentioned already, a lot of motherboards available have a separate SATA/RAID controller (usually Marvel), so just use that in case you are affected. I hear Intel is actually manning up on the situation.

And no one is going to stop the haters from hating on Intel about this. I remember the TLB B2 Phenoms and how much shit was thrown at them by client-system Intel enthusiasts. I mean, sure it was a big deal in the Server space (Barcelona), but myself and 4 others I know who had a B2 Agena powering a desktop workstation never encountered the bug to this day.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

You don't have dead baords sitting in your computing room.


I do.


Maybe this is the cause of my problems? Can't say for sure, but you bet I've had issues. You don't have the hardware, so even commenting on it seems foolish from that perspective...with no experience with the issues surrounding the chipset, how can you even claim what/how this bug affects users?

Not to single you out(although I am), without concrete evidence as to how this bug plays out, making comments on how this bug affects users is just not the right approach.

Leave that to the experts. And the Intel experts think that this is a large enough issue to make a public statement, and to start recalling boards from OEMs.

commenting isnt foolish. I dont have an intrest in your dead boards nor do i believe they are related to the SATA problem. if the board is dead I can almost garentee it isnt an issue with this as it said nothing about the board dying only that performance will degrade. Not owning the hardware has nothing to do with the fact that i can read. In fact i think im a little less bias'd in that aspect because im not the one with dead SB boards in my room all butt hurt and using a SATA chip as an excuse to bash intel. I hardly consider you an expert more like someone with money to blow, dont assume that im somehow intellectually inferior to yourself the stench of ignorance is extreme.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by devguy

As was mentioned already, a lot of motherboards available have a separate SATA/RAID controller (usually Marvel), so just use that in case you are affected. I hear Intel is actually manning up on the situation.

And no one is going to stop the haters from hating on Intel about this. I remember the TLB B2 Phenoms and how much shit was thrown at them by client-system Intel enthusiasts. I mean, sure it was a big deal in the Server space (Barcelona), but myself and 4 others I know who had a B2 Agena powering a desktop workstation never encountered the bug to this day.

And thats my point. EVERYONE runs into problems. Intel, AMD it don't matter. It just matters to the fanboys and their e-peen. I'm glad Intel came out and said "hey we F@#ked up" instead of denying the issue and the EU suing them 10 years from now.

[xbonez]

It doesn't affect the 6GBps SATA ports either. 3 years down the line, I really hope we've all moved on to that.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

lulz Hes trying.

lulz your not ?

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

commenting isnt foolish. I dont have an intrest in your dead boards nor do i believe they are related to the SATA problem. if the board is dead I can almost garentee it isnt an issue with this as it said nothing about the board dying only that performance will degrade. Not owning the hardware has nothing to do with the fact that i can read. In fact i think im a little less bias'd in that aspect because im not the one with dead SB boards in my room all butt hurt and using a SATA chip as an excuse to bash intel.

I'm not bashing intel. I was bashing them where? You sound alot more angry about this than I do, but you always like to complain, from my experience.

I'm just stating facts. If it was a non-issue, there would have been no statements, and no recall of the older chips.


It affects me directly...I now have boards that I will have issues selling, as they were from before release. And no, they are not dead due to overvotling the cpu...at least not intentionally. I had a problem from day one, even had to return cpu for testing. The cpu tested fine.

I commend Intel for taking steps so early to deal with the problem, 100%. This is much better than nVidia with thier issues with certain chipsets, that Mr NV never answers direct questions about.


So all I can say...Good job intel, for maknig sure your customers get all they should out of your products.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

http://www.surreal-reality.com/Image...sir_trolls.jpg

lulz your not ?

I don't need to try. I'm a natural. But in this case what I said is true.

[LittleLizard]

I would seriously expected that if there was going to be trouble with sandy bridge, it would be the processor with the Graphics & CPU on one die design. But not the chipset.

[Easy Rhino]

this will have little to no impact on the stock price of intel nor will it be a major inconvenience for customers.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by LittleLizard

I would seriously expected that if there was going to be trouble with sandy bridge, it would be the processor with the Graphics & CPU on one die design. But not the chipset.

Its the everyday shit that gets you. Not climbing Everest for the first time.

@Easy Rhino:

Your Rhino looks fat.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

this will have little to no impact on the stock price of intel nor will it be a major inconvenience for customers.

It's had a little impact already, especially considering the annoucement of a major succesful deal that should have caused thier shares to increase in price today. So the actual imapct on shares isn't exactly transparent.


But, you are right...the boards have been on the market for less than a month. Personally I think this will affect the OEMs like Dell and HP more than anyone else, as they build units in the order of 1000's at a time. they probably have 100.'s of 100's of unit ready to ship, that must now have boards replaced.

That deal I speak of? Here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20

[LittleLizard]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

this will have little to no impact on the stock price of intel nor will it be a major inconvenience for customers.

impact it had. But it wont last more than a few days unless another design flaw shows up.

edit:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Its the everyday shit that gets you. Not climbing Everest for the first time.

Lol. That means that if i thought of a financial standard to stop the UE from going bust, i should try it first which i cant cause it will destroy the market if something goes wrong?