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Old May 30, 2011, 10:22 PM   #6451
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I think im the only person who has a good postal service with Royal Mail. I live 15 mins from the depot too so if anything is returned i can just go collect it myself.

I saw the Panorama program on the Royal Mail in London, it snowed and some of the post workers just wouldn't go up certain streets or just clocked off early. I think people that work for royal mail don't really give a shit because no one is inspecting the places catching out the buggers.
I live 5mins walk away from the nearest depo.

secondly before you criticize some of our postmen. out on the road. theres only ourselves. and we have to look after #1. If your driveway or street is deemed too slippery then its a health and safety problem and we simply wont deliver your mail. but we WILL come back and try the next day, and if conditions dont improve then we will either get someone to call you to come collect your mail or have someone drop off message asking you to come and collect it.

Walking around with a 25kg bag of mail strapped to your shoulder isnt exactly the easiest or safest way to get around, especially if the terrain is icy or very wet.

as for the ones that clock off early....I know all about that. I dont do that myself but i know people that do
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Companies like BT pay to get their mail delivered yet these delivery companies pay Royal Mail to use there postal network in a sense paying Royal Mail to deliver for them. So basically doing hardly anything and making a profit, sneaky isnt it?

Couriers are different but i wouldn't say they where much better than Royal Mail; ShittyLink and The Delivery Network (HDNL) are terrible and UPS has extortionate rates, Parcel Force are part of the Royal Mail group.

I was told that when the Dutch Post Serivce was privatised it wasn't as good as before.

EDIT: That "UseNow" was going around bumping FS threads just to get his post count up to be able to sell on the B/S/T sub forum. Hes got a ton of threads too, i mean cant he just have one WTB thread?
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Old May 31, 2011, 02:55 AM   #6455
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well thats one way to exploit the system xD
The thing i dont get is why the government doesn't just say no and refuse to deliver post like that for other couriers? Obviously they cant force businesses to choose the Royal Mail. It increases loads on the mail system and they don't get the extra money to cover or improve the infrastructure.

I know how dangerous the roads can be and i do appreciate the work my local posties do, as i said i personally get brilliant Royal Mail service but i was just explaining what the Panorama program was like. The undercover guy he did rounds and knew the routes, it was more a case of people saying the streets where bad but where fine just to get of doing the work.

I can see why postal workers are bit miffed because they get increased loads every year yet the services are cut and cut. I don't understand the government mentality that less people use the mail service each year yet the actual loads increase!
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Well you know i think arm forces and delivery man and woman should be getting good money,and then theres crappy shows like Simon cowell and so called football(i like football still btw) where players get paid 100k a week or something for sitting on bench or playing on the field.
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The thing i dont get is why the government doesn't just say no and refuse to deliver post like that for other couriers? Obviously they cant force businesses to choose the Royal Mail. It increases loads on the mail system and they don't get the extra money to cover or improve the infrastructure.

I know how dangerous the roads can be and i do appreciate the work my local posties do, as i said i personally get brilliant Royal Mail service but i was just explaining what the Panorama program was like. The undercover guy he did rounds and knew the routes, it was more a case of people saying the streets where bad but where fine just to get of doing the work.

I can see why postal workers are bit miffed because they get increased loads every year yet the services are cut and cut. I don't understand the government mentality that less people use the mail service each year yet the actual loads increase!
I was reffering to UseNow lol but yeah. point taken Royal Mail are taking some heavy cost cutting. at least 1 or 2 of their MAJOR big sorting offices will be shut in the next 2 years. which could mean that a possible 600+ workers may lose their jobs.

those that can, have already transferred out to different sorting offices. but those that cant or dont want to. i.e the line managers because they wont get to keep their position as line manager if they go work at another office have already resigned and left or just sitting there waiting for the ship to sink.

However statistics will always say 'Increased Traffic' because thats what people wanna hear. but traffic has been dropping for decades. and at this rate the entire workforce in the sorting office will be primarily made up of machines instead of being sorted by hand. right now theres more being sorted by hand then there is by the machines but they will cut 50 staff if it means they can bring a machine in. all that machine needs is 1 operator and 1 guy to tip the mail onto the belt to be sorted by the machine and its full speed ahead.


