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Old Mar 18, 2011, 06:02 PM   #2826
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OK, since the ground rules for the Chimp Challenge appear to be improvement over your PPD average(based on the last 4 months), I have a proposition for my WCG brothers. The F@H team can move hardware over to WCG for the next month or so and in return, the WCG Team can help us during the 2 weeks of the Chimp Challenge(starting May 5th). We would need as much participation from the WCG team as possible. What do you say guy's? I have 4 -i7's that will be switched over to WCG within the next 24hrs if you find this arrangement satisfactory.
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Old Mar 18, 2011, 06:14 PM   #2827
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I'm cool with other team members switching, but I won't. I have 5 rigs running and I don't want to screw with the 3 that are dedicated crunchers. On the 2 that are my primaries, I have them set to suspend when I'm using them and since I'm on one or the other pretty much all day long, they don't tend to produce much. You can check my host stats on BOINC stats and see what I'm saying.

Also, I'm too much of a points whore to do anything like that. I know it's selfish, but I'm being honest. I'm sure a good chunk of the other team members will be down with that suggestion so don't regard my response as in any way representative.
 
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Buck I'm in, however I have nothing to switch over. All my cards fold except my 5870 which for the CC I will put to fold like I put my 5770's last year. I got no CPU's worthy of F@H.
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I thought that graphics cards blow cpu's away on folding. There are some cards that can do over 10k per day. I can only imagine what you get with SLI/xfire. Do any cpu's even come close?
Before the big advance (AKA -bigadv) work units came to surface, GPU's had the upperhand. The bonus completion points for the -bigadv on top of the normal PPD gives it somewhere in the 65K-75K PPD range which is something a single or dual card PPD wise cannot match.
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Before the big advance (AKA -bigadv) work units came to surface, GPU's had the upperhand. The bonus completion points for the -bigadv on top of the normal PPD gives it somewhere in the 65K-75K PPD range which is something a single or dual card PPD wise cannot match.
Thanks man. For while there I thought I was hallucinating. I could have sworn that the CPU's didn't contribute much, but obviously my info was seriously out of date.

It looks like people who do switch over can make a major contribution to the Folding team's ppd. My sincerest wishes of good luck there.
 
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OK, since the ground rules for the Chimp Challenge appear to be improvement over your PPD average(based on the last 4 months), I have a proposition for my WCG brothers. The F@H team can move hardware over to WCG for the next month or so and in return, the WCG Team can help us during the 2 weeks of the Chimp Challenge(starting May 5th). We would need as much participation from the WCG team as possible. What do you say guy's? I have 4 -i7's that will be switched over to WCG within the next 24hrs if you find this arrangement satisfactory.
Doesn't that artificially lower our average 4 month PPD that is used as the baseline for improvement? I might be looking at it wrong, but it seems like that is the equivalent of tanking.

On another note, I will revisit SMP folding on my i7 for the duration of the CC.
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Doesn't that artificially lower our average 4 month PPD that is used as the baseline for improvement? I might be looking at it wrong, but it seems like that is the equivalent of tanking.

On another note, I will revisit SMP folding on my i7 for the duration of the CC.
That sounds like a valid point to me since it doesn't start until May 5th and in the meantime the folding team's ppd avg would be artificially depressed.
 
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Doesn't that artificially lower our average 4 month PPD that is used as the baseline for improvement? I might be looking at it wrong, but it seems like that is the equivalent of tanking.

On another note, I will revisit SMP folding on my i7 for the duration of the CC.
Yes, but in love and war..

Some other team, no name, did something similar for some weeks now.

