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Old Jul 14, 2011, 04:41 PM   #26
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Here you go. it's looking good so far: http://img.techpowerup.org/110714/bta8763nhd.jpg
IT'S FAKE, AMD has MMX(+)

Thanks for that btarunr, had a laugh

I think this should wrap up all the results, and they aren't fake: http://img.techpowerup.org/110714/Untitled.jpg
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I'm calling fake on that one.
No way! It's AMD's sacred duty to send me free samples before anyone else, and without a shred of NDA to sign.
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Thats nice as I was only talking about the 6-core chips. And pretty much every review that included figures from the 980X. Which is a little unfair, but whatever. It beat it out in a few test, by a little. Everything else was often not even close. Granted the 2600K put a nice gap between it and everything else on the market, but the 980X hill is just monsterous.
The 2600k wins more than it loses all at stock, and it overclocks better to boot. Unless you exclusively use one of the programs that does better with 6 cores for some professional purpose, even a 6 core 1366 is a total waste. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=142
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Here you go. it's looking good so far: http://img.techpowerup.org/110714/bta8763nhd.jpg
That DEFINITELY looks like a post from OBR

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No way! It's AMD's sacred duty to send me free samples before anyone else, and without a shred of NDA to sign.
I'm actually surprised that none of the ES BD samples have hit Ebay like the ES Gulftown ones did.
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Very nice clocks speeds, though it means nothing if the chips aren't designed well. Still waiting for official word of performance from sites to come out. I have a feeling Sandy Bridge will still come out on top but Bulldozer will trail closely behind.

Still gonna keep my 1055T for a while though, i'd rather do a video card upgrade.
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That DEFINITELY looks like a post from OBR
Oh thank god more was revealed this time around:



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OBRovsky finally posted: http://obrovsky.blogspot.com/2011/07...ere-punkd.html

Any translations? I'm at work and can't access google translate.
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OBRovsky finally posted: http://obrovsky.blogspot.com/2011/07...ere-punkd.html

Any translations? I'm at work and can't access google translate.
Yields are Bad.. Release date is now October? : laugh:
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OBRovsky finally posted: http://obrovsky.blogspot.com/2011/07...ere-punkd.html

Any translations? I'm at work and can't access google translate.
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I quote: "With the Internet, finally appeared proper tests, truly functional sample of the new AMD processor."

After my earlier tests Stach condemned, says of those at the Turks, they are finally proper and real. Thanks Stachy for recognition, the Turks I had made me ...

I quote: "He who knows the real power of the new AMD processors, so he knows that no problem with power do not"

Because Stach knows the true power and still does not know that the problem with the power they have. IPC-stroke cycle with Phenomem decreased and overall performance is an absolute tragedy.

I quote: "However, AMD to prevent further spread of misinformation and rubbish (mainly by DDWORLD) and apparently by accident, got a fully functional sample magazine into the hands of trusted Donanimhaber"

This can only write immature individual who absolutely do not know how it goes in IT journalism. First, the sample is not in my hands of the Turks but, secondly, it is not a credible magazine .. And certainly would not provide them with AMD anything for publication ... just them.

I quote: "He probably got permission from AMD show some actual numbers, what really competitive against the new processor i7-2600 km, but also a Core i7-990X can"

Permission received from AMD, but the results got from me And now we come finally to the merits of the case - those real numbers. All of them are bad. Neither of the published results are not true and
authentic, and all I modified or acquired with massively přetaktovaným processor!

Facts about Bulldozer - Yield is tragic literally, worse than they first chips Fermi (Yields are only in percents).
Performance is Sandy Bridge processors with Hyper-Threading turned off! And'm not kidding! Processor Core i7-2600 km is about ten percent on average, more powerful ... (FX-8150 with the competitor for i5-2500K).

IPC-stroke cycle with Phenom II decreased (YES, IPC Decreased!) Performance in single-thread and efficiency is very sad ... (Single thread performance is tragic ..)

Consumption is as high as Core i7-990X in the load, but performance-Bulldozer lose tens of percent. (Power consumption is + / - and Core i7-990X But performance + / - and CI5-2500K).

