Thermal paste

[SpeedsticK]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

You can buy a gigantic $8 tube of Arctic Alumina, and it performs within 1° of MX2.

Will this be good, because that would save me a ton of money lol. I just don't want it turning into a 'glue' and never coming off of my processor.

Also the Shin Etsu is very good, i didn't know Intel used it as a stock thermal paste for their dual cores back in 2005, Corsair uses Shin Etsu thermal paste on their Corsair H50, and it's pretty good.

[anas]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

After reading the thread a little more, it sounds like you are leaving the voltage to auto, is that correct? I only say that because you are running at decent temps at 3.8GHz in your screen shot, and then you say it jumps up to 90°C at 4.0GHz, that sounds like the motherboard is giving the processor way too much voltage. Like I said, you might be able to get 4.0GHz on the stock cooler with acceptable temps, you just are going to have to adjust the voltage manually.

And the guy a Overclockersclub in the review that you linked to was not using the stock cooler, he didn't even recieve a stock cooler with the chip, so he had to be using something aftermarket even though he never mentions it.

i changed the voltage manually to 1.3 at 4Ghz while its 1.175 at 3.8

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...l_e8500/16.htm

quote :

All of the tests were on a stock Intel heatsink and never got above 70 degrees Celsius

[Paulieg]

Originally Posted by anas

i changed the voltage manually to 1.3 at 4Ghz while its 1.175 at 3.8

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...l_e8500/16.htm

quote :

All of the tests were on a stock Intel heatsink and never got above 70 degrees Celsius

I think at the very least, he had a really cool running chip and he switch out the thermal paste.

[anas]

well at least your right . it wasnt the case with me at all i went to 95c

[anas]

Originally Posted by BondExtreme

Baha. An E8500 at 4 with stock? No no no no..

i cleaned up the stock heat sink and there was loads of dust in it , i moved to vcore 1.3
tested with 15 min full load with real temp load test and everything is fine here : 76c max



http://img01.imagecanon.com/img.php?...da06a687ce10e0

with normal benchmark 3dmark11 max temp 67c




http://img01.imagecanon.com/img.php?...14d603ce3cbf83

so you underestimated that stock heat-sink ?

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by SpeedsticK

Will this be good, because that would save me a ton of money lol. I just don't want it turning into a 'glue' and never coming off of my processor.

Also the Shin Etsu is very good, i didn't know Intel used it as a stock thermal paste for their dual cores back in 2005, Corsair uses Shin Etsu thermal paste on their Corsair H50, and it's pretty good.

Yes, I've switched to using Artic Alumina entirely now that I've run out of MX2. It is really good paste, and doesn't turn to cement after a few months of use.

Originally Posted by anas

i changed the voltage manually to 1.3 at 4Ghz while its 1.175 at 3.8

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...l_e8500/16.htm

quote :

All of the tests were on a stock Intel heatsink and never got above 70 degrees Celsius

Ah, sorry, I missed that. None the less, he just said he was using a stock Intel heatsink, not the stock Intel heatsink.

Thre is a big difference between the older style stock Intel heatsinks with the copper core and taller design and the shitty low profile all aluminum things they include with the processors today. I would say it is possible to hit 4GHz+ with a 45nm Core 2 Duo using a stock heatsink from a Pentium D. Because the stock heatsink from the Pentium D was a beast.

Originally Posted by anas

i cleaned up the stock heat sink and there was loads of dust in it , i moved to vcore 1.3
tested with 15 min full load with real temp load test and everything is fine here : 76c max

http://img01.imagecanon.com/thumbs/1...cture001-3.jpg

http://img01.imagecanon.com/img.php?...da06a687ce10e0

with normal benchmark 3dmark11 max temp 67c

http://img01.imagecanon.com/thumbs/1...cture001-4.jpg


http://img01.imagecanon.com/img.php?...14d603ce3cbf83

so you underestimated that stock heat-sink ?

Lets see some OCCT Linpack tests and then we'll see how temps are. But that looks good.

