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Old Mar 9, 2011, 07:51 PM   #26
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But they were obviosly waiting. If it had been slower or if HD6990 had consumed a lot less, they would have delayed* it and make the adjustments. The fact they are releasing it and so soon is enough proof that it is faster.

* It wouldn't even be a delay, because releadse date had not been announced yet.
That's irrelevant to the fact that a specs for the card was already establish well before the release of the 6990. Therefore, no connection can be made. One could hypotheses that availability of the card could have played a part of the release date. But not to make changes to it once the 6690 is released and make their own hard release 2 weeks later. To simplify it, AMD released 1st this time.

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i like that you mentioned that crysis is intially going to be dx 9. hilarious that nvidia would time the release of what will be the most powerful gpu ever made for a game that "initially" requires 1/8 of its power...
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That's irrelevant to the fact that a specs for the card was already establish well before the release of the 6990. Therefore, no connection can be made. One could hypotheses that availability of the card could have played a part of the release date. But not to make changes to it once the 6690 is released and make their own hard release 2 weeks later. To simplify it, AMD released 1st this time.
It doesn't matter if specs were established, they could have delayed the release 2 weeks and adjust the cards, which is what AMD did with HD69xx lauch. Many partners didn't have the final bios days before they had to send them to retailers.
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It doesn't matter if specs were established, they could have delayed the release 2 weeks and adjust the cards, which is what AMD did with HD69xx lauch. Many partners didn't have the final bios days before they had to send them to retailers.
LOL, I don't find it necessary to argue with you about your conspiracy theory. Clock were finalized long ago if we are expecting a hard release in 2 weeks. Apparently, 6990 has performed better then some expected .
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they are going to use the same pcb as their original design?? that pic had gf100 gpus, so the newer one shouldnt have as much vrms, they are not needed with gf110. IDK one would think they would release a new pcb image at least
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I feel a bundle comming... Crysis 2 with GTX 590.

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Nvidia said nothing about shader count or clock speeds... Although it's almost certain that it will be two 570's. This should be pretty interesting, since the 570 and 6970 perform on par. Clocks of course play a big part in if this is able to claim the crown.
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LOL, I don't find it necessary to argue with you about your conspiracy theory. Clock were finalized long ago if we are expecting a hard release in 2 weeks. Apparently, 6990 has performed better then some expected .
First of all who says it's going to be a hard launch.

Second, there's no conspiracy theory, both have been doing this kind of thing for a long time. It takes 2 weeks to pack and supply main retailers (hint), so the cards were there waiting to be sent. They were finalized, no one said the opposite, but Nvidia had 2 or 3 different bios with different specs (clocks) that had been qualified for release. They went with what they thought was the best, and the cards are ready to go, but if HD6990 had been much better than they thought, they would send the new bios, delay the release so that partners can do the changes and fixed.

Besides they have not had 2 weeks to make this, they knew what the final specs of HD6990 were at least 2-4 weeks ago, because that's when partners got the cards. That gives Nvidia up to 6 weeks to make the required changes.
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Nvidia said nothing about shader count or clock speeds... Although it's almost certain that it will be two 570's. This should be pretty interesting, since the 570 and 6970 perform on par. Clocks of course play a big part in if this is able to claim the crown.
That's what I was thinking, performance on par with the 6990
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That's what I was thinking, performance on par with the 6990
That's my thoughts as well. But we will see once it was released. I'm basing that on the 570 SLI though. I wouldn't be surprised if reviewers already have the cards or will soon get them.

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Anyone betting which card will be faster? gtx 590 or hd 6990?
I put my money on the hd 6990. nVidia's last dual card was gtx295 in 2008. ATI released the following cards: 4850 X2, 4870 X2, 5970 while nvidia none after gtx295
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For once I'm going to side with Benetanegia (maybe it's my GTX 580 talking). The 6990 comes out and now we get the very quick post 6990 snippet about the GTX 590 coming out on the 22nd.

The date hasn't been comfirmed yet by NV officially?? so it looks to me as if they were waiting to see how the 6990 panned out.

Two weeks before the 6990 release the rumour was that NV would release first and AMD were waiting to see how it was.

My thoughts? AMD got a bit twitchy and figured, 'fuck it' we release now and get to say the most powerful graphics card on the planet. Then they sweat it out and see what the 590 brings. I think the 590 could well be clocked down 580's.

We'll see. I still have no interest in owning one (unless it's quiet and is given to me)

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I put my money on the hd 6990. nVidia's last dual card was gtx295 in 2008. ATI released the following cards: 4850 X2, 4870 X2, 5970 while nvidia none after gtx295
Thats because ATI didnt get the single gpu crown. NV got the fastest gpu's - didnt really need the e-peen. Now they do.
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For once I'm going to side with Benetanegia (maybe it's my GTX 580 talking). The 6990 comes out and now we get the very quick post 6990 snippet about the GTX 590 coming out on the 22nd.

The date hasn't been comfirmed yet by NV officially?? so it looks to me as if they were waiting to see how the 6990 panned out.

Two weeks before the 6990 release the rumour was that NV would release first and AMD were waiting to see how it was.

My thoughts? AMD got a bit twitchy and figured, 'fuck it' we release now and get to say the most powerful graphics card on the planet. Then they sweat it out and see what the 590 brings. I think the 590 could well be clocked down 580's.

We'll see. I still have no interest in owning one (unless it's quiet and is given to me)



Thats because ATI didnt get the single gpu crown. NV got the fastest gpu's - didnt really need the e-peen. Now they do.
I dont think they will be able to do two 580s. Im thinking more of two 570s or 560s.
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Anyone betting which card will be faster? gtx 590 or hd 6990?
I put my money on the hd 6990. nVidia's last dual card was gtx295 in 2008. ATI released the following cards: 4850 X2, 4870 X2, 5970 while nvidia none after gtx295
They could improve the scaling in some of the games tested on the 6990 IMO. It will be interesting to see any new drivers from them between then and now (besides cat 11.3).
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Everybody saying the 6990 will get curb stomper has viewed xfire 6970 vs sli 580 reviews right? Cause that showed the xfire setup ahead by a little bit. Everyone seems to forget amd's scaling is higher
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Those GPUs are huge comparing with the ones from 6990...
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Everybody saying the 6990 will get curb stomper has viewed xfire 6970 vs sli 580 reviews right? Cause that showed the xfire setup ahead by a little bit. Everyone seems to forget amd's scaling is higher
it is now. was never like that. however, just blatently saying that AMD scaling is higher or better is quite bold. It really depends on the games. Some like CF some like SLI.
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Anyone betting which card will be faster? gtx 590 or hd 6990?
I put my money on the hd 6990. nVidia's last dual card was gtx295 in 2008. ATI released the following cards: 4850 X2, 4870 X2, 5970 while nvidia none after gtx295
the 6990 has proved to set the bar really high, especially on its second more awesome bios, but I wouldnt count nvidia out...

also as for ATI releasing those cards... the GTX295 was the answer to the 4870X2, coming a few months later, and I belive sapphire designed and made the only 4850X2, not ATI.

I'm willing to grant they didnt have an answer to the 5970 but theyre comitted to rivaling the 6990, and this is both camps 4th dual GPU card, the war is on!
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