AMD to Claim Share of Tablet Pie with Brazos-T APU Platform

btarunr · Jul 4, 2011, 01:38 PM

Microsoft's leap of faith into the tablet OS market which is dominated by Apple iOS and Google's Android OS, with Windows 8 operating system will be driven by two distinct hardware platforms - x86, led by Intel and its Clover Trail Atom platform, and ARM, and its swarm of client manufacturers such as Samsung, Qualcomm, etc. The third player out to claim its share of the pie is AMD, with its Brazos-T platform. Similar to Intel's Clover Trail, Brazos-T is an x86-based platform, it uses an ultra-low power accelerated processing unit (APU), codenamed "Hondo".

Hondo is a low-wattage, low-footprint APU that packs two x86-64 "Bobcat" architecture cores, an AMD Radeon HD 6250 DirectX 11 compliant graphics core, single-channel DDR3 IMC, and integrated PCI-Express. Like Clover Trail, it is a 2-chip solution, with the other chip being the "Hudson" M2T chipset, which provides an array of display connectivity options, SATA and USB connectivity. The key feature with Hondo APU is its low power consumption of just 2W, and TDP of 4.5W. The chipset is designed to consume just 1W. Both the APU and chipset are built on the 40 nm process. The platform is slated for Q2 2012, just in time for Windows 8 tablets to hit the market.

Source: DonanimHaber

link2009 · Jul 4, 2011, 01:41 PM

This is amazing news, I hope AMD can sell a whole bunch of APUs. The more money they get, the more R&D can take place.

bostonbuddy · Jul 4, 2011, 01:47 PM

When tablets are as powerful as a current $500 desktop I'm in.

Red_Machine · Jul 4, 2011, 01:52 PM

They will be, in about five years time. Then we'll have a Sandybridge-class tablet.

AndreiD · Jul 4, 2011, 01:58 PM

That's one sexy TDP right there, oh AMD, you do know how to turn a guy on!

micropage7 · Jul 4, 2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonbuddy

When tablets are as powerful as a current $500 desktop I'm in.

when tablets goes 200$ im gonna in. but tablets aint gonna as powerful as desktop coz it has different market.
tablets would in the same level as netbook so dont expect so much on that

micropage7 · Jul 4, 2011, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

They will be, in about five years time. Then we'll have a Sandybridge-class tablet.

yeah and desktop would as fast as eurofighter

gumpty · Jul 4, 2011, 02:43 PM

I don't see the point in having a tablet capable of high-spec gaming. The screen is too small + no mouse. I see tablets being used for what most people spend 90% of their computer-time doing ... surfing the net and sending e-mails (and basic work tasks). They'll do their gaming on their high-powered PCs still, or consoles.

a_ump · Jul 4, 2011, 02:46 PM

Yea this looks really good by AMD. isn't 4.5watts or less great compared to most other products? especially in tablets.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 4, 2011, 02:53 PM

I was telling Seekypeet and Cadaveca about this. They said I was crazy........I AIN'T CRAZY!

TheLaughingMan · Jul 4, 2011, 03:35 PM

You is Crazy.

So basically they are combining:

silkstone · Jul 4, 2011, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I was telling Seekypeet and Cadaveca about this. They said I was crazy........I AIN'T CRAZY!

You mean you were right. As for the crazy part...... that remains to be seen!

R_1 · Jul 4, 2011, 03:38 PM

Considering that Apple A5 is roughly the same die size as Sandy Bridge i3, we already have desktop performance in iPad 2

TheLaughingMan · Jul 4, 2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_1

Considering that Apple A5 is roughly the same die size as Sandy Bridge i3, we already have desktop performance in iPad 2

Die size has little to do with that and the comparison is arbitrary.

The iPad 2's so called "Apple" A5 (its actually a ARM Cortex design) is not desktop power by todays standards. It has the desktop power of an average machine say 4 or 5 years ago. If that is the case, my cell phone has desktop performance.....from 12 years ago that is.

And none of these devices will come close to their own generations of desktop performance for a few more decades. Until then, we can hope they hit full sized laptop performance in next few years.

araditus · Jul 4, 2011, 04:14 PM

Happy Independance day everyone!!

p.s. if you live in the UK, please, dont be sad angry or jealous, becuase right about now I wish I was on the other side of the pond!

Stay safe everyone!

cadaveca · Jul 4, 2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I was telling Seekypeet and Cadaveca about this. They said I was crazy........I AIN'T CRAZY!

Actually, you told me, and my response was:

"So?"

Cool chips, haha, but you know, not something I am personally interested in.

jmcslob · Jul 4, 2011, 04:32 PM

It's this kind of stuff that really makes me wanna ride out my current desktop....
They are getting good enough and easy enough to carry around that I just can't see why I should sit at one anymore....

Sihastru · Jul 4, 2011, 04:41 PM

Compare the 4.5W TDP to Apple's A5 0.5W TDP.

Inventing a new metric called "App Power" won't fool tablet engineers/designers, it might work with gullible "fanbois", but not with actual engineers.

Good luck with that.

On the other hand, Intel might just get a snowball's chance in hell with their 3D transistor tech, but that remains to be seen.

TheLaughingMan · Jul 4, 2011, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Actually, you told me, and my response was:

"So?"

Cool chips, haha, but you know, not something I am personally interested in.

Siliconist. Hating a chip because it is a different color is wrong.

cadaveca · Jul 4, 2011, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

Siliconist. Hating a chip because it is a different color is wrong.

Indefinite indecision is worse.

I know what I like, and this ain't it.

But I don't wanna hate on it...I think AMD has the best mobile platform right now...just not my cup of tea.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 4, 2011, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Indefinite indecision is worse.

I know what I like, and this ain't it.

But I don't wanna hate on it...I think AMD has the best mobile platform right now...just not my cup of tea.

But thats the thing. It will be your cup of tea eventually whether you like it or not. Mobile platform is the way of the future. Desktops are the next ham radio.

Cadaveca in 10 years.

de.das.dude · Jul 4, 2011, 06:10 PM

wow. just 1W consumption. OMG OMG OMG OMG! :O :O :O

NC37 · Jul 4, 2011, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

You is Crazy.

So basically they are combining:

http://img.techpowerup.org/110704/hondo-original.jpg

John Wayne singing "Swinging on a Star"...I dunno, I can picture the "Bunny, Ball Ball" but not the "Swinging on a Star"

TheLaughingMan · Jul 4, 2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Indefinite indecision is worse.

I know what I like, and this ain't it.

But I don't wanna hate on it...I think AMD has the best mobile platform right now...just not my cup of tea.

This isn't something for me either, but I can appreciate the tech that goes into it as well.

On that note I am sick of AMD announcing their future plans to attack Intel in every market segment with better graphics and "hopefully" better CPU's in the near future. We all get it. The new IGP's on the APU's are the S#!t. Stop showing us what you want these to be and show us some real CPU improvement from the new architecture.

micropage7 · Jul 4, 2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

This isn't something for me either, but I can appreciate the tech that goes into it as well.

On that note I am sick of AMD announcing their future plans to attack Intel in every market segment with better graphics and "hopefully" better CPU's in the near future. We all get it. The new IGP's on the APU's are the S#!t. Stop showing us what you want these to be and show us some real CPU improvement from the new architecture.

coz amd needs publication so the market can aware or at least realize they still there.
intel doesnt desperate to get any publication coz everyone wait for them and so far best performers are from intel

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