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Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MAGMADIVER

my CPU doesnt like the SMP part of V7, it causes too many crashes. But my overclock is likely the culprit. Also, I dont think you get enough points to make the SMP worthwhile comparatively to the GPU.

F@H make a damn good OC tester if it survives an SMP2 WU it'll likely survive anything else you throw at it with ease so I'd say back the OC off a wee bit and try it again

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 05:15 AM

only the first 10 WU's are low pointers if you've got an Passkey use it and after the first 10 WU's you'll get bonus points for early completion

MAGMADIVER · Apr 21, 2011, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

How much load on the CPU are you seeing from the GPU clients?

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Originally Posted by Athlonite

F@H make a damn good OC tester if it survives an SMP2 WU it'll likely survive anything else you throw at it with ease so I'd say back the OC off a wee bit and try it again...only the first 10 WU's are low pointers if you've got an Passkey use it and after the first 10 WU's you'll get bonus points for early completion

@ thebluebumblebee....100% when I have it use all 4 cores. it drops to 45% when I drop to two. However, as I said I dont see a point to use the SMP when you get so few points comparatively to the GPU.

@Athlonite...I suppose I could do that. However, what kind of PPD is a PhIIX4 of my calibre really going to provide? When I am getting 36K PPD with my GPU, is SMP really worth it? I am not deriding SMP I am just wondering. What is the Passkey for? I thought that was a anti-tampering tool.

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 05:28 AM

the Passkey is an anti tamper tool but it also qualifies you for bonus point eligibility to gain Bonus points for fast WU completion

smp for me on my PIIx4 940 @ 3.41GHz gains me 1672 points along with several GPU WU's of 1835 a piece each

MAGMADIVER · Apr 21, 2011, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athlonite

the Passkey is an anti tamper tool but it also qualifies you for bonus point eligibility to gain Bonus points for fast WU completion

smp for me on my PIIx4 940 @ 3.41GHz gains me 1672 points along with several GPU WU's of 1835 a piece each

Ok, how do I go about getting said passkey?

thebluebumblebee · Apr 21, 2011, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MAGMADIVER

@ thebluebumblebee....100% when I have it use all 4 cores. it drops to 45% when I drop to two. However, as I said I dont see a point to use the SMP when you get so few points comparatively to the GPU.

What I'm asking is how much load on the cpu are you seeing from only the GPU clients. The new GPU client for ATI is supposed to put a big load on the CPU. That could hurt your SMP PPD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAGMADIVER

@Athlonite...I suppose I could do that. However, what kind of PPD is a PhIIX4 of my calibre really going to provide? When I am getting 36K PPD with my GPU, is SMP really worth it? I am not deriding SMP I am just wondering. What is the Passkey for? I thought that was a anti-tampering tool.

Passkey info. http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

Switch over and good things will happen.

You're not getting 36K PPD on your GPU's

MAGMADIVER · Apr 21, 2011, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

What I'm asking is how much load on the cpu are you seeing from only the GPU clients. The new GPU client for ATI is supposed to put a big load on the CPU. That could hurt your SMP PPD.

Passkey info. http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey

You're not getting 36K PPD on your GPU's

Thank you for clarifying that.

and my gpu's bring all the boys to the yard.

Oh and each gpu core_16 is using 25% CPU time.

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 05:43 AM

On it's own yes it does use quite a bit of CPU time mine use 25% each when no SMP is running but start up SMP and number falls to between 5 and 10 %

MAGMADIVER · Apr 21, 2011, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

Switch over and good things will happen

@thebluebumblebee & hertz9753, I can tell you now that the support and community here is much better than Tom's...shame really because the community here is what drew me away from THG.

thebluebumblebee · Apr 21, 2011, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Athlonite

On it's own yes it does use quite a bit of CPU time mine use 25% each when no SMP is running but start up SMP and number falls to between 5 and 10 %

So what suffers, the GPU PPD or the SMP PPD? Is it better to give SMP one less core?

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

You're not getting 36K PPD on your GPU's

copy paste from EOC for magmadiver 04.20.11 38,906 47

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

So what suffers, the GPU PPD or the SMP PPD? Is it better to give SMP one less core?

wee bit of both but at the end of the day it works out to more points all up

each HD5770 no SMP gets between 6600 to 7000ppd, with smp each GPU makes 6200 to 6500ppd

and not a heck of alot different for the SMP with or without GPU's running for me at anyrate maybe a minute or so TPF increase when running GPU's

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 06:29 AM

I only have one problem with the new V7 and core_16 and that is being they're OpenCL/MM wu's so why are they using CPU time at all other programs I have that use Ocl don't use any at all or if they do then it's only around 1~2% at most

hat · Apr 21, 2011, 07:25 AM

Any ideas on how to cool down this 8800GT of mine? I removed the shroud, took the fan off and stuffed one of these pci slot fans directly under it, but it actually raised the temp by a few degrees over the stock solution... right now running 83c loaded... too much for my tastes.

Damn, it slow-roasted its way up to 89c. I don't feel safe running this thing at that temp...

Athlonite · Apr 21, 2011, 09:16 AM

other than put it back the way is was and look round for an third party cooler

hat · Apr 21, 2011, 09:43 AM

It wasn't exactly acceptable before either... I was kind of hoping someone had a dual slot cooler laying around that could fit it.

johnspack · Apr 21, 2011, 10:52 AM

Well, I'm trying for ppd in one hour for a personal best. I'd like to know if I could theoretically break 45k ppd.....Don't break out the 285s very often, but I'm curious.

Chicken Patty · Apr 21, 2011, 02:22 PM

Hat, can you get like a house fan to blow onto the PC? Maybe that'll help...

KieX · Apr 21, 2011, 08:16 PM

Got myself a GTX470 in a trade. I stopped folding because of electricity, but since I'll be housing this one in my work computer I'll be able to have it running 24/7. 11K is nowhere near my old 40K but rather that than nothing.

Just waiting for the last WCG WU's to finish then I'll start a -bigadv test run this weekend with 2 Sandybridges

Anyone else buzzing with a feeling we could win this CC?

hat · Apr 21, 2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

Hat, can you get like a house fan to blow onto the PC? Maybe that'll help...

Why didn't I think of that? Loads around 75c now, that's acceptable.

4x4n · Apr 22, 2011, 01:07 AM

Hey hat, send me your addy and I'll send you an accelero s1 cooler for that card.

hat · Apr 22, 2011, 01:43 AM

Thanks for the offer, but it seems that cooler only cools the GPU... I'd have to way to cool the memory or power circuitry then.

4x4n · Apr 22, 2011, 02:05 AM

Zip tie a 120mm fan to it and that is all you need. I have a 8800gt with nothing on the mems or power circuit. Haven't folded with it for a while, but it has folded many wu's. Temps were always 60 or below for everything. I had 4 or 5 cards running this way, never a problem with them.

hat · Apr 22, 2011, 04:22 AM

Well, I suppose I may as well give it a shot.

thebluebumblebee · Apr 22, 2011, 03:09 PM

Since the beginning of March, 3 of my 4 G92's have had NOTHING but the 494's. Oddly, my 256MB 8800GT has done almost anything else during that time. (I'm wondering if it has to do with it only having 256MB VRAM?) Imagine my surprise and delight when I saw this today:

That's good for almost 2000 PPD more!

System Name:	Xtreme PC's AMDx4
Processor:	AMD Phenom II x4 965BE @ 3.41GHz NB/HT @ 2.4GHz
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	ThermoLab Baram 1x 120mm SS Air Penartrator 1x SS generic case fan
Memory:	8GB Corsair Vengence LP 1600MHz 9-9-9-24CR1
Video Card:	Sapphire Radeon HD7850 2GB 920/1250MHz
Hard Disk:	2x Samsung HD501IJ Raid0 boot / 1x Samsung HD501IJ + 1x WD 250GB storage
Optical Drive:	1xSATA Pioneer DVR212S 18x
CRT/LCD Model:	Alienware OptX AW2210 22" LCD 1920x1080p
Case:	SilverStone Raven RV02B-W + 3x SS AP181
Sound Card:	Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme PCIe + Pioneer VSX-D457 amp
PSU:	SilverStone ST75F-P Modular 750W
Software:	Windows 7 X64 RTM
Benchmarks:	it sucks much

Apr 21, 2011, 05:15 AM	#13902
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.15/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	only the first 10 WU's are low pointers if you've got an Passkey use it and after the first 10 WU's you'll get bonus points for early completion __________________

System Name:	Xtreme PC's AMDx4
Processor:	AMD Phenom II x4 965BE @ 3.41GHz NB/HT @ 2.4GHz
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	ThermoLab Baram 1x 120mm SS Air Penartrator 1x SS generic case fan
Memory:	8GB Corsair Vengence LP 1600MHz 9-9-9-24CR1
Video Card:	Sapphire Radeon HD7850 2GB 920/1250MHz
Hard Disk:	2x Samsung HD501IJ Raid0 boot / 1x Samsung HD501IJ + 1x WD 250GB storage
Optical Drive:	1xSATA Pioneer DVR212S 18x
CRT/LCD Model:	Alienware OptX AW2210 22" LCD 1920x1080p
Case:	SilverStone Raven RV02B-W + 3x SS AP181
Sound Card:	Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme PCIe + Pioneer VSX-D457 amp
PSU:	SilverStone ST75F-P Modular 750W
Software:	Windows 7 X64 RTM
Benchmarks:	it sucks much

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Processor:	Phenom II 965 @4GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	Zerotherm Nirvana NV120
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Video Card:	XFX Radeon 5970
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Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit)

Apr 21, 2011, 05:28 AM	#13904
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.15/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	the Passkey is an anti tamper tool but it also qualifies you for bonus point eligibility to gain Bonus points for fast WU completion smp for me on my PIIx4 940 @ 3.41GHz gains me 1672 points along with several GPU WU's of 1835 a piece each __________________

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Memory:	2GB DDR-400/8GB Corsair DDR3 1600
Video Card:	RADEON 9800 PRO AGP/2x GB GTX 560 Ti
Hard Disk:	Seagate 160GB IDE/120GB Samsung 830 & Seagate 2TB
Optical Drive:	LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L/Pioneer DVR-219LBK
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster B1940/Asus 24' LED
Case:	Ever Case E4252WSF-F/Antec P280 It's huge!
Sound Card:	SB Audigy 2 ZS/on board
PSU:	Corsair VX550/SeaSonic S12II 620
Software:	XP MCE SP3/Win 7 Home Premiun 64 Bit
Benchmarks:	Are you kidding?/3DMark11 basic P8681

Apr 21, 2011, 05:43 AM	#13908
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.15/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	On it's own yes it does use quite a bit of CPU time mine use 25% each when no SMP is running but start up SMP and number falls to between 5 and 10 % __________________

Apr 21, 2011, 06:29 AM	#13913
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.15/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	I only have one problem with the new V7 and core_16 and that is being they're OpenCL/MM wu's so why are they using CPU time at all other programs I have that use Ocl don't use any at all or if they do then it's only around 1~2% at most __________________

Apr 21, 2011, 07:25 AM	#13914
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	Any ideas on how to cool down this 8800GT of mine? I removed the shroud, took the fan off and stuffed one of these pci slot fans directly under it, but it actually raised the temp by a few degrees over the stock solution... right now running 83c loaded... too much for my tastes. Damn, it slow-roasted its way up to 89c. I don't feel safe running this thing at that temp... __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok Last edited by hat; Apr 21, 2011 at 07:36 AM.

System Name:	Starlifter // Dragonfly
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Motherboard:	Asus Rampage III // Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3
Cooling:	(lapped) Corsair H70 // (lapped) TT Big Typhoon
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Benchmarks:	zunn zunnzunn zunn zunn

Apr 21, 2011, 09:16 AM	#13915
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.15/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	other than put it back the way is was and look round for an third party cooler __________________

Apr 21, 2011, 09:43 AM	#13916
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	It wasn't exactly acceptable before either... I was kind of hoping someone had a dual slot cooler laying around that could fit it. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Apr 21, 2011, 10:52 AM	#13917
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Well, I'm trying for ppd in one hour for a personal best. I'd like to know if I could theoretically break 45k ppd.....Don't break out the 285s very often, but I'm curious. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Benchmarks:	Time to upgrade to 680s....

Apr 21, 2011, 02:22 PM	#13918
Chicken Patty WCG Team Captain Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 23,888 (11.92/day) Thanks: 15,149 Thanked 12,311 Times in 7,776 Posts System Specs	Hat, can you get like a house fan to blow onto the PC? Maybe that'll help... __________________ Help save lives, CRUNCH and/or FOLD for Team TPU and make a difference! Crunching with a 2600K, i7-950, FX-8120, Radeon 6850 (2 WU's), Radeon 7770 (4 WU's) *"AlienIsGOD - Awe!!! CP has grown from a small chicken nugget to the IMMENSE PATTY and WCG Team leader he is today"*

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Apr 21, 2011, 08:16 PM	#13919
KieX Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: A Coruña, Spain Posts: 2,050 (1.64/day) Thanks: 6,950 Thanked 2,643 Times in 1,136 Posts System Specs	Got myself a GTX470 in a trade. I stopped folding because of electricity, but since I'll be housing this one in my work computer I'll be able to have it running 24/7. 11K is nowhere near my old 40K but rather that than nothing. Just waiting for the last WCG WU's to finish then I'll start a -bigadv test run this weekend with 2 Sandybridges Anyone else buzzing with a feeling we could win this CC? __________________

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Apr 22, 2011, 01:07 AM	#13921
4x4n Xtreme Refugee Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 336 (0.22/day) Thanks: 69 Thanked 265 Times in 130 Posts System Specs	Hey hat, send me your addy and I'll send you an accelero s1 cooler for that card. __________________ See if that new overclock is really stable and give to a worthy cause at the same time. Join the TPU WCG team here

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Case:	Antec P160/Cooler Master Storm Sniper
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Apr 22, 2011, 01:43 AM	#13922
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	Thanks for the offer, but it seems that cooler only cools the GPU... I'd have to way to cool the memory or power circuitry then. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Apr 22, 2011, 02:05 AM	#13923
4x4n Xtreme Refugee Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 336 (0.22/day) Thanks: 69 Thanked 265 Times in 130 Posts System Specs	Zip tie a 120mm fan to it and that is all you need. I have a 8800gt with nothing on the mems or power circuit. Haven't folded with it for a while, but it has folded many wu's. Temps were always 60 or below for everything. I had 4 or 5 cards running this way, never a problem with them. __________________ See if that new overclock is really stable and give to a worthy cause at the same time. Join the TPU WCG team here

Apr 22, 2011, 04:22 AM	#13924
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	Well, I suppose I may as well give it a shot. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Apr 22, 2011, 03:09 PM	#13925
thebluebumblebee Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 2,141 (1.20/day) Thanks: 1,558 Thanked 880 Times in 627 Posts System Specs	Since the beginning of March, 3 of my 4 G92's have had NOTHING but the 494's. Oddly, my 256MB 8800GT has done almost anything else during that time. (I'm wondering if it has to do with it only having 256MB VRAM?) Imagine my surprise and delight when I saw this today: That's good for almost 2000 PPD more!

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