upgrade itch plz HALP!

bbmarley · Apr 14, 2011, 05:38 AM

with waiting for bulldozer i dunno what to do for now, i will be ordering today so i can play with on the weekend, here are the 2 options im looking at
just for gaming really.

Add another 6950 for crossfire + OCZ vertex ssd
or
Grab a 2500k + p67

edit found how to set pole

hat · Apr 14, 2011, 06:05 AM

I have a strong dislike for both SLI and xfire, so I can't recommend either of those. The SB platform is great, but I really can't recommend that over what you have now either.

I'd get away from the Creative card and pick up an Asus Xonar DX or something.

Goodman · Apr 14, 2011, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbmarley

with waiting for bulldozer i dunno what to do for now, i will be ordering today so i can play with on the weekend, here are the 2 options im looking at
just for gaming really.

Add another 6950 for crossfire + OCZ vertex ssd
or
Grab a 2500k + p67

edit found how to set pole

What's the rush?

Your PC is good enough to play games or what ever , save your money (you'll have more) & wait for Bulldozer just few months away (June or July) & than make a decision but right now it would be a bad move to change socket IMO

bbmarley · Apr 14, 2011, 09:34 AM

guess il wait some

Jack Doph · Apr 14, 2011, 09:47 AM

If you're truly running 3 monitors in eyefinity, I'd say grab the 2nd 6950 now, and look for further upgrades later on (as Goodman suggested - wait for BD)

Wyverex · Apr 14, 2011, 10:00 AM

With 2-3 months left before Bulldozer arrives and with such a powerful system already... do wait or invest in stuff that'll work with any platform.

For example:

A really good and/or big SSD
Periphery? A mechanical keyboard, or some great mouse, or good cans?
Or as Hat said - a better sound card?

I really wouldn't be switching platforms just yet. Yeah, I know that itch is an itch, but scratch it smartly

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 11:17 AM

I'm just wondering why people are hating so much on the X-Fi cards?
I know I had issues a DECADE ago, but products, support and drivers since then, have been nothing but exemplary for me :/

BarbaricSoul · Apr 15, 2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Doph

I'm just wondering why people are hating so much on the X-Fi cards?
I know I had issues a DECADE ago, but products, support and drivers since then, have been nothing but exemplary for me :/

Because of the crap Creative has pulled in the past, I'll never consider buying anything from them.

ivicagmc · Apr 15, 2011, 11:26 AM

How about some nice SSD??? It would speed things up...

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 11:27 AM

I've had crap pull on me by..
Well, TBH, EVERY manufacturer, without exception. Should I go with that, then I wouldn't be using a PC, or a console, or anything electronic in any way.
I draw the line with S**y, because they have continually screwed me and my customers over, but I'm happy to give virtually anyone a few chances.
That said, I understand any frustration full-well

bbmarley · Apr 15, 2011, 12:02 PM

the only problem i have now with my Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series is i chucked out the grey cable in a move thinking was ide cable i had no use for when packing,so now cant use front panel and the name of the card is HUGE.

oh after reading comments yesterday i changed mind and ordered a new case was holding off of till i do a bulldozer build, Fractal Design Define XL and some Edifier RT1600.

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bbmarley

Fractal Design Define XL and some Edifier RT1600.

Nice

May I ask why the FD XL?

robal · Apr 15, 2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bbmarley

i dunno what to do for now

How about a glass of water instead ?
You'll save some money

Cheers,

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robal

How about a glass of water instead ?
You'll save some money

Cheers,

XD
Smart arse

bbmarley · Apr 15, 2011, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Doph

Nice

May I ask why the FD XL?

i like the looks and features , it was either that or 600t white and waiting game sucks, then there is the recent price drop of the define xl i just noticed so couldnt resist.

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 12:36 PM

Oooh.. I like the 600T as well actually

But.. if the price is right, and you want it now, then fair enough mate

bbmarley · Apr 15, 2011, 12:39 PM

yup they use to be the same price range but i guess with the launch of nzxt h2 the price droped of the define xl by a whole bunch

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 12:40 PM

Sweet.
I feel compelled to check out the prices on this myself now

random · Apr 15, 2011, 01:22 PM

If you really wanna play with something adding another 6950 and an SSD is the way to go. Mechanical HDDs are the biggest bottlenecks in any system your jaw will drop from the speed difference and you'll be increasing your gaming experience with an added GPU... whereas upgrading to a new platform will only provide you with the latest tech to give you headroom for future parts.

BarbaricSoul · Apr 15, 2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomflip

If you really wanna play with something adding another 6950 and an SSD is the way to go. Mechanical HDDs are the biggest bottlenecks in any system your jaw will drop from the speed difference

He has a point, I don't even see the Windows welcome screen when I boot up my computer. A SSD will give the most noticable performance boost.

hat · Apr 15, 2011, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Doph

I'm just wondering why people are hating so much on the X-Fi cards?
I know I had issues a DECADE ago, but products, support and drivers since then, have been nothing but exemplary for me :/

I'd like to avoid entertaining this any further than this post, but to answer your question, it's because they still haven't fixed the audiodg memory leak issue. Oh wait, they have, as long as you go to your sound properties and disable sound blaster enhancements... you know, all those cool features you expected to be able to use with your $150+ sound card. The issue is brought on when you use features like CMSS, which expands 2.0 audio to your other speakers... quad, 5.1, 7.1, whatever.