Launch date is October ... Prices are very low, FX-8150 +/- cheapest then Core i5-2500. Price is mirroring performance ...
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Ouch Amd if that's accurate.

No wonder Intel pushed back IB and SB-E 3 months. It knew.....
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Man, reading OBR on AMD is like trying to get nVidia news from Charlie D.
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Ouch Amd if that's accurate.

No wonder Intel pushed back IB and SB-E 3 months. It knew.....
What a bunch of crap, october is q4 not q3. so its totally discreditable right there.
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What a bunch of crap, october is q4 not q3. so its totally discreditable right there.
These chips were supposed to be out in June.. Now October. What an absolute mess.
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Why does everyone assume BD os going to be dirt cheap?

Top 8 Core BD - 330 dollars
Top 6 Core BD - 230 dollars

Thuban and denab were so cheap because they were shit compared to Bloomfield.
Because it IS
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Looking more and more everyday that the 8 Core BD is going to be 220 dollars. Hell i'll buy one for that price.
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These chips were supposed to be out in June.. Now October. What an absolute mess.
Yes, we need to get the UN involved. NATO too. Nothing cleans up a mess better than a nice task force. I just hope Intel just buys out AMD so we have one superior CPU. The New World Order of CPU's cometh. This is very important.
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Yes, we need to get the UN involved. NATO too. Nothing cleans up a mess better than a nice task force. I just hope Intel just buys out AMD so we have one superior CPU. The New World Order of CPU's cometh. This is very important.
E,

Could you imagine how amazing BD would be with Intel's engineering prowess?
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Yes, we need to get the UN involved. NATO too. Nothing cleans up a mess better than a nice task force. I just hope Intel just buys out AMD so we have one superior CPU. The New World Order of CPU's cometh. This is very important.
I've been spending too much time on Google+, I was looking for the +1 button ...

Seriously, though. I have doubts as to the accuracy of OBR's statements. I could see Oct for volume to appear, but I'd still be money on an actual release and benchies in August.

Ugh. Too much weird stuff going on with this launch.
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E,

Could you imagine how amazing BD would be with Intel's engineering prowess?
Yeah, it wold be totally awesome. I can't wait until Intel has zero competition again. I loved paying a lot of money for horrible performance back in the day. God, that was awesome.
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Yeah, it wold be totally awesome. I can't wait until Intel has zero competition again. I loved paying a lot of money for horrible performance back in the day. God, that was awesome.
In this economy i don't see intel raising prices to the old ways ever again.
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OBR is full of shit, that's all I can say.

IPC decreased? JF-AMD said that IPC is higher compared to Phenom II
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OBR is full of shit, that's all I can say.

IPC decreased? JF-AMD said that IPC is higher compared to Phenom II
JF works for Amd. Do you really want to take every statement from him as absolute truth?
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JF works for Amd. Do you really want to take every statement from him as absolute truth?
Would you rather want me to take OBR's statements as truth?
I don't see any reason why JF-AMD would lie about anything.
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Would you rather want me to take OBR's statements as truth?
I don't see any reason why JF-AMD would lie about anything.
You can gladly form your own opinions based on whatever you choose to believe.

For myself tho.. Amd has been working on this processor for 2 years now and they still continue to delay and have issues getting it out. That's a major red flag to me. I'd love BD to succeed but it's just not looking like it's going to happen.
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This is a leaked internal road map after the Llano switch was announced, internally
Notice that little small space between each CPU that is a month
Llano June Launch with a June-July Release
Zambezi July Launch with a July-August Release
Server August Launch with a August-September Release

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You can gladly form your own opinions based on whatever you choose to believe.

For myself tho.. Amd has been working on this processor for 2 years now and they still continue to delay and have issues getting it out. That's a major red flag to me. I'd love BD to succeed but it's just not looking like it's going to happen.
It wasn't delayed because of issues

45nm HKMG was no longer a viable fabrication process so they had to rewrite everything for 32nm HKMG and that took up to 1 year

Bulldozer taped out last year same time July 2010
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