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Well you know i think arm forces and delivery man and woman should be getting good money,and then theres crappy shows like Simon cowell and so called football(i like football still btw) where players get paid 100k a week or something for sitting on bench or playing on the field.
its sickening. some people earn upto 2-20 times as much as the people who put their lives on the line for us every day. Im not a huge football fan at all but i do watch the odd Tottenham game with my dad now n again.

Its not so much about football being a sport but more about how many millions they can buy or trade players for. they get paid to kick a ball around. i think the lowest paid salary is around 12k in the army, im not sure about any extra bonus's they may get but 12k a year and your dodging bullets and shrapnel from IEDs while some people get paid 300k a month just to sit on a bench and kick a ball around for 40 or 90mins.

its disgusting.

Im far from being a patriot. but i do think that the british armed forces get a raw deal and its the goverments fault as they keep the armed forces at the opposite end of the long stick to avoid responsibility.
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i think they see the armed forces as a liability more than an asset, especially after all those wars the government got them unnecessarily involved in
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the armed forces should form a union and go on strike lol
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they will fucking take over the government/whole country if they go rioting!
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A subject close to my heart, but sadly no Unions, you forgo that entitlement in your Terms & Conditions of service.
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Armed forces are fine, we never know when the Russians will be flying their wares around UK, but that said, politicians should be relieved of their duties of leading the armed forces. There is no way you can have a fighting machine shackled by stupidity.
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A subject close to my heart, but sadly no Unions, you forgo that entitlement in your Terms & Conditions of service.
I was just thinking about that myself Tatty, Its sad they simply just have to do what they are told to do and if the goverment decides to feed them with hay every morning then theres not a lot they can do or say about it unless they resign or do something to force the MoD's hand into giving them a discharge,

the armed forces protect us - the civilians. but who protects the armed forces?
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I was just thinking about that myself Tatty, Its sad they simply just have to do what they are told to do and if the goverment decides to feed them with hay every morning then theres not a lot they can do or say about it unless they resign or do something to force the MoD's hand into giving them a discharge,

the armed forces protect us - the civilians. but who protects the armed forces?
Noone, if they did we would not have lost several hundred in the Falklands war or several Million between the 2 World wars, invariably, loss of life results from poor decisions at the Government level, thing is, every government thinks it is tactially more astute than it's Armed Forces therefore decisions are always made based on the strategy of Politicians and never on the tactical outcome, remembering that "loss of life" is acceptable if it is for a political purpose, to an average civilian that would equate to negligent manslaughter at least.
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If they send the armed forces in to do a job, they should hand over full control to the armed forces and not just sideline them when it comes to talking about objectives and what they would like to achieve. loss of life for a political cause is always acceptable by the goverment. but how many soldiers do they have to throw in front of a firing squad before they say that, the task or objective is impossible to achieve, pull everyone back, regroup and think of another plan of attack?

but then its quite easy to talk about all the 'good' you are doing, dressed in a suit while sitting at a desk a million miles away. (bloody pen pushers)
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holy crap those hp mini's are going for like 250-300 on the fleabay, mine has kick ass spec in comparison, it should easily sell for £210ish


Also is it worth me getting the Xonar D1 over the DG, i was thinking of using this card for a while into the future
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holy crap those hp mini's are going for like 250-300 on the fleabay, mine has kick ass spec in comparison, it should easily sell for £210ish


Also is it worth me getting the Xonar D1 over the DG, i was thinking of using this card for a while into the future
their £250 new online and i saw an ex-display one for £200 in my local, its just ebay having messed up prices
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Also is it worth me getting the Xonar D1 over the DG, i was thinking of using this card for a while into the future
If you plan to keep a sound card for a while, its better to go with a Xonar DX (which means i need to source myself a DG)
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Freedom more and more people are sending packages, letters are decreasing because banks have online banking now and spam is pushed through email but i find it hard to believe that loads are not increasing. The Royal Mail is a public service but its badly managed by the government. If it was to be privatised, the biggest threat is the cessation of the universal postal system and potential foreign owners. It needs modernised because its just to costly to run in its current form but it needs the right solution rather than all out privatisation which could disrupt services.

The only place here in Scotland is Erskine and that's a charity run place. The government aren't obligated to do things like that for veterans (non compulsory of sorts).
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Umm.... quite a difference in the value of the boards lol the gigabyte is better...
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