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Old May 8, 2011, 10:21 AM   #1
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Fractal Design Arc Midi Tower

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I have my pc under my desk, so the BACK fan controller is waste of space to me.
Wouldn't it be a much better idea, to have a small button to the right of the front/top usb3 socket that adjusted the fan speeds.
And I can't even see it costing extra.
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Old May 18, 2011, 10:39 PM   #3
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I have my pc under my desk, so the BACK fan controller is waste of space to me.
Wouldn't it be a much better idea, to have a small button to the right of the front/top usb3 socket that adjusted the fan speeds.
And I can't even see it costing extra.
Valid point, never occurred to me. But the controller is large enough so that you can feel for it and set the speed without having to see the controller. Besides, how often would you change the speed on the fans? 99% of the people would just leave it on the lowest setting.

Nonetheless, it is good th have the option anyways.
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good review clean cut case....some of your image code is messed up on the last page btw
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Excellent review, as always. I really like that you tried it with both a regular heatsink and with a radiator.

I think I really like this case, but I have to agree with you about it being priced in a very competitive segment. There are just so many great cases it has to compete with and there isn't much to really set it apart from the pack. With the amount of cases at similar prices offering similar features, it all comes down to aesthetics and personal preference over minor details I think.
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I have my pc under my desk, so the BACK fan controller is waste of space to me.
Wouldn't it be a much better idea, to have a small button to the right of the front/top usb3 socket that adjusted the fan speeds.
And I can't even see it costing extra.
Really wouldn't be hard to just drill a hole for the knob wherever you want it and then mount the controller there. Of course, it costs enough that I understand a lot of people will think "I shouldn't have to mod it." Personally, I enjoy doing little mods like that (simple, gives it a personal touch, and hard to screw up).
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good review clean cut case....some of your image code is messed up on the last page btw
I noticed that as well.
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Good case, i like it, but shame the PSU is at the bottom =/
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Good case, i like it, but shame the PSU is at the bottom =/
Wow, you must be the one person in the world that doesn't like it at the bottom... oh well...
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Besides, how often would you change the speed on the fans? 99% of the people would just leave it on the lowest setting.
I disagree, if you had switch at the front (easy access), I think 99% would speed up their fans every time when in gaming mode, & slow them back down when surfing the net.

But I kind of agree that because its stuck at the back (awkward to get at) 99% will probably leave it on low setting.

Don't get me wrong, I really like this case but at the end of the day, is there really any excuse for putting fan controllers on the back of their cases?
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Wow, you must be the one person in the world that doesn't like it at the bottom... oh well...
I used to hate bottom-mounted power-supplies, but now I'm somewhat indifferent. BTW, your post sounds kinky when taken out of context
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I disagree, if you had switch at the front (easy access), I think 99% would speed up their fans every time when in gaming mode, & slow them back down when surfing the net.

But I kind of agree that because its stuck at the back (awkward to get at) 99% will probably leave it on low setting.

Don't get me wrong, I really like this case but at the end of the day, is there really any excuse for putting fan controllers on the back of their cases?
I'm pretty sure most people that really care about fan control will use a bay-mounted fan controller or just connect the fans to the motherboard and use software like SpeedFan.
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I'm pretty sure most people that really care about fan control will use a bay-mounted fan controller
So what your saying is I have to go out & buy a new fan controller, whilst throwing the one I just paid for in the bin?



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or just connect the fans to the motherboard and use software like SpeedFan.
What's easiest,
1. Flick a switch on the top of your case
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2. Have to open up SpeedFan program, alter fan settings, save & close program.

I know which one I would rather do.
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Wow, you must be the one person in the world that doesn't like it at the bottom... oh well...
Naaa we had a thread here to see what people liked more, and the top still won

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Shame that the front panel is plastic (looks like anodised aluminium in the pictures) otherwise nice looking for its size.

I don't really understand why Fractal insist on having fans on the side panel but i guess it is good for options, if they do insist on adding side fans they should have filters at least.
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What's easiest,
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fans that automagically are controlled to be as quiet as possible while keeping the system stable
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Shame that the front panel is plastic (looks like anodised aluminium in the pictures) otherwise nice looking for its size.

I don't really understand why Fractal insist on having fans on the side panel but i guess it is good for options, if they do insist on adding side fans they should have filters at least.
There are actually no fans in the side panel - just the option. I installed the one which was in the ceiling in the side, since the ceiling was filled by the radiator.

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Thanks for reviewing this case! Am going to get one noce jap has em ^^
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So what your saying is I have to go out & buy a new fan controller, whilst throwing the one I just paid for in the bin?
No, I'm saying that a lot of people would be using some sort of option that supports controlling multiple fans individually. And no, you are not paying extra for that little controller, it's just some extra gimmick they tacked on.
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2. Have to open up SpeedFan program, alter fan settings, save & close program.

I know which one I would rather do.
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I know which one I would rather do.
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Beat me to it
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3. Set automatic fan control in SpeedFan so it speeds or slows your fans according to temperature thresholds that you set so you never have to worry about it.
Admittedly this would seem the best idea (makes me wonder why then, so many enthusiast opt for fan controllers?)

And the fact you say "you are not paying extra for that little controller", I would say is questionable?

But I'm not here to argue, so I'll leave the people to decide the answer of my original post...

Were do you prefer your fan controller, on the front of the case or on the back?

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I'm getting fed up with manufacturers putting only one USB 3.0 port on the front panel. In many cases it is acceptable because most cases on the market today don't utilize a USB3 header, but seeing as this one DOES, it boggles the mind to see only ONE port.

Are there any cases BESIDES the Cooler Master Enforcer that offer 2 ports on a header?
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Shame that the front panel is plastic (looks like anodised aluminium in the pictures) otherwise nice looking for its size.
Amen, I was loving it until plastic... and for $120 USD please. The Gigabyte Poseidon had a super nice aluminum front bezel years ago that had much the same façade.
I just think faux plastic leaves me disillusioned for what appears to be a classy-chassis.

Would be keen on it, if it could be had for say $75 USD… delivered to my door.
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Question!

Can you place a fan between the top panel cover and the top panel itself?
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It seem to be almost identical to the core 3000 - more budget case, except cheaper outer design and rubber on cable management holes...
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Great review. I love Fractals streamlined design and haven't really seen a case that I dislike. The fact that this midtower handily accomodates (This is spelled right stupid FF4) is a definite plus. Bad location for a fan controller but appreciated nonetheless.
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Great review. I love Fractals streamlined design and haven't really seen a case that I dislike. The fact that this midtower handily accomodates (This is spelled right stupid FF4) is a definite plus. Bad location for a fan controller but appreciated nonetheless.
No, there are definitely two "m"s in "accommodates"
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