[20mmrain]

STOOOPPPP Don't do it!!! You Stock CPU Cooler won't be enough...... Try looking at something like the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ at very least. That is a CPU cooler on the cheaper end but it is one of the best ones.
If you want better and a little more expensive a Zerotherm ZT-10D would do the trick too. Also of course you got your normals of Prolimatech Megahalems or Thermalright True 120's.
As far as the thermal paster don't worry about. It can handle temps way higher then you CPU can put out!!!
If you are looking for a good Thermal paste I would look for maybe The Artic cooling MX2/MX3 maybe the Gelid GC-Extreme (What I use found it to work best for me) or just good old Artic silver 5 (which is not as good... but it was one time the best)

Maybe also do a little more research on overclocking too. Just for safety sake it sounds like your possible first time.

[anas]

i dont want to use cpu burn s/w . i think benchmarks and real temp are enough at this time .
if i had crashes i will come back here and ask for help . ok ?

[Bo$$]

temps are alright, as long as it wont hit 80c over like 3-6 hours you will be fine

[anas]

after 40 on real temp ut wont pass 76c so its not gonna go higher .
but if i crash because of other settings u will ask here . i dont think it will be
vcore issue right ? maybe ram voltage or something ,

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by anas

i dont want to use cpu burn s/w . i think benchmarks and real temp are enough at this time .
if i had crashes i will come back here and ask for help . ok ?

I wouldn't bank on that. It isn't a good idea to not load the CPU to the max and make sure the heatsink can handle the load. If you are going to be running these settings 24/7 then you want to make sure the heatsink can handle it. Otherwise the CPU could overheat.

[anas]

but in that screen i opened 4 load tester screens and ran it for 15 min like you see and
the load was 100% so ? ill make another real temp 1 hour test . but not burn tests

[erocker]

FYI tjmax for e8400 is 95c, not 100c.

[anas]

but i have 8500 and my tjmax is 100c i dont get ure point

[erocker]

e8500 is 95c as well. My point is, you need to change it in RealTemp or just add 5c to your current temperatures.

As a past e8400, e8500 and e8600 owner I would not recommend using the cooler you are using for the clocks you are trying to achieve. You are just degrading your CPU.

[n-ster]

used to be 95C and they put it to 100C after

[anas]

so i went to 97 c yesterday , that means i passed tjmax??? what then? the thermal might be waned off? , what about max temp in bios ?
should that work also?

am under 75c with stock fan i know its not recommended but its working so...

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by anas

but in that screen i opened 4 load tester screens and ran it for 15 min like you see and
the load was 100% so ? ill make another real temp 1 hour test . but not burn tests

Yes, but my point is that you need a burn test to make sure 1.) that your overclock is actually stable and 2.) that your heatsink can actually handle the heat in a high stress situation.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by anas

am under 75c with stock fan i know its not recommended but its working so...

...you may be slowly damaging your CPU. Maybe. It's your hardware, have fun with it and do as you please.

[anas]

ok its an old boot anyway , am getting a new upgrade next summer .

all i want is to be stable at my current settings ,if i crashed and it wasnt a heat issue i would
appreciate further help from you guys ,thanks

[anas]

btw isnt real temp made by this web ? why dont u guys update the tjmax to 95c ??
so that your software would not damage any hardware , right ?

[erocker]

Originally Posted by anas

btw isnt real temp made by this web ? why dont u guys update the tjmax to 95c ??
so that your software would not damage any hardware , right ?

One individual makes RealTemp. There is a RealTemp section where this question would be more appropriate. Besides, you have the option to change it yourself. Also, wrong. The software doesn't damage the hardware, the end-user does.

[Velvet Wafer]

"The greatest danger for a rig, is the User in front of it"

[anas]

yes i will post there , but what if the user truted the tjmax of the s/w ? and didnt ask at
the forum? i did that and am not such a newbie .

[erocker]

Originally Posted by n-ster

used to be 95C and they put it to 100C after

I may have been wrong and it's a 5c difference. Doesn't matter. I would be more concerned about using a stock-ish cooler at the frequencies you are running. Either way it's your hardware, I don't care.