Jack Doph · Apr 15, 2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

I'd like to avoid entertaining this any further than this post, but to answer your question, it's because they still haven't fixed the audiodg memory leak issue. Oh wait, they have, as long as you go to your sound properties and disable sound blaster enhancements... you know, all those cool features you expected to be able to use with your $150+ sound card. The issue is brought on when you use features like CMSS, which expands 2.0 audio to your other speakers... quad, 5.1, 7.1, whatever.

Odd.. perhaps this needs to be taken somewhere else then, because I remember vaguely how this subject was broached a week or so back, and this isn't an issue for me at all. In fact, my AudioDG, IF it's called on, *never* exceeds 14mb - EVER, no matter what.
So.. either I've been lucky for the last 6 years, or.. actually, I can't think of an 'or' XD
Music is my life, and I use my X-Fi Elite Pro for music creation (amongst other things) and have to make sure all of this stuff is working right.
That said.. there will always be hiccups along the way for some (or many, depending on the issue).
I've just not experienced those at all - be it under XP or W7

scaminatrix · Apr 15, 2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyverex

I really wouldn't be switching platforms just yet. Yeah, I know that itch is an itch, but scratch it smartly

Sigworthy! See?

I vote for just buying an SSD. If you still feel an itch after a couple of weeks, you could go with another 6950 but I think you'll be happy enough just with the performance boost from an SSD.

15th Warlock · Apr 17, 2011, 07:13 AM

Grab a second card and the SSD, then, in the future you can move those parts to a SB, IB or Buldozer build once the dust has settled and a clear winner emerges

HammerON · Apr 17, 2011, 07:27 AM

I would upgrade to a 2600K and P67 motherboard if I was you.

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Apr 14, 2011, 05:38 AM	#1
bbmarley Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 369 (0.21/day) Thanks: 56 Thanked 71 Times in 57 Posts System Specs	upgrade itch plz HALP! with waiting for bulldozer i dunno what to do for now, i will be ordering today so i can play with on the weekend, here are the 2 options im looking at just for gaming really. Add another 6950 for crossfire + OCZ vertex ssd or Grab a 2500k + p67 edit found how to set pole

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Apr 14, 2011, 09:34 AM	#4
bbmarley Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 369 (0.21/day) Thanks: 56 Thanked 71 Times in 57 Posts System Specs	guess il wait some

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Wyverex Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 251 (0.19/day) Thanks: 53 Thanked 83 Times in 65 Posts System Specs	With 2-3 months left before Bulldozer arrives and with such a powerful system already... do wait or invest in stuff that'll work with any platform. For example: A really good and/or big SSD Periphery? A mechanical keyboard, or some great mouse, or good cans? Or as Hat said - a better sound card? I really wouldn't be switching platforms just yet. Yeah, I know that itch is an itch, but scratch it smartly Last edited by Wyverex; Apr 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM.

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Jack Doph Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Upright down-under (Brisbane, Australia) Posts: 468 (0.55/day) Thanks: 835 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts System Specs	I'm just wondering why people are hating so much on the X-Fi cards? I know I had issues a DECADE ago, but products, support and drivers since then, have been nothing but exemplary for me :/

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Apr 15, 2011, 11:27 AM	#10
Jack Doph Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Upright down-under (Brisbane, Australia) Posts: 468 (0.55/day) Thanks: 835 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts System Specs	I've had crap pull on me by.. Well, TBH, EVERY manufacturer, without exception. Should I go with that, then I wouldn't be using a PC, or a console, or anything electronic in any way. I draw the line with S**y, because they have continually screwed me and my customers over, but I'm happy to give virtually anyone a few chances. That said, I understand any frustration full-well

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bbmarley Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 369 (0.21/day) Thanks: 56 Thanked 71 Times in 57 Posts System Specs	the only problem i have now with my Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series is i chucked out the grey cable in a move thinking was ide cable i had no use for when packing,so now cant use front panel and the name of the card is HUGE. oh after reading comments yesterday i changed mind and ordered a new case was holding off of till i do a bulldozer build, Fractal Design Define XL and some Edifier RT1600.

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Jack Doph Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Upright down-under (Brisbane, Australia) Posts: 468 (0.55/day) Thanks: 835 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts System Specs	Oooh.. I like the 600T as well actually But.. if the price is right, and you want it now, then fair enough mate

Apr 15, 2011, 12:39 PM	#17
bbmarley Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 369 (0.21/day) Thanks: 56 Thanked 71 Times in 57 Posts System Specs	yup they use to be the same price range but i guess with the launch of nzxt h2 the price droped of the define xl by a whole bunch

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Jack Doph Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Upright down-under (Brisbane, Australia) Posts: 468 (0.55/day) Thanks: 835 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts System Specs	Sweet. I feel compelled to check out the prices on this myself now

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