Your i7 will be most welcome.
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That sounds like a valid point to me since it doesn't start until May 5th and in the meantime the folding team's ppd avg would be artificially depressed.
We are using the averages prior to this month. This method was chosen so that there would be no intentional tampering with PPD.
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We are using the averages prior to this month. This method was chosen so that there would be no intentional tampering with PPD.
Thanks for clarifying that I knew there had to be something I was missing
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Finally got my i7 920 up and crunching again (been waiting on a motherboard).
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OK, since the ground rules for the Chimp Challenge appear to be improvement over your PPD average(based on the last 4 months), I have a proposition for my WCG brothers. The F@H team can move hardware over to WCG for the next month or so and in return, the WCG Team can help us during the 2 weeks of the Chimp Challenge(starting May 5th). We would need as much participation from the WCG team as possible. What do you say guy's? I have 4 -i7's that will be switched over to WCG within the next 24hrs if you find this arrangement satisfactory.
I'll get my GTX 285 ready! I got a 9600 gt i'll try to get going! I got your back! just shoot me a pm on the 4th and i'll crank them up bro!

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Can't keep up with Mindweaver, MetalRacer or mjmike though
It's hard for me to keep up as well..hehehe they are really stepping up there game!
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I'll get my GTX 285 ready! I got a 9600 gt i'll try to get going! I got your back! just shoot me a pm on the 4th and i'll crank them up bro!
You know it's not just GPU you can use for folding right?

Some of you with multiple i7 rigs can convert those to F@H as well. We have a lot tutorial resources in the F@H sub-forum that can help all of you who are interested in switching

Remember it's only for two weeks (also voluntary) and you're back to your normal routine after that.
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You know it's not just GPU you can use for folding right?

Some of you with multiple i7 rigs can convert those to F@H as well. We have a lot tutorial resources in the F@H sub-forum that can help all of you who are interested in switching

Remember it's only for two weeks (also voluntary) and you're back to your normal routine after that.
err yea.. do you not recall that I started out folding for tpu with just cpu's? I remember having around 22 cpu's folding and my GTX 285 folded more than my 22 cpu's folding. Our crunching program uses gpu's as well. I don't expect our folding team to turn over there gpu's to crunch, because it would hurt the folding teams daily out put. But putting my GTX 285 over to folding doesn't hurt our crunching team either.
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I think that we were hoping for a small return favour...anyway my two hexs are now crunching.
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err yea.. do you not recall that I started out folding for tpu with just cpu's? I remember having around 22 cpu's folding and my GTX 285 folded more than my 22 cpu's folding. Our crunching program uses gpu's as well. I don't expect our folding team to turn over there gpu's to crunch, because it would hurt the folding teams daily out put. But putting my GTX 285 over to folding doesn't hurt our crunching team either.
Getting old bro The latter part of my reply was never meant to insult you in any way but rather as an FYI for everyone who is interested.


Hmmnn, I did not know that you could crunch WCG with GPU's I thought you had to do this via another project

One i7 is crunching now, one more later when I get to it (at another location), and the rest by tomorrow.
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Getting old bro The latter part of my reply was never meant to insult you in any way but rather as an FYI for everyone who is interested.


Hmmnn, I did not know that you could crunch WCG with GPU's I thought you had to do this via another project

One i7 is crunching now, one more later when I get to it (at another location), and the rest by tomorrow.
New to me as well...
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WCG doesn't give any work to my GPU... are you sure that you can crunch for WCG on GPUs?
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WCG doesn't run on GPU (not yet at least).

What Mindweaver was saying is that the BOINC software (which runs WCG and many other projects) supports GPU. But he doesn't expect folding GPU's to be switched over to BOINC
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PrimeGrid also supports the GPU for BOINC.
Thanks for clearing up that confusion!
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Getting old bro The latter part of my reply was never meant to insult you in any way but rather as an FYI for everyone who is interested.


Hmmnn, I did not know that you could crunch WCG with GPU's I thought you had to do this via another project

One i7 is crunching now, one more later when I get to it (at another location), and the rest by tomorrow.
Ah i wasn't insulted bro.. I was just saying brotha.. KieX said it best. He got what i was saying. I was just saying helping is great, but i didn't want to take away from either of our teams. I don't know but how many PPD do you get with the i7 860 folding?
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I don't know but how many PPD do you get with the i7 860 folding?
If you do -bigadv between 60-